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... I've refrained so far from getting into this burgeoning discussion thread
... just 2 humble pleas though:
1. It is different in different countries. In England there are cycleways ...
typically part of long-distance non-urban routes that have been created either
primarily for cyclists or a
.. And,
as it is a default, public footpaths do not normally have any signage to
indicate 'no cycling' ... I'm not making any recommendation here about
tagging ... Just saying that geographical differences do exist and it may be
useful for any tagging system to allow for this ...
Mike
Mike Harris
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From: tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org
[mailto:tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Steve Bennett
Sent: 21 December 2009 06:21
To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools
Subject: Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] tagging Greenways
Quesion is: is there
Mike Harris
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> [mailto:tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Paul Johnson
> Sent: 20 December 2009 22:31
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ed in a different
country ... Do mailboxes there carry any reference that could be used
instead of an address. If the local system is to use a street address as the
official mailbox reference I could see a case for using this as ref=* for
the mailbox and leaving the address tag for the building.
Any help
Mike Harris
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> [mailto:tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Greg Troxel
> Sent: 18 December 2009 13:48
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Mike Harris didn't write that - though I did read it!
Mike Harris
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> Sent: 17 December 2009 01:31
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Mike Harris
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> [mailto:tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Craig Wallace
> Sent: 14 December 2009 18:39
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> Subject: Re: [Tagging] Tagging highway=cycleway w
Mike Harris
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> [mailto:tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Anthony
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> Subject: Re: [Tagging] Tagging highwa
Mike Harris
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Mike Harris
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Mike Harris
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Mike Harris
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Roy Wallace says ...
Mike Harris
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> [mailto:tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Roy Wallace
> Sent: 11 December 2009 07:45
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Thanks for the gentle reminder ... I did make a couple of small
contributions when it first appeared and had then been away in sunnier
climes and had forgotten about it ... Mea maxima culpa ... I'll put on my
thinking cap and revisit as and when time permits.
Mike Harris
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[mailto:tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of James Livingston
Sent: 10 December 2009 11:01
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Subject: Re: [Tagging] bicycle=no
On 09/12/2009, at 3:30 AM, Mike Harris wrote:
Personally
Mike Harris
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> Sent: 10 December 2009 05:50
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... not quite ... I now that page and have studied it well ... But try
comparing that page with some of the others I cited in my previous long
e-mail ... That's the dilemma that I don't think I'm alone in facing ...
Mike Harris
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... is this even correct? subtags off access=* or values for highway=* ?
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[mailto:tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Steve Bennett
Sent: 09 December 2009 03:34
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Subject: Re: [Tagging] bicy
... That seems entirely sane ... Imho the most important thing is to map
what's there on the ground ... If wonks like me want to add further
information that they happen have available then that's fine too - but we're
all volunteers!
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nce my question ...
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> Sent: 08 December 2009 21:55
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> Subject: Re: [Tagging] bicycle=no
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> On W
Message-
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> [mailto:tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Anthony
> Sent: 08 December 2009 18:10
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> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Mik
the legal status (with acknowledgment to Richard Mann, who has usefully
just added the concept of 'local name' for the value of the tag to the concept
of using the 'designation' tag.
Mike Harris
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... On the last point - could we even deprecate designated= - I find it
confusing and redundant and always use designation = (see wiki pages) - but
maybe this is wrong?
Mike Harris
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> [mailto:tag
usage?
Mike Harris
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[mailto:tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Richard Mann
Sent: 08 December 2009 09:57
To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools
Subject: Re: [Tagging] bicycle=no
Are we edging towards:
bicycle=yes|no|pr
Almost every single one in England and Wales - clearly defined, in the public
domain and of great use to some of us to have the information in the database.
Mike Harris
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I wouldn't try to argue whether legal status is a more or less important
attribute than any other. However, where known, it is a useful piece of
information. In countries that do not have 'right to roam' and where it is
therefore illegal (at least a trespass) to walk on a path across private
land u
the rest of the tagging.
This list and elsewhere there is of course an enormous ongoing debate on the
uses and misuses of highway=path vs. all the other values for highway= ...
But life is too short!
Mike Harris
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> [m
highway=path so far as possible and give preference to
highway=footway / cycleway / track etc. unless the path on the ground was an
ill-defined informal track with unknown (or no) legal status. This provides
more information.
Mike Harris
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+1
Mike Harris
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> [mailto:tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Dave F.
> Sent: 07 December 2009 13:07
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> Subject: Re: [Tagging] bicycle=no
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n significantly churn up a soft surface. Whereas wheeling (or carrying) a
bike is unlikely to significantly inconvenience pedestrians nor to do any
harm to the path.
2. Perhaps horse=no should mean that you cannot ride or lead a horse - but
you can carry it (like a bike)? (;>)
Mike Harris
>
#x27; + 'foot=yes' it would be
reasonable to assume a default that the cyclist could wheel / carry the
bike.
I agree that horses are different - walking a horse is usually not allowed
where riding a horse is not allowed (for protection of the surface) and
carrying the horse is relatively unco
+1 for UK too.
Mike Harris
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> [mailto:tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of John Smith
> Sent: 02 December 2009 21:47
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> Subject: Re: [Tagging] bi
Good advice ... +1!
Mike Harris
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> From: Richard Weait [mailto:rich...@weait.com]
> Sent: 28 November 2009 19:43
> To: Steve Bennett
> Cc: t...@openstreetmap.org; tagging@openstreetmap.org
> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Path vs footway vs cycleway vs..
+1
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> [mailto:tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Randy
> Sent: 28 October 2009 21:04
> To: tagging@openstreetmap.org
> Subject: [Tagging] Highway property proposal "covered=yes"
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> I have run into several situat
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