On Tue, 13 Jan 2004, Chris Santerre yowled:
> "But what about PGP sigs?"
> Taken care of!
>
> "But what about Embedded images?"
> Taken care of!
>
> "But what about forwarded emails?"
> Taken care of!
>
> "But what about certain yahoo groups?"
> Guess? Taken care of!
"But what about sourc
On Wed, 14 Jan 2004, Bob Apthorpe moaned:
> ISPs don't need to charge customers for the privilege of unfiltered
> outbound port 25 access; all I ask is that they tell customers it's
> blocked and require them to specifically ask for it to be unblocked rather
> than give it to them unblocked by defa
OK. I've been testing spamassassin from CVS, and I've been getting the
bizarre error message that Craig reports, the `Cannot open: File exists'
one. However, in my case this can't be blamed on `a stupid RedHat
configuration error', because I'm not running RedHat (or any
distribution).
Looking at
On 26 Feb 2002, Craig Hughes moaned:
> FYI, your code example is not even close to concurrency-safe. If one
Oh, it's an astonishing kludge written in haste and isn't meant to be
right.
What's more, it doesn't help :(
Further testing indicates that it's the previous state of the db that's
at fa
On Fri, 1 Mar 2002, Matthew Cline muttered drunkenly:
> Does "spamassasin -r" strip all the spam reporting stuff from the message
> before it's sent to Razor? Or is it merely a wrapper around "razor-report"?
> I'd like to use it to report spam that doesn't go above the auto-report
> thershhol
You may recall I reported a weird `File exists' bug with libdb/DB_File
hitting autowhitelists. I've fixed it.
It's not a spamassassin or Perl problem; it's a libdb problem.
It seems that libdb internal symbols in libdb2 and libdb3 conflict, even
though the names do not and the libdb docs say you
he rest in a
mailbox that's read more often.
,
| # SpamAssassin, assassinate!
| :0 fw
| | spamc
|
| # Razor pit, this is certain spam, regardless of what SpamAssassin said
| # (we run SpamAssassin over it just to see what it says)
| :0 H
| * ^To: .*nix-razor-pit$
| {
| :0 Hc
| | spamassass
On 02 Apr 2002, Ken Causey muttered drunkenly:
> I'm wondering what reporting spamassassin -r actually does. I realize
> that it reports to the razor database. I'm wondering what else.
Nothing else, at present.
>whether or not it attempts to detect
> relayin
On Sat, 20 Apr 2002, Bart Schaefer said:
>On a guess, I'd say that
> it all comes back to the GPL's use of "work" as a noun without defining
> it. "The work" of a program could be construed to include its algorithms.
IANAL, but `the work' in copyri
On Sat, 20 Apr 2002, Craig R. Hughes muttered drunkenly:
> Bart Schaefer wrote:
>
> BS> On Fri, 19 Apr 2002, Craig R Hughes wrote:
> BS>
> BS> > Bart Schaefer wrote:
> BS> >
> BS> > BS> Right; the GPL doesn't require you to expose to any third party any
> BS> > BS> changes that you make; it just
On Sat, 20 Apr 2002, Craig R. Hughes muttered drunkenly:
> Nix wrote:
> N> Bear in mind that you can license different bits of a program
> N> differently; for instance, you could license the EvalTests.pm under a
> N> dual license permitting free modification and redistributio
On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, Lars Hansson mused:
> On Wed, 24 Apr 2002 10:44:31 +0100
> "Matt Sergeant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Also, I cannot stress enough: Use a caching nameserver!
>
> I presume you mean use a caching nameserver on the machine running spamd.
> Most setups will already have a
On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Thomas Egrelius said:
> it "hangs" on trying to open the auto-whitelist db, and after the default
> 30 tries it gives up with the message "Cannot open
> ~/.spamassassin/auto-whitelist: permission denied" or similar. I've tried
> to set permissions of files and directories w
On Wed, 15 May 2002, Michael Stenner said:
> Genetic Algorithm. Clever method for optimizing complicated
> mathematical systems.
Or, rather, for searching large and irregularly defined spaces (spaces
that are too large or too complicated to search systematically).
--
`There are not words enoug
On Wed, 15 May 2002, Craig R. Hughes mused:
> Nix wrote:
>
> N> On Wed, 15 May 2002, Michael Stenner said:
> N> > Genetic Algorithm. Clever method for optimizing complicated
> N> > mathematical systems.
> N>
> N> Or, rather, for searching large and ir
On Thu, 07 Aug 2003, Harley Peters uttered the following:
> Nix wrote:
>> On Mon, 04 Aug 2003, Harley Peters spake:
>>
>>>The default setup of DCC is to report all mail (automaticaly) to the DCC servers.
>>>You have to whitelist any mailing list that you receive
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003, Muhannad Tamemi spake:
>
> Thanks for answering .
> again please i need to be sure of sendmail version , i have sendmail 8.9.3 , does it
> work ??!!
As long as you apply the appropriate patches to fix the multiple severe
security holes known in this version, yes, it does.
(
On Sat, 25 Oct 2003, Justin Mason said:
> I have seen addresses munged as follows (perl code to illustrate):
>
> s/nospam//i;
> s/spam//i;
> tr/A-Z/a-z/;
A lot of spamware gets confused by email addresses containing $ signs;
I've used that as a Usenet reply-to for years, and I s
On Sat, 24 May 2003, Ross Vandegrift said:
> On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 11:18:51AM -0400, Chris Woodfield wrote:
>> Just got this error from sa-learn...
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sa-learn --spam --mbox ~/mail/spam-caught
>> Cannot open bayes_path /home/rekoil/.spamassassin/bayes R/O: Inappropriate
On Fri, 06 Jun 2003, Kai Schaetzl uttered the following:
> Jonathan Vanasco wrote on Fri, 6 Jun 2003 11:21:43 -0400:
>
>> what about the random stuff?
>
> I think this is specifically included for confusing Bayes.
No, spams with piles of ordinary email pasted onto the bottom are for
that. The ra
On Fri, 27 Jun 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered the following:
> The default location for SpamAssassin local rules on my FreeBSD boxes
> appears to be /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf.
It's /etc/mail/spamassassin/*
i.e., everything in that directory is processed, in lexicographical sort
order.
l
On Sat, 5 Jul 2003, Balam Willemsen said:
> The online database of spammers' tactics
An odd way to describe bugzilla.
(well, it said *online*, and that's the only thing I can think of that
fits that description. ;} )
\end{pedant}
--
`It is an unfortunate coinc
On Tue, 08 Jul 2003, Tony Earnshaw muttered drunkenly:
> I've no experience with IMAPAssassin, but spamd runs as a parent
> spawning children on demand - as does amavisd-new. Active spamd
> processes typically consume up to 22-25 MB each on my RH 7.2/Perl
> 5.6.1 Linux m/c and non-active 16-17 MB.
On Tue, 08 Jul 2003, Kelson Vibber mused:
> Simon Byrnand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>I wonder if anyone has any stats or anecdotal evidence on the relative
>>effectiveness of Razor2, DCC, and Pyzor ?
>
> I don't have any stats, just anecdotal evidence. I've found Pyzor to be effective,
> somet
On 10 Jul 2003, Yorkshire Dave said:
> HX-Envelope-From: $g
> HX-Envelope-To: $u
This adds the header even to mail that's being relayed on and not
locally delivered.
If you don't want that, something like
H?l?X-Envelope-Sender: $g
will do the trick.
--
`We cannot get a new line down the pipe
On Wed, 9 Jul 2003, Jeff Capeci spake:
[stuff]
Interesting. The headers of this mail included:
X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE version=2.55
X-Spam-Level: *
X-Spam-Report: This mail is probably spam. The original message has been attached
along with this
On Tue, 15 Jul 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered the
following:
> spamassassin -r reports to razor/pyzor and bayes
razor, pyzor, dcc, and bayes.
> sa-learn only does bayes?
>
> what would be best for reporting a maildir of spam?
>
> spamassassin -r each file?
>
> or sa-learn the directory and th
On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] muttered drunkenly:
> but by doing sa-learn, one has the option to skip rebuilding the bayes
> database after the scan -- which has significantly reduced my
> execution time and resources used
>
> spamassassin -r doesn't seem to do that
spamassassin -r alway
On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, Kelson Vibber yowled:
> Nix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>You'd have to run the files through spamassassin -d before passing them
>>to razor, and sa-learn also has to do that, so spamassassin -r is faster
>>(you're only doing the equivalen
On Sun, 20 Jul 2003, Simon Lyall uttered the following:
> 2. I was getting the odd corruption of the DB (which causes all sorts of
>problems).
There was a nasty Linux NFS client bug between 2.4.20pre3 and 2.4.21
which could have caused symptoms like this; other symptoms would have
been spuriou
On Sun, 20 Jul 2003, Daniel Carrera muttered drunkenly:
> Hello,
>
> I'm trying to figure out how to use 'sa-learn' to train SA's spam filter.
> I have already looked at the man page.
>
> I am not entirely sure what kind of input is acceptable to sa-learn.
>
> On teaching ham:
> ==
isclassified ham, but
that's so rare for me that I can't remember the last time I had to do
it).
Everything else gets handled by a triplet of cron jobs:
# Delete spam from my spam database and Bayes classifier that's more than six months
old.
# (Such spam is of little use anywhere.)
On Tue, 22 Jul 2003, John McGivern stated:
> I did the \ in front of the @ and the . and that works great. So a \
> goes in front of any symbol that means something in regex to negate it
> and treat it like a character.
It's called `escaping' (negation is something quite different in
regexps), bu
On Tue, 22 Jul 2003, Daniel Carrera stipulated:
> Hi all,
>
> Does anyone have a pool of spam they can lend me? ;)
>
> I'm trying to teach SA's Bayesian filer. I have no shortage of ham to
> give it. I brought the ham pool almost to 500 messages just today. But I
> only have 60 spams to gi
On Thu, 24 Jul 2003, alan premselaar said:
> however, blocking entire IP classes such as 61.*.*.* is, in my opinion, a
> very narrow minded thing to do. keep in mind that the internet is a global
> entity, and by blocking that particular IP class, you'll have blocked me
> from being able to reply
On Wed, 23 Jul 2003, Daniel Carrera stipulated:
> On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 12:00:13AM +0100, Nix wrote:
>
>> Spam actually seems to differ quite a lot between individuals,
>
> Really? Why would that be the case?
I think it depends which spammers' mailing lists you
On Wed, 6 Aug 2003, Chris Blaise spake:
> Wait a minute, I don't think that's true. By default DCC is a
> client only and you can poll any of the publically available servers.
> I'm pretty sure you need to get permission from another DCC to actually
> submit data.
Well, I'm submitting to dc
On Tue, 5 Aug 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered the following:
>>> It looks like orbs.dorkslayers.com is, sadly, offline once again. If
>>> there are any active queries against it perhaps they should be
>>> removed to streamline the tests. Here is some information I was
>>> able to find on it.
>>
On Wed, 6 Aug 2003, Daniel Carrera yowled:
> On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 09:10:36PM +0300, Harri Pesonen wrote:
>>
>>This has probably been asked a zillion times, but why so low scores?
>
> I think that it's just to pick safe defaults. Bayes is only reliable
> after it's been well-trained.
The
On Mon, 04 Aug 2003, Harley Peters spake:
> The default setup of DCC is to report all mail (automaticaly) to the DCC servers.
> You have to whitelist any mailing list that you receive in order to prevent them
> from being reported.
... and it's kind of hard to see why you'd want to do that. After
On Thu, 7 Aug 2003, William Nichols stated:
> unable to open ./SPAM/Restoring Creditworthiness to Power Companies :
> at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0/Mail/SpamAssassin/ArchiveIterator.pm
> line 331.
> unable to open Sept. 22-23 NY NY.eml: at
> /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0/Mail/SpamAssassin/Arc
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003, Justin Mason said:
> Folks --
>
> just to add to this thread of absurd spam filtering.
>
> Without naming names -- if you're going to mail me directly, and you're
> blocking all mail from .ie using one of those country code blacklists,
*boggle* *boggle* *boggle*
WHY?!
>
On Tue, 5 Aug 2003, Ian Douglas mused:
>> This can be quickly pulled from a whois lookup.
>
> There's always the catch that the standard 'whois' lookup will only look for
> .com, .net and .edu domains. If you get a 2-letter domain like .us or .ca or
> .it, etc., you need to use a specialized whois
On Thu, 7 Aug 2003, Daniel Carrera muttered drunkenly:
> I just got a spam. This is from the header:
>
> X-Spam-Status: Yes, hits=5.4 required=5.0
> tests=ALL_CONSONANTS,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTTP_USERNAME_USED,
> MY_PURCHASE,MY_VIRUS,MY_VIRUS_1,MY_VIRUS_2,MY_VIRUS_3,
>
On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, Helen Best said:
> Spamassassin will now run the Makefile, the Make and the Make install but
> fails with the Make test.
>
> Can anyone help me with the problems please
Sure, if you say what the symptoms are.
Providing the output from the `make test' is vastly more useful t
On Fri, 5 Jul 2002, Bob Proulx stated:
> The three bug lists for fileutils, shellutils, textutils became so bad
> that the maintainer decided to moderate them. Now those are low spam
> noise primarily because each message is scanned by a human (either Jim
> or myself) and out of every 15 or 20 sp
On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Bob Proulx mused:
[Hormel SPAM]
> their trademark. It is their revenue source. What would you do in
> their place?
Um, I hate to point this out, but Hormel's revenue source is a physical
product, not a trademark.
(sheesh, IP madness)
--
`There's something satisfying about
On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, Matthew Cline yowled:
> On Friday 12 July 2002 10:51 pm, mark wrote:
>> The SpamAssassin help file lists some information about installing
>> dccproc for spam testing.
>> Is there a way to tell if and how well the dcc tests are working?
>
> Add "dcc_add_header 1" to your user
On Sat, 5 Oct 2002, Robin Lynn Frank uttered the following:
> I was going to try pyzor with SA, but the install bombs. Anyone know what I
> did wrong? (Or do I have to subscribe to yet another list?)
>
> # python setup.py build
> Traceback (most recent call last):
> File "setup.py", line 5,
On Sun, 6 Oct 2002, Robin Lynn Frank stipulated:
> AARRGGHH! Guess I'll have to see what disasters I can create upgrading
> python ;-(
Indeed:
,[ Misc/NEWS for Python 2.2.1 ]
| Core and builtins
|
| - Added new builtin function bool() and new builtin constants True and
| False to ease b
On Mon, 7 Oct 2002, Dan Smart said:
> ImportError: No module named distutils.core
>
> I've loaded a current copy of python 2 (Python 1 is still loaded)
>
> [root@lewis pyzor-0.4.0]# rpm -q python2
> python2-2.2.1-1
> [root@lewis pyzor-0.4.0]# rpm -q python2-tools
> python2-tools-2.2.1-1
> [root@
On 09 Oct 2002, Mark Lowes mused:
> Random pondering, just how robust is the checking of the files in
> $HOME/.spamassassin/, ie how does SA deal with problem lines (ignore
> them or flag an error?)
It prints an error out (see the failed_line: label in
lib/Mail/SpamAssassin/Conf.pm), and increme
On Fri, 25 Oct 2002, Scott Lambert said:
> Run with what you have and disable to CPU intensive checks as needed to
> allow the box to handle the load. I'm thinking of RAZOR and DCC.
That's odd, because Razor / DCC / Pyzor are much *less* CPU-intensive
than all the regex tests and many of the eval
On Fri, 18 Oct 2002, Martin Radford stipulated:
> I'm pretty sure it's their own custom MTA. The SMTP connection banner
> is:
It used to be a distorted MMDF variant, I think, but that may have
changed in the last couple of years.
--
`It's hard to properly dramatize, say, the domestic effects o
On 19 Oct 2002, Lars Hansson moaned:
> On Sat, 2002-10-19 at 01:22, Matt Kettler wrote:
>> if it's 2.43, the AWL tracks both the from address AND the orginating IP.
>
> Uh, I do hope it's the IP that actually delivered the mesage to you that
> is being tracked and not the originating one?
I hope
On Sun, 29 Dec 2002, Mike Saunders said:
> Every time you load spamassassin you have to load the entire perl
> interpreter and it's environment. It has to scan it's library pathis (I
> believe...) and you may have more in place now. That takes time. Plus
> you're running a lot of other processes
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003, Rajdeep Larha stipulated:
> Hi Jennifer,
> I read your mail. But this is something little above it. There are certain
> words in 20_porn.cf. When I use only those words even then the rating given
> is too low. I used 5 words from the list in same case.. even then the mail
> was
On Mon, 24 Nov 2003, Evan Platt said:
> A mechanic of 2 seater Cessna's wouldn't be repairing a 747 or DC-10. A
> helicopter pilot wouldn't fly a DC-10. Why would anything but a experienced
> Linux System Administrator be administrating a linux System?
Because you have to *learn* to be a system ad
On Mon, 24 Nov 2003, Chris Santerre stated:
> The FP rate for all of these is just about zero.
Has anyone run these on a large corpus to see how it goes?
(I've seen no mass-check-style output for these rules.)
--
`Me, I want exploding spaceships and pulverized worlds and clashes of
billion-yea
On 12 Dec 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] moaned:
> On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 09:10:29 -0500, Adam Denenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> posted to spamassassin-talk:
> > What i want to start is a Bayes Corpus Project. I would like to be
> > able to allow people to submit confirmed ham and/or spam to a large
> > b
On Fri, 12 Dec 2003, Matthew van Eerde said:
>> >I'm just curious. I've NEVER seen Yahoo! tagged bulk email
>> with SA tags.
>>
>> Odds are the open relay that the spammers sent the mail
>> through was running SA.
>>
>> Yes, you'd think anyone using SA would check for open relay,
>> but it do
On 15 Dec 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] mused:
> On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 22:45:00 +0000, Nix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted to
> spamassassin-talk:
> > (If you're paranoid, you could make sure that you don't have
> > confidential single tokens in there: bank account number
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen muttered drunkenly:
> If I run sa-learn while SpamAssassin is checking mail, I get messages
> like the following from the spam-checking process:
>
> Cannot open bayes databases /var/list/.spamassassin/bayes_* R/W: lock failed: File
> exists
>
> (This
On Sun, 28 Dec 2003, Bob Proulx stated:
>> My publication is double-opted in by 15,000 families with children with
>> autism.
... but not by mine, nor will it be. I prefer to read newsletters
written by people who reasearch before they sound off.
> Statements such as that during an introduction o
On Tue, 6 Jan 2004, Chris Santerre stipulated:
> "Like sands thru the hourglass, so are the spams of our lives."
To quote John M. Ford's _Eventful History: Version 1.x_:
`It's existential crisis time for the machines. Is this all we were made
for? they begin to ask. Mips are real and bitrate earn
On Thu, 8 Jan 2004, Robert Menschel uttered the following:
> Yes, there are three reasons you might not want to use bigevil.
>
> 1) You like getting spam.
>
> 2) You run SA with a threshold level very different from the default 5.0
> score, and don't have the time or ability to adjust the bigevil
On Fri, 9 Jan 2004, Gary Funck stipulated:
> Here's an idea that I've been considering for a while: have SA change its
> scoring strategy to use a Neural Net, instead of using the strictly additive
> scoring. SA would still use its custom rules to detect spam markers, but it
> would let the NN do t
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