RE: [SAtalk] spam report in headers

2003-12-04 Thread Fritz Mesedilla
I guess you're right Ryan... " Does SpamAssassin observe settings in its configuration file local.cf? This is related to the previous item. SA does observe all settings in its configuration file, but not all of them have effect, as amavisd-new does its own decisions based on spam score (hits)

[SAtalk] nilsimsa test suite

2003-12-04 Thread kula Yu
Hi There,   I am interested in testing nilsimsa codes. I need a test suite that has a list of messages known to be  "essentially same" so that I can understand how accurate nilsimsa is.   Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.   Best Regards, - Kula Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity

[SAtalk] HTML rules...

2003-12-04 Thread SqM
Hi! A question about HTML spam.. Is there in SA a rule that checks for HTML tags that does not exist and if the number of nonexistent HTML tags is high assigns a high score? Even then if there is "unknown" tags in a mail one can say that we should not see more than 1-2 new unknown tags. /SqM

Re: [SAtalk] Custom Rules

2003-12-04 Thread David B Funk
On Wed, 3 Dec 2003, Fred I-IS.COM wrote: > Just a minor correction, > > try this: > > header__BLOCKTOFFICEOUTTo =~ /[EMAIL PROTECTED]/i > header__BLOCKFOFFICEOUTFrom =~ /[EMAIL PROTECTED]/i > metaBLOCK_MY_OFFICE(__BLOCKTOFFICEOUT && !__BLOCKFOFFICEOUT) > describeBLOCK

[SAtalk] disable RCVD_IN_SORBS_xxx feature

2003-12-04 Thread stephane ancelot
Hi, I have got some mails that are considered as spam because of follwoing scores and I would know how to disable this ? 1.1 RCVD_IN_SORBS_HTTP RBL: SORBS: sender is open HTTP proxy server [81.255.26.81 listed in dnsbl.sorbs.net] 1.1 RCVD_IN_SORBS_MISC RBL: S

[SAtalk] Spam received with a return path of

2003-12-04 Thread Clive Dove
OK, now what do we do about this. The following spam came to me after having been passed by mailfilter and spamassassin, It was correctly passed as I had set a Mailfilter ALLOW rule and a Spamassassin whitelist entry for Mailfilter-dev messages. If I run this one through the spamassassin sa-l

RE: [SAtalk] BIG HUGE EVIL RULE NEWS!!!!

2003-12-04 Thread Colin A. Bartlett
Chris Santerre Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 3:49 PM > Done and Done and Will do :) > > Yes I even put the time. No need to update if you have 1.57, as these were > just info changes. I'm sure 1.58 could be lurking just around the corner. > I'm just waiting for the next "Matt" email to come i

RE: [SAtalk] BIG HUGE EVIL RULE NEWS!!!!

2003-12-04 Thread Colin A. Bartlett
Bill Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 7:55 AM > > What if we were to setup some kind of automatic update script > > that would wget the latest version of the file every evening? > > That way we would all be up to date all the time. To that > > end, we could even setup a little web-based app where

RE: [SAtalk] BIG HUGE EVIL RULE NEWS!!!!

2003-12-04 Thread Bill
> What if we were to setup some kind of automatic update script > that would wget the latest version of the file every evening? > That way we would all be up to date all the time. To that > end, we could even setup a little web-based app whereby a > coalition of we vigilantes could add spammy

[SAtalk] [Subject] Not rewrited when identified as spam

2003-12-04 Thread Tanen
Hello, I(m using Spamassassin 2.60, it's working fine, but, i don't know why, when a mail is identified as spam, the subject of this mail, isn"t rewrited, as specified on the local.cf. See after my local.cf : --- required_hits 1.0 subject_tag SPAM DANS CE MAIL rewrite_subject

Re: [SAtalk] BIG HUGE EVIL RULE NEWS!!!!

2003-12-04 Thread Martin Lyberg
2003-12-02 kl. 21.56 skrev Chris Santerre: BIG HUGE NEWS A major breakthrough has taken place ALL EVILRULES FILES HAVE BEEN COMBINED!! 2622 domains into 178 rules!!! Ramdon/tracking hosts tags removed! They only increase spamd memory by 1 meg!!! 1 meg! You read correctly! Every ev

RE: [SAtalk] HTML rules...

2003-12-04 Thread Mike Kuentz (2)
yes and no. There is a rule that hits on weird tags if the mailer is outlook. It's called FORGED_OUTLOOK_TAGS. Chris has some misc. rules on his site to catch that. You should check it out. It's at http://www.merchantsoverseas.com/wwwroot/gorilla/sa_rules.htm Popcorn is one rule set that will

RE: [SAtalk] BIG HUGE EVIL RULE NEWS!!!!

2003-12-04 Thread Rubin Bennett
These rules freakin' rock! I just tested them against my corpus of mail that SA didn't catch before (which is pretty effective at 90-97% catch rate: SA 2.6 with a well trained Bayes DB) and it caught 90 out of 108! Nice work! Thanks very much for your hard work! Rubin On Thu, 2003-12-04 at 07:5

RE: [SAtalk] (no subject)

2003-12-04 Thread Stenglein, James C
>>I just got this virus message that appears to have come from sourceforge. >>Did anyone else get this or did my antivirus FP on me? >FP.. that exact message passed through my copy of clamscan just fine.. >clamav is updated hourly here. We had it hit as a virus also... James -

[SAtalk] Long spam times

2003-12-04 Thread rich-lists
We just set up a new mail server running RedHat 9, SpamAssassin 2.60 and using site-wide configuration. Ther server is an IBM X335 (Xeon 2.6, RAID 1, 512 MB RAM). The server is running very well and catching a lot of spam. This server only processes 4-6000 messages a day. My problem is that when SA

[SAtalk] Spam Statistics

2003-12-04 Thread Rubin Bennett
WEhat are you all seeing for spam vs. ham stats out there? I just ran my list statistics script and here's what I'm experiencing (much WORSE than the current "accepted" statistics of about 50/50): Stats since the 1st of the month (that's right, 4 days only!!!) Total messages: 50467 Clean Messages

[SAtalk] Returns 0/0 instead of score...

2003-12-04 Thread James
Ok, I have run in some more spam/ham messages, ran sa-learn --rebuild now when I run spamc -c mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 2:57 PM To: Spamassassin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Subject: RE: [SAtalk] Config File Location Thanks Frederic for the quick response... When I ra

[SAtalk] [RD] Possible rule for mimail.m

2003-12-04 Thread Yackley, Matt
Morning everyone, Thought I would throw this together to try and catch the latest mimail variant that uses a password protected zip file that can bypass AV engines. header _YM_HS_MIMAIL_M Subject =~ /Re\[3\]/ body _YM_B_MIMAIL_M /I was shocked, when I found out that it wasn't you/i meta

RE: [SAtalk] BIG HUGE EVIL RULE NEWS!!!!

2003-12-04 Thread Jennifer Wheeler
Helleau all > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:spamassassin- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mikea > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 8:14 PM > To: 'SA List' > Subject: Re: [SAtalk] BIG HUGE EVIL RULE NEWS > > On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 07:17:28PM -0500, Rick Macdo

RE: [SAtalk] Long spam times

2003-12-04 Thread rich-lists
OK, after running spamd -D I see this in the output. Is this a DNS issue on my part or something not configured correctly. DNS is working correctly in other parts of the tests, but seems the RBL's are timing out. debug: RBL: success for 9 of 19 queries debug: RBL: timeout for rfci after 12 seconds

[SAtalk] RE: big evil edits

2003-12-04 Thread Chris Santerre
LOL, thanks! I just read this email. Dave had done this for me this morning. Nice find, all fixed in 1.57a. Thank goodness I never have to do an update this large again! :) --Chris > -Original Message- > From: Anthony McCarthy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003

Re: [SAtalk] Long spam times

2003-12-04 Thread Adam Denenberg
check your network tests and see if one of them is failing. Running spamd -D should tell you if an RBL timed out or not. The default RBL timeout is 15 seconds i believe so that could be a culprit. adam On Thu, 2003-12-04 at 09:25, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > We just set up a new mail server runn

RE: [SAtalk] BIG HUGE EVIL RULE NEWS!!!!

2003-12-04 Thread Smart,Dan
Not to get nitpicky, but could you add a one line comment of what was patched in the release, and retain old ones for history? I just downloaded 1.57a and it would be helpful to know what was fixed. Nothing detailed...like: ... Example # Dec 4, 03 9:35 AM EST ## 1.57a - Typo fixed in BigE

RE: [SAtalk] Long spam times

2003-12-04 Thread Pete Henshall
Hi there Try disabling bayes (bayes 0 in local.cf) - since upgrading to 2.60 we haven't been able to use bayes as the whole box just gets bogged down and some spamd processes just sit there with no spamc using them. Turn off bayes and all works fine :\ (Any ideas anyone?) Also make sure you

[SAtalk] SA-Talk poisoning Bayes

2003-12-04 Thread Smart,Dan
In reading the sa-learn man file, it says running discussions of spam through sa-learn is bad. Does SA take this into account already, or should I create a procmail rule to bypass SA for messages from SATalk and (possibly) Postfix-List ? <>

Re: [SAtalk] spamds that don't finish

2003-12-04 Thread Cheryl L. Southard
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 03:32:49PM -, Pete Henshall wrote: > Are there spamc processes accessing them?? No. My spamc processes time out after 600 seconds, so they've finished up hours ago after they delivered their e-mails. > - what is in that userpref file? There are only comments in this u

RE: [SAtalk] Spam Statistics

2003-12-04 Thread Gary Funck
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 7:45 AM > To: Rubin Bennett > > > Assuming my minor tweaks to the original script I saw posted here are > correct, here are my latest spam stats.. *sheesh* > > Mail Statistics; >

Re: [SAtalk] Spam Statistics

2003-12-04 Thread tnelson
Assuming my minor tweaks to the original script I saw posted here are correct, here are my latest spam stats.. *sheesh* Mail Statistics; Mails spamassassin rejected scanner total mails Total says 'spam'by rulesetsays virusunde

RE: [SAtalk] BIG HUGE EVIL RULE NEWS!!!!

2003-12-04 Thread Chris Santerre
> -Original Message- > From: Colin A. Bartlett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 7:30 AM > To: Chris Santerre; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [SAtalk] BIG HUGE EVIL RULE NEWS > *snip* > > As always, Chris. Thanks. :-) > What if we were to setup some k

[SAtalk] Report E-mails

2003-12-04 Thread Spam
I want to be able for my customers to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. and have it automatically reported as spam.  I also want themt o be able to send them to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and have them automatically report as not spam.  Does anyone konw how to do this?  I am using sendmail/procma

Re: [SAtalk] SA-Talk poisoning Bayes

2003-12-04 Thread Matt Kettler
At 11:06 AM 12/4/2003, Smart,Dan wrote: In reading the sa-learn man file, it says running discussions of spam through sa-learn is bad. Does SA take this into account already, or should I create a procmail rule to bypass SA for messages from SATalk and (possibly) Postfix-List ? SA's bayesian system

[SAtalk] spamds that don't finish

2003-12-04 Thread Cheryl L. Southard
Hi All, I've got two spamd processes that just wont go away. They've been running for well over 11 hours and are taking up 100% of my cpu. I've run "truss " but it doesn't report anything. The same user, coincidentally, is the recipient of both e-mails, but this user doesn't have any special rul

RE: [SAtalk] spamds that don't finish

2003-12-04 Thread Dan Tappin
I am running SA on OS X 10.2.8 and I have the same issue. I get the same one or two spamd processing just sitting there. I also eventually need to go in an manually kill these processes. I am currently running SA as my mta user. If I lint my config files I get the following: [firewall:~] adm

RE: [SAtalk] disable RCVD_IN_SORBS_xxx feature

2003-12-04 Thread Mike Kuentz (2)
Set the score to 0 ala: score RCVD_IN_SORBS_HTTP 0 Osirusoft is dead. They return a positive for everything, so you should remove it. Not sure if all of these below are dead on, they were scavanged from the list. #2.60 final has them removed. #2.60 rc builds score RCVD_IN_OSIRU 0 score RCVD_

RE: [SAtalk] Spam Statistics

2003-12-04 Thread tnelson
I use spfilter to download the SPAM_SAFE and COUNTRY_SAFE spam blocking lists, which get compiled into an access DB.. for more info on spfilter, check out.. spfilter.sourceforge.net It's nice that it saves a lot of spamassassin checking.. the mail never gets much past connect/helo Tony Nelson

Re: [SAtalk] Spam received with a return path of

2003-12-04 Thread Matt Kettler
At 07:25 AM 12/4/2003, Clive Dove wrote: No big deal at the moment as it is only one message, but what happens when other spammers discover that this is a way to distribute their junk? It's been a problem for a LONG time and is nothing new at all.. This very issue forced sa-talk to become list tha

Re: [SAtalk] Returns 0/0 instead of score...

2003-12-04 Thread Matt Kettler
At 09:15 AM 12/4/2003, James wrote: Ok, I have run in some more spam/ham messages, ran sa-learn --rebuild now when I run spamc -c is spamd still running? This is typically what you'll get if you run spamc when spamd is down. --- This SF.net em

RE: [SAtalk] spamds that don't finish

2003-12-04 Thread Pete Henshall
Are there spamc processes accessing them?? - what is in that userpref file? How have you started spamd? Did it do it under 2.5x? If this is like what I am seeing then a killall -HUP spamd will at least get the server going again. :\ Pete -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mai

[SAtalk] Messages full of white text

2003-12-04 Thread Rubin Bennett
Hello all (again)- I got this one a little while ago (some headers stripped cause I'm paranoid...): Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Original-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from mail.SchoenfeldIns.com (ip67-92-30-74.z30-92-67.customer.algx.net [67.92.30.7

Re: [SAtalk] Long spam times

2003-12-04 Thread Brook Humphrey
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 04 December 2003 07:07 am, Pete Henshall wrote: > Hi there > > Try disabling bayes (bayes 0 in local.cf) - since upgrading to 2.60 we > haven't been able to use bayes as the whole box just gets bogged down and > some spamd processes just si

Re: [SAtalk] BIG HUGE EVIL RULE NEWS!!!!

2003-12-04 Thread Chr. von Stuckrad
To throw oil into the flames: On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 08:10:17PM -0500, Carl R. Friend wrote: >"Why are we hiding from the police, daddy?" > >"Because we use vi, son, and they use emacs." Why not use 'vim' (multi window / multi file / macrolanguage / ... ) All luxuries included, and no n

RE: [SAtalk] Returns 0/0 instead of score...

2003-12-04 Thread James
Thanks for your reply... Before I was able to run spamc -c mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 11:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Spamassassin' Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Returns 0/0 instead of score... At 09:15 AM 12/4/2003, James wrote: >Ok, I have run in some more spam/ham mes

RE: [SAtalk] Messages full of white text

2003-12-04 Thread Mark Muller
There certainly is a rule, and it caught this mail: HTML_FONT_INVISIBLE The score on it is just really low. I've been pondering bumping it up. -Original Message- From: Rubin Bennett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SAtal

RE: [SAtalk] [Subject] Not rewrited when identified as spam

2003-12-04 Thread Vee Persaud
Are you using qmail and qmail-scanner ? If so, see below... qmail-scanner-queue.pl has 2 compile options, scanner="fast_spamassassin" and scanner="verbose_spamassassin". If you use "fast_spamassassin", spamc is then run with the -c option, which does not rewrite the subject. Edit qmail-scann

RE: [SAtalk] Messages full of white text

2003-12-04 Thread Rubin Bennett
I should probably know this, but how can I tweak the score upwards a biton this rule? Thanks, Rubin On Thu, 2003-12-04 at 11:47, Mark Muller wrote: > There certainly is a rule, and it caught this mail: HTML_FONT_INVISIBLE > > The score on it is just really low. I've been pondering bumping it u

[SAtalk] Possible FP on big evil list

2003-12-04 Thread Chris Santerre
CC'd to list for opinions. OK, this one actually bothers me. The URIs hitting are Pull\.xmr3\.com and xmr3\.com . Googleing on these shows many people blocking this domain. Has this person signed up for this "Sams Club" newsletter? Is it UCE not spam? (That is a loaded/large debate quetion right t

[SAtalk] Simple SA-Learn question

2003-12-04 Thread Tobin
I have my bayes built and running. I have 100 new spams to add to it. Can I just SA-Learn JUST those 100 and it will add to the tokens? Do I need to have a equal amount of ham to feed in this next 100 spam? I just dont want to ruin all the work I have spent setting this up. Thanks! Josh >>> [EMA

RE: [SAtalk] Returns 0/0 instead of score...

2003-12-04 Thread up
Than as far as you knew was incorrect. spamc doesn't do anything unless run against spamd, either on your local host or some other host (with -d). Either spamd was running or you were using the spamassassin perl script. On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, James wrote: > > Thanks for your reply... > Before I wa

RE: [SAtalk] Messages full of white text

2003-12-04 Thread Rubin Bennett
duh.. that was posted earlier this week and it apparently got core dumped. Thanks! On Thu, 2003-12-04 at 12:03, Alan Munday wrote: > Rubin > > Add an entry in your local.cf > > score > > E.g. > > score MICROSOFT_EXECUTABLE 4.5 > > Alan > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTEC

[SAtalk] Re: MIME_MISSING_BOUNDARY

2003-12-04 Thread culley harrelson
After further investigate it is aparently something in my html that is triggering this. Looking at the rule definition it is a function call rather than a simple regex. What in my html could trigger this? culley --- This SF.net email is sp

Re: [SAtalk] Spam Statistics

2003-12-04 Thread mikea
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 09:10:01AM -0500, Rubin Bennett wrote: > WEhat are you all seeing for spam vs. ham stats out there? I just ran > my list statistics script and here's what I'm experiencing (much WORSE > than the current "accepted" statistics of about 50/50): > > Stats since the 1st of the

Re: [SAtalk] Spam Statistics

2003-12-04 Thread mikea
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 08:09:31AM -0800, Gary Funck wrote: > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Assuming my minor tweaks to the original script I saw posted here are > > correct, here are my latest spam stats.. *sheesh* > > > > Mail Statistics; > > Mails spam

Re: [SAtalk] Possible FP on big evil list

2003-12-04 Thread Bob Apthorpe
On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:59:13 -0500 Chris Santerre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > CC'd to list for opinions. > > OK, this one actually bothers me. The URIs hitting are Pull\.xmr3\.com and > xmr3\.com . Googleing on these shows many people blocking this domain. Has > this person signed up for this "Sa

[SAtalk] Spamd/Milter Problem

2003-12-04 Thread Mike Carlson
System: FreeBSD 4.9 Perl 5.00503 SpamAssassin 2.6 SpamassMilter SendMail 8.12.9p2 If I run the test GTUBE message through spamassassin using the following command: /usr/sbin/sendmail root < /usr/local/share/doc/p5-Mail-SpamAssassin/sample-spam.txt I get the following in var/log/maillog: D

Re: [SAtalk] How to fix ?

2003-12-04 Thread Gary Lopez
Matt Kettler wrote: At 06:38 PM 12/3/2003, Gary Lopez wrote: Hello, I know this has been asked a lot of times, but is there a fix for the error below or am I just misconfigured ? I am runnin SA2.55 with sol 5.8 and sendmail with procmail. Any suggestions are welcome. Cannot open bayes_p

Re: [SAtalk] SA-Talk poisoning Bayes

2003-12-04 Thread Adam Denenberg
cant you just whitelist the sa-talk mailing lists since i believe Bayes does not learn from whitelists, correct? adam On Thu, 2003-12-04 at 11:21, Matt Kettler wrote: > At 11:06 AM 12/4/2003, Smart,Dan wrote: > >In reading the sa-learn man file, it says running discussions of spam > >through sa-l

[SAtalk] Odd Behaviour

2003-12-04 Thread Owen Becker
This is somewhat interesting. A fair number of mails are getting through with: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-89.6 required=6.0 tests=BAYES_99,BIZ_TLD, CASHCASHCASH,DATE_IN_PAST_06_12,HTML_70_80,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_FONT_INVISIBLE,HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_HTML_ONLY, M

Re: [SAtalk] BIG HUGE EVIL RULE NEWS!!!!

2003-12-04 Thread Roger Merchberger
At 19:13 12/3/2003 -0600, mikea wrote: On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 07:17:28PM -0500, Rick Macdougall wrote: > Peter P. Benac wrote: > > > I have been using Emacs for almost 20 years. Is there any other editor :) > > > > :s/old stuff/newstuff/g only works if you only have one instance of "old > >

RE: [SAtalk] How to fix ?

2003-12-04 Thread Gary Funck
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gary > Lopez > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 9:45 AM > To: Matt Kettler > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [SAtalk] How to fix ? > > > > > Matt Kettler wrote: > > > At 06:38 PM 12/3/2003, Gar

Re: [SAtalk] Odd Behaviour

2003-12-04 Thread Rick Macdougall
Owen Becker wrote: This is somewhat interesting. A fair number of mails are getting through with: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-89.6 required=6.0 tests=BAYES_99,BIZ_TLD, CASHCASHCASH,DATE_IN_PAST_06_12,HTML_70_80,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_FONT_INVISIBLE,HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_

Re: [SAtalk] How to fix ?

2003-12-04 Thread Matt Kettler
At 12:44 PM 12/4/2003, Gary Lopez wrote: bayes_file_mode 0770 bayes_path /etc/mail/spamassassin/bayes bayes_expiry_max_db_size15 bayes_journal_max_size 102400 > > Does the above file exist? yes drwxr-xr-x 2 root other512 Dec 3

RE: [SAtalk] Odd Behaviour

2003-12-04 Thread Yackley, Matt
Nope, score is -89.6 points, looks like the user is listed in "ALL_SPAM_TO" which I believe scores -100 points. HTH, matt > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Owen Becker > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 12:10 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTE

Re: [SAtalk] Odd Behaviour

2003-12-04 Thread mikea
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 01:10:17PM -0500, Owen Becker wrote: > This is somewhat interesting. A fair number of mails are getting through with: > > X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-89.6 required=6.0 tests=BAYES_99,BIZ_TLD, > CASHCASHCASH,DATE_IN_PAST_06_12,HTML_70_80,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, > H

RE: [SAtalk] Odd Behaviour

2003-12-04 Thread Chris Santerre
NEGATIVE 89.6 means it was whitelisted. > -Original Message- > From: Owen Becker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 1:10 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [SAtalk] Odd Behaviour > > > This is somewhat interesting. A fair number of mails are > getting throu

Re: [SAtalk] Odd Behaviour

2003-12-04 Thread Matt Kettler
At 01:10 PM 12/4/2003, Owen Becker wrote: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-89.6 required=6.0 tests=BAYES_99,BIZ_TLD, CASHCASHCASH,DATE_IN_PAST_06_12,HTML_70_80,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_FONT_INVISIBLE,HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_HTML_ONLY, MIME_HTML_ONLY_MULTI,MISSING_MIMEOLE,MI

Re: [SAtalk] Odd Behaviour

2003-12-04 Thread Fred I-IS.COM
I see USER_IN_ALL_SPAM_TO this gives negative points, I think it's -100 Your hits was -89.6 Frederic Tarasevicius Internet Information Services, Inc. http://www.i-is.com/ Owen Becker wrote: > This is somewhat interesting. A fair number of mails are getting > through with: > > X-Spam-Status:

Re: [SAtalk] SA-Talk poisoning Bayes

2003-12-04 Thread Matt Kettler
At 12:53 PM 12/4/2003, Adam Denenberg wrote: cant you just whitelist the sa-talk mailing lists since i believe Bayes does not learn from whitelists, correct? No, bayes does not use the score contributions of whitelisting in determining wether or not to auto-learn, but it can still autolearn if the

Re: [SAtalk] SA-Talk poisoning Bayes

2003-12-04 Thread Adam Denenberg
i thought bayes knew if a message was whitelisted or blacklisted and used that knowledge to prevent impartial bayes learning? Am i wrong in thinking this was ever the case? If bayes doesnt use whitelisting/blacklisting to determine auto_learn, then every whitelisted mail gets learned as ham and e

RE: [SAtalk] spamds that don't finish

2003-12-04 Thread Pete Henshall
Cheryl, Dan and rest of list. So there are a few of us that have spamd's sitting there after spamc has timeout on something nasty, taking up loads of processing power Not just me which makes me feel a bit better. Do you two use bayes and do you have single processor or SMP systems? I have u

Re: [SAtalk] SA-Talk poisoning Bayes

2003-12-04 Thread Matt Kettler
At 02:18 PM 12/4/2003, Adam Denenberg wrote: i thought bayes knew if a message was whitelisted or blacklisted and used that knowledge to prevent impartial bayes learning? Am i wrong in thinking this was ever the case? If bayes doesnt use whitelisting/blacklisting to determine auto_learn, then eve

RE: [SAtalk] Long spam times

2003-12-04 Thread Pete Henshall
> > haven't been able to use bayes as the whole box just gets bogged down and > > some spamd processes just sit there with no spamc using them.  Turn off > > bayes and all works fine :\  (Any ideas anyone?) > Hm I'm not getting that here. Did you make sure to delete your old beys db and > try

[SAtalk] Simplifying BigEvilList rules

2003-12-04 Thread Greg Webster
Seems like it would be much better to simplify and shorten these rules with better regexp. Samples: rawbody BigEvilList_22 /\b(?:agnitum\.com|ahamembership\.com|aicpa-eca\.org|aic pa\.org|aih01\.com|ai\.hitbox\.com|AIRMARCH\.COM|AIRSHADE\.COM|ajc\.com|akss\.or g|albuminfo\.org|alertquotes\.com|al

Re: [SAtalk] SA-Talk poisoning Bayes

2003-12-04 Thread Adam Denenberg
ok that clears it up, sorry for the confusion. I misinterpreted your explanation. I am clear on how this operates now. thanks adam On Thu, 2003-12-04 at 14:37, Matt Kettler wrote: > At 02:18 PM 12/4/2003, Adam Denenberg wrote: > >i thought bayes knew if a message was whitelisted or blacklisted

[SAtalk] Re: BIG HUGE EVIL RULE NEWS!!!!

2003-12-04 Thread Chris Barnes
mikea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ah! The editor wars begin anew! > > I'll just go start some popcorn. > > As for me, I don't open my eggs on the big _or_ the little end. > > I crack 'em around the equator. I'm too embarrassed to tell people I use pico... -- + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +

Re: [SAtalk] spamds that don't finish

2003-12-04 Thread David B Funk
On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Cheryl L. Southard wrote: > Hi All, > > I've got two spamd processes that just wont go away. They've been > running for well over 11 hours and are taking up 100% of my cpu. > I've run "truss " but it doesn't report anything. The same > user, coincidentally, is the recipient o

Re: [SAtalk] Long spam times

2003-12-04 Thread Brook Humphrey
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 04 December 2003 11:39 am, Pete Henshall wrote: > Thanks for the reply > > I deleted bayes* and let SA relearn from my spam archive and same problem, > what are the (working) bayes* options in your local.cf? > > > Thanks > Pete I acutally

RE: [SAtalk] Re: BIG HUGE EVIL RULE NEWS!!!!

2003-12-04 Thread Chris Santerre
> -Original Message- > From: Chris Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 2:54 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [SAtalk] Re: BIG HUGE EVIL RULE NEWS > > > mikea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ah! The editor wars begin anew! > > > > I'll just go sta

[SAtalk] a new Sendmail Filter

2003-12-04 Thread kula Yu
Hi There, There is a new Sendmail Filter developed by Mailshell that is utilizing a very powerful engine to catch spam, Mailshell SpamCatcher. Filter has many configuration options which you can customize according to your needs. It can be freely downloaded from: http://www.mailshell.com/mail/cli

RE: [SAtalk] Simplifying BigEvilList rules

2003-12-04 Thread Chris Santerre
> -Original Message- > From: Greg Webster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 2:44 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [SAtalk] Simplifying BigEvilList rules > > > Seems like it would be much better to simplify and shorten these rules > with better regexp. >

[SAtalk] Sa-learn process

2003-12-04 Thread Vee Persaud
Another, hopefully not dumb, sa-learn question. I am quarantining any email that has a score of 8.5 to 15. Should I just run sa-learn --spam on these messages ? --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials. Become an expert in L

[SAtalk] How to do better than 85% detect?

2003-12-04 Thread Kurt Buff
Howdy, Well, I've implemented the new bigevil.cf, the nov2rules, and the combined popcorn/weeds/backhair rules (dated from 2003/10/14) from merchantsoverseas.com (Oh, thank you for both, Jennifer and Chris!), and am now getting about 85-88% detection vs. about 70-75% before, using SA 2.60. I've al

Re: [SAtalk] a new Sendmail Filter

2003-12-04 Thread Evan Platt
--On Thursday, December 04, 2003 12:13 PM -0800 kula Yu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There is a new Sendmail Filter developed by Mailshell > that is utilizing a very powerful engine to catch > spam, Mailshell SpamCatcher. New? I don't know if new is good. http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1278-210-647

[SAtalk] SA + Openldap problem

2003-12-04 Thread Keith Olmstead
Hello all, Trying to find my problem out. Trying to get Openldap working with spamassassin. I think that I am running into a problem with user problems and there prefs in there home dir. If I setup a user on the system I am able to filter fine, but if use a user in openldap I am not. I have

RE: [SAtalk] Re: BIG HUGE EVIL RULE NEWS!!!!

2003-12-04 Thread Chris Thielen
Chris Santerre said: >> -Original Message- >> From: Chris Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> mikea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Ah! The editor wars begin anew! >> > >> > I'll just go start some popcorn. >> > >> > As for me, I don't open my eggs on the big _or_ the little end. >> > >> >

Re: [SAtalk] Sa-learn process

2003-12-04 Thread Chris Thielen
Vee Persaud said: > Another, hopefully not dumb, sa-learn question. > > I am quarantining any email that has a score of 8.5 to 15. Should I just > run sa-learn --spam on these messages ? > Sounds reasonable to me. -- Chris Thielen Easily generate SpamAssassin rules to catch obfuscated spam phra

RE: [SAtalk] spamds that don't finish

2003-12-04 Thread Dan Tappin
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Pete > Henshall > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 12:28 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [SAtalk] spamds that don't finish > > > Do you two use bayes and do you have sin

[SAtalk] Question about non-operative sa-stats.pl

2003-12-04 Thread Kang , Joseph S.
All: I think I saw an e-mail recently about the same problem I'm seeing with the sa-stats.pl script. The script runs just fine, but all stats returned from looking at /var/log/maillog are 0s. Any ideas on what I might be doing wrong? Essentially, I'm just calling sa-stats.pl as root from the co

RE: [SAtalk] Re: BIG HUGE EVIL RULE NEWS!!!!

2003-12-04 Thread Mark Muller
Bigevil just took a poke at a legit ticketmaster confirmation email, hit on 3 rules: 70, 82 and 150. I'm tracking down the specific URLS, one is entertainment.com :( -Original Message- From: Chris Thielen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 2:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTE

RE: [SAtalk] spamds that don't finish

2003-12-04 Thread Pete Henshall
Hi dan, list, > I think it's simply a function of load. The first system gets the bulk of the mail thoughput. You can see that the > erratic loads > tail off over the weekend. It's wierd. I have tried disabling RBL, bayes and even removing all my third party > rules. No dice. If it is still l

RE: [SAtalk] spamds that don't finish

2003-12-04 Thread Dan Tappin
> -Original Message- > From: Pete Henshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 1:53 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [SAtalk] spamds that don't finish > > > Hi dan, list, > > > I think it's simply a function of load. The first sys

RE: [SAtalk] Re: BIG HUGE EVIL RULE NEWS!!!!

2003-12-04 Thread Mark Muller
Sorry for the double mail, I got excited and sent too early. ticketmaster.com confirmation mails have the following (decidedly evil) domains in them: promotion.entertainment.com (70) a1524.g.akmaitech.net (82) and service.bfast.com (150) Personally, I'll be whitelisting ticketmaster rather than

RE: [SAtalk] a new Sendmail Filter

2003-12-04 Thread Larry Gilson
Seeing that spammers don't get rid of Email addresses, can you imagine the hundreds of new SMTP rejects *accumulating* every day? --Larry > -Original Message- > From: Evan Platt > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 3:35 PM > To: SpamAssassin > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > S

RE: [SAtalk] Re: BIG HUGE EVIL RULE NEWS!!!!

2003-12-04 Thread Chris Santerre
roger that captain. Entertainment domains removed. I actually had a note to check those out. Let me know what the others are. hint: View source, search for 'http://' check against list what you find. 2 minutes tops. :) 1.58 --Chris > -Original Message- > From: Mark Muller [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [SAtalk] Long spam times

2003-12-04 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >OK, after running spamd -D I see this in the output. Is this a DNS issue >on my part or something not configured correctly. DNS is working >correctly in other parts of the tests, but seems the RBL's are timing >out. That's

RE: [SAtalk] Re: BIG HUGE EVIL RULE NEWS!!!!

2003-12-04 Thread Larry Rosenman
--On Thursday, December 04, 2003 16:05:24 -0500 Chris Santerre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: roger that captain. Entertainment domains removed. I actually had a note to check those out. Let me know what the others are. hint: View source, search for 'http://' check against list what you find. 2 min

Re: [SAtalk] a new Sendmail Filter

2003-12-04 Thread Matt Kettler
At 03:13 PM 12/4/2003, kula Yu wrote: Hi There, There is a new Sendmail Filter developed by Mailshell that is utilizing a very powerful engine to catch spam, Mailshell SpamCatcher. Filter has many configuration options which you can customize according to your needs. It can be freely downloaded fr

Re: [SAtalk] Messages full of white text

2003-12-04 Thread Fred I-IS.COM
I thought up an idea for this, insted of trying to detect the white text in general, why not try to detect the patterns the spammers are using with them.. Take the following rules as an example: rawbody FVGT_rb_WHITE_6_WHITE /f[f0-9].{6}http://www.i-is.com/ --

Re: [SAtalk] [Subject] Not rewrited when identified as spam

2003-12-04 Thread Matt Kettler
Tanen, your local.cf is invalid. defang_mime hasn't been a valid option since v 2.50. Run spamassassin --lint and fix all the errors. I get these two errors: Failed to parse line in SpamAssassin configuration, skipping: report_header 1 Failed to parse line in SpamAssassin configuration, skippin

Re: [SAtalk] BIG HUGE EVIL RULE NEWS!!!!

2003-12-04 Thread Bart Schaefer
On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Mark Muller wrote: > promotion.entertainment.com (70) > a1524.g.akmaitech.net (82) > and service.bfast.com (150) > > Personally, I'll be whitelisting ticketmaster rather than removing > akmaitech :P I hate those guys. I presume you mean "akamaitech". What have you got agains

Re: [SAtalk] BIG HUGE EVIL RULE NEWS!!!!

2003-12-04 Thread Larry Rosenman
--On Thursday, December 04, 2003 13:26:27 -0800 Bart Schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Mark Muller wrote: promotion.entertainment.com (70) a1524.g.akmaitech.net (82) and service.bfast.com (150) Personally, I'll be whitelisting ticketmaster rather than removing akmaitech :

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