Re: [SAtalk] Replicating Bayes DB to other SA Boxes

2003-11-14 Thread Margit Meyer
Hi Mark, > The config was set up by an integrator, as my Linux knowledge is > somewhat limited. Is there something missing here in getting the bayes > to work on the remote boxes? > start spamassassin in debug mode (-D or --debug) and look at the output in syslog. Perhaps it is a problem of b

[SAtalk] Non-root user can't build Spamassassin 2.60

2003-11-14 Thread Hugh Caley
I'm attempting to build SpamAssassin 2.60 with my user account at my ISP. I get the following errors with the initial perl Makefile.PL command. Not sure where to begin troubleshooting this. Perl version is 5.004_04. Hugh shell3:~/spamass/Mail-SpamAssassin-2.60$ perl Makefile.PL PREFIX=~/sa

Re: [SAtalk] Spam forward

2003-11-14 Thread Margit Meyer
Hi Dan, > Hey guys! > > Does anyone know if spam can be forwarded onto another mailbox? Right now > I have being trapped in /var/virusmails. > with this procmail recipes ham mails are put in the user's "normal" mailbox, spam mails are put into a user specific spambox. LOGNAME is the name of the

[SAtalk] Best way to sa-learn

2003-11-14 Thread MIKE YRABEDRA
I have had my bayes databases get corrupted a good bit in the past. What is the recommended way to protect what SA has learned? Should I use the journal technique and then just rebuild periodically? Just want to make sure the db does not get corrupted, thus losing all the spam/ham it learned.

[SAtalk] Sa-learn --ham necessary?

2003-11-14 Thread MIKE YRABEDRA
Is it necessary to have SA bayes learn 'ham' as well as 'spam'? --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: ApacheCon 2003, 16-19 November in Las Vegas. Learn firsthand the latest developments in Apache, PHP, Perl, XML, Java, MySQL, WebDAV, and more!

[SAtalk] SA 2.60, Exim 4.24: Large messages aren't passed to spamd correctly

2003-11-14 Thread Christian Ullrich
I'm using SpamAssassin 2.60 with Exim 4.24 on FreeBSD, compiled from ports. Perl is 5.6.1 (I have the same problem with 5.8.1). Large messages don't make it through to spamd completely, instead I get a log entry from spamd like this: bad protocol: header error: (Content-Length mismatch: Expec

[SAtalk] Problem with spamassassin and qmail-scanner

2003-11-14 Thread Tanen
Hello, I'm wondering, i have install spamassassin, qmail, qmail-scanner maildrop mysql vpopmail clamav etc etc. On a Debian Woody   I have run the ./configure script on qmail-scanner with the right command, the script found spamassassin, but it's not including it to the configuration (se

Re: [SAtalk] how to 'redirect' messages for autolearn with various MUAs?

2003-11-14 Thread Michael V. Sokolov
On Friday 14 November 2003 08:25, Dan Kohn wrote: > See the bottom of > http://www.stearns.org/doc/spamassassin-setup.current.html. > Unfortunately, it doesn't include kmail. Thanx for link, redirect in work fine, but adds то From: text "by way of %identity name% %identity from%". This is not cu

[SAtalk] Problem with spamassassin and qmail-scanner

2003-11-14 Thread Tanen
Hello, I'm wondering, i have install spamassassin, qmail, qmail-scanner maildrop mysql vpopmail clamav etc etc. On a Debian Woody   I have run the ./configure script on qmail-scanner with the right command, the script found spamassassin, but it's not including it to the configuration (se

RE: [SAtalk] SA 2.60, Exim 4.24: Large messages aren't passed to spamd correctly

2003-11-14 Thread Bill
> Large messages don't make it through to spamd completely, > instead I get a log entry from spamd like this: It is not a good idea to try to pass large files thru SA. There is a large performance hit on big files. I do not pass anything larger than 128K thru SA on my system. I have yet to see a

[SAtalk] Razor connection times out

2003-11-14 Thread Philip Mak
Razor doesn't seem to be working. This is the output I get with spamassassin -D: Nov 14 08:56:05.758908 report[31327]: [ 8] Checking with Razor Discovery Server 216.52.3.2 Nov 14 08:56:05.758989 report[31327]: [ 6] No port specified, using 2703 Nov 14 08:56:05.759036 report[31327]: [ 5] Connectin

Re: [SAtalk] Salutation in subject

2003-11-14 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Wednesday, November 12, 2003 2:43 AM -0800 Kenneth Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Are there any rules to catch the salutation-in-subject pattern? > > This looks like something requiring an eval rule. It would check if the > subject starts with "name,", where "name" is the first word in t

[SAtalk] Perl Core Dump

2003-11-14 Thread Mike Carlson
I am trying to build a new spamassassin box and I am running into a problem that whenever I send a test message perl core dumps. I am using FreeBSD 4.9, with sendmail and spamass-milter. I run through the steps outlined in the activation.txt file of the spamass-milter port and when I run the fo

Re: [SAtalk] Razor connection times out

2003-11-14 Thread MIKE YRABEDRA
on 11/14/03 8:59 AM, Philip Mak at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Razor doesn't seem to be working. This is the output I get with > spamassassin -D: > > Nov 14 08:56:05.758908 report[31327]: [ 8] Checking with Razor Discovery > Server 216.52.3.2 > Nov 14 08:56:05.758989 report[31327]: [ 6] No port sp

RE: [SAtalk] Razor connection times out

2003-11-14 Thread Dallas L. Engelken
> Nov 14 08:56:05.758908 report[31327]: [ 8] Checking with > Razor Discovery Server 216.52.3.2 Nov 14 08:56:05.758989 > report[31327]: [ 6] No port specified, using 2703 Nov 14 > 08:56:05.759036 report[31327]: [ 5] Connecting to 216.52.3.2 ... > debug: razor2 report timed out after 10 secs. >

Re: [SAtalk] Sa-learn --ham necessary?

2003-11-14 Thread Matt Kettler
At 05:49 AM 11/14/03 -0500, MIKE YRABEDRA wrote: Is it necessary to have SA bayes learn 'ham' as well as 'spam'? Yes. SA won't even try to use bayes scoring until 200 spam AND 200 ham messages are trained. --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: A

Re: [SAtalk] Non-root user can't build Spamassassin 2.60

2003-11-14 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 01:25:06PM -0700, Hugh Caley wrote: > command. Not sure where to begin troubleshooting this. Perl version > is 5.004_04. SA only supports back to 5.005. Anything earlier than that, and it's anyone's guess whether or not it'll work. -- Randomly Generated Tagline: Psych

Re: [SAtalk] auto learn is ALWAYS no

2003-11-14 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 07:32:59AM +0200, Thomas Kinghorn wrote: > I am a little confused as to what triggers the autolearn function. Read the docs, it's in there. If you're not getting autolearning, you may need to adjust your autolearn settings. But read the docs, it'll help you out. -- Rand

RE: [SAtalk] Exchange 2000 + SpamAssassin + Postfix

2003-11-14 Thread Covington, Chris
Use amavisd-new with Postfix as a content-filter and have all spam scoring over your threshold redirected to a mail-enabled Public folder for review. Also create a public folder for end users to drop in (with Outlook, move the message) false negatives. Then create an IMAP script to remove and s

[SAtalk] SA-learn per VIRTUAL user

2003-11-14 Thread Marcio Merlone
Hello all, Considering a postfix mail server, with all virtual users (mysql or ldap), what is the best way to have a bayes db on a per-user basis? I will use maildrop as VDA. I'd like to hear some testimonials, some how-i-did tips, etc. Thanks, and regards. -- Marcio Merlone

Re: [SAtalk] Sa-learn --ham necessary?

2003-11-14 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 10:25:54AM -0500, Matt Kettler wrote: > Yes. SA won't even try to use bayes scoring until 200 spam AND 200 ham > messages are trained. ... not to mention that only learning spam means bayes will be skewed to think everything is spam. -- Randomly Generated Tagline: Uh, so

Re: [SAtalk] auto learn is ALWAYS no

2003-11-14 Thread Matt Kettler
At 07:32 AM 11/14/03 +0200, Thomas Kinghorn wrote: I am a little confused as to what triggers the autolearn function. For autolearning purposes, a second score for the email is calculated. This score is calculated as if bayes were disabled. ie: bayes rules don't count, and the appropriate non-b

[SAtalk] Biz.Yahoo.com 'PRNews' abuse?

2003-11-14 Thread Charles Gregory
Hallo! I got a spam today that just missed being spam by a few fractions of a point. The "Click here" URL was: http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/031112/lnw017_1.html It's not a redirect, but an actual 'press release' on Yahoo itself. But the content is pretty much the stuuf of 'stock alert' spams..

[SAtalk] Empty Return-Path?

2003-11-14 Thread Charles Gregory
Hallo! Another spam today, with the infamous empty return path. (Return-Path: <>) But I didn't see any test that was catching this. Is there something legitimate about an empty return path that makes it a bad test? - Charles --- This SF. Net

Fw: Undeliverable Mail: [SAtalk] SA-learn per VIRTUAL user

2003-11-14 Thread Marcio Merlone
FYI. Begin forwarded message: Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:45:05 + From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Marcio Merlone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Undeliverable Mail: [SAtalk] SA-learn per VIRTUAL user We were unable to deliver your email. The domain you are sending to may have been recently register

Re: [SAtalk] Empty Return-Path?

2003-11-14 Thread Matt Kettler
At 12:26 PM 11/14/2003, Charles Gregory wrote: Another spam today, with the infamous empty return path. (Return-Path: <>) But I didn't see any test that was catching this. Is there something legitimate about an empty return path that makes it a bad test? An empty return path is RFC required to be a

Re: Fw: Undeliverable Mail: [SAtalk] SA-learn per VIRTUAL user

2003-11-14 Thread Matt Kettler
At 12:29 PM 11/14/2003, Marcio Merlone wrote: FYI. Begin forwarded message: Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:45:05 + From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] FYI, this has been mentioned on the list frequently, and has been going on since 10/29 at least.. Unfortunately the list admins can't track which address is

[SAtalk] Runtime problem SA 2.60 on RH 7.3

2003-11-14 Thread Frederick M Avolio
I decided to upgrade SA from 2.55 to 2.60. Some things I read lead me to believe that there are additional tools to deal with obfuscated HTML tags hiding text. Anyway, I downloaded the sources, built it, and installed it with no problems. I rebuilt the Bayes db. When I started it (in debug mode

Re: [SAtalk] Empty Return-Path?

2003-11-14 Thread Steve Thomas
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 12:26:33PM -0500, Charles Gregory is rumored to have said: > > Another spam today, with the infamous empty return path. > (Return-Path: <>) > > But I didn't see any test that was catching this. Is there something > legitimate about an empty return path that makes it a bad

RE: [SAtalk] New Obfuscation Technique?

2003-11-14 Thread Bret Miller
> It did however use a trick to avoid the standard > FROM_AND_TO_SAME so your > rule can help out by adding some score.. However, 104.1 is a > bit excessive, > since there's no white list to over-ride. (Bret is smart and did not > whitelist_from himself). No whitelist of myself necessary here as t

RE: [SAtalk] How do I catch obfuscated characters?

2003-11-14 Thread Bret Miller
> I'm new to the list, and I'm trying to figure out a way of detecting > words with obfuscated characters (i.e. "@pp!3", "app13" = "apple"). You could try using popcorn, weeds, and backhair rules. You can get them here: http://www.merchantsoverseas.com/wwwroot/gorilla/sa_rules.htm Bret

Re: [SAtalk] Empty Return-Path?

2003-11-14 Thread Ryan Moore
All DSNs have them afaik, such as bounces, return receipts, etc. Ryan Moore -- Perigee.net Corporation 704-849-8355 (sales) 704-849-8017 (tech) www.perigee.net Charles Gregory wrote: Hallo! Another spam today, with the infamous empty return path. (Return-Path: <>) But I didn't see any tes

[SAtalk] NO_RDNS_DOTCOM_HELO eratta

2003-11-14 Thread JC
I've been getting messages from aol lately that are triggering this rule. My DNS is not broken, and it's not hitting on any of the other "major ISPs". Does anybody know if aol has changed something lately, or maybe know a workaround? I looked in 20_head_tests.cf, and for the actual rule, it says ev

Re: Fw: Undeliverable Mail: [SAtalk] SA-learn per VIRTUAL user

2003-11-14 Thread Marcio Merlone
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:13:27 -0500 Matt Kettler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > FYI, this has been mentioned on the list frequently, and has been going on > since 10/29 at least.. Sorry, didn't meant to bug anybody. I was on one of those threads. I just thought it could be useful somehow. THAT rep

[SAtalk] Sanity checking new uri rules?

2003-11-14 Thread William Stearns
Good day, all, As many of you know, I've been maintaining a blacklist of spammer domains that's ready to use in Spamassassin (see http://www.stearns.org/sa-blacklist for more information). I'm now trying to take these domains and check the URI's in the body for them as well. My first

Re: [SAtalk] Biz.Yahoo.com 'PRNews' abuse?

2003-11-14 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 11:40:43AM -0500, Charles Gregory wrote: > Hallo! > > I got a spam today that just missed being spam by a few fractions of a > point. The "Click here" URL was: > http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/031112/lnw017_1.html > > It's not a redirect, but an actual 'press release' on

[SAtalk] changing the language

2003-11-14 Thread Samuel Murez
Hello-- I would like one of my users to receive spamassassin template messages in french, while the rest continue receiving them in english. Is this possible ? I have not found in the documentation exactly how to do this. I know the template is /usr/share/spamassassin/30_text_fr.cf What do I pu

RE: [SAtalk] Runtime problem SA 2.60 on RH 7.3

2003-11-14 Thread ian douglas
> Anyway, I downloaded the sources, built it, and installed it with no > problems. I rebuilt the Bayes db. When I started it (in debug mode) it > logged this and then exited: My first install (2.55) was via CPAN, and upgraded (also via CPAN) to 2.60 on RedHat 7.3 and had zero problems. -id --

[SAtalk] SQL prefs + per-user Bayesian?

2003-11-14 Thread Mike Jackson
The ISP I work for is currently using SA site-wide with flat config files and no user config files. There are three boxes running SA that are connected to by the SMTP host, and we scp the configs between the three machines. The users have home directories on the SMTP box, but no shell access. They

[SAtalk] Bayes Expiry limits and Journal size

2003-11-14 Thread Smart,Dan
Title: Blank Stationery I'm running Bayes site wide with about 45,000 messages per day.  Is there any harm in increasing the bayes_expiry_max_db_size and bayes_journal_max_size limits?   If it's ok to make bigger, what is the maximum before something bad starts happening?   <>  

[SAtalk] cant stop sa from scanning outgoing messages!! please help!

2003-11-14 Thread Mike Varre
Hey all, im having a terrible time trying to get sa to stop scanning outgoing messages. normally i wouldnt care but every time a user sends to [EMAIL PROTECTED] a remotedomain.com/user folders are created by sa. this is obviously a huge nuiscense, so i figure i'd just stop scanning outgoing...rig

Re: [SAtalk] cant stop sa from scanning outgoing messages!! please help!

2003-11-14 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 02:40:32PM -0800, Mike Varre wrote: > nuiscense, so i figure i'd just stop scanning > outgoing...right? cant figure out how to though! > > running sa 2.55, qmail, qmailscanner. FYI: This is a qmail/qmailscanner question, not really related to SA. So you may want to go pok

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes Expiry limits and Journal size

2003-11-14 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Smart,Dan writes: > I'm running Bayes site wide with about 45,000 messages per day. Is there > any harm in increasing the bayes_expiry_max_db_size and > bayes_journal_max_size limits? > > If it's ok to make bigger, what is the maximum before someth

Re: [SAtalk] Salutation in subject

2003-11-14 Thread Martin Radford
At Fri Nov 14 13:53:42 2003, Kenneth Porter wrote: > There seems to be some concern that a more aggressive version of > this rule would cause too many false positives, but I've *never* > seen a legitimate message with my name in the subject line. Are > there really people who do this? I don't thi

Re: [SAtalk] cant stop sa from scanning outgoing messages!! please help!

2003-11-14 Thread Dennis Duval
Mike Varre wrote: > Hey all, im having a terrible time trying to get sa to > stop scanning outgoing messages. normally i wouldnt > care but every time a user sends to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] a remotedomain.com/user folders > are created by sa. this is obviously a huge > nuiscense, so i figure i'd jus

Re: [SAtalk] cant stop sa from scanning outgoing messages!! please help!

2003-11-14 Thread Mike Varre
Ok, ive spent the better part of the day in the tcprules, obviously with no luck... from the example on the qmailscanner website, my comments added... #/etc/tcpserver/smtp.rules # # had this explicit specified yet everything was still scanned. #127.:allow,RELAYCLIENT="",RBLSMTPD="",QMAILQUEUE="/v

[SAtalk] Problem with spamd spinning on bayes_toks

2003-11-14 Thread Bob Amen
We've been seeing a problem with spamd that happens at random times. Occasionally, a spamd thread will spin, clocking up CPU time and never finish. This causes other spamd processes to hang and eventually all memory and swap is used up by multiple spamd and sendmail processes. We've set limits

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes Expiry limits and Journal size

2003-11-14 Thread Ted Cabeen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Justin Mason) writes: > Smart,Dan writes: >> I'm running Bayes site wide with about 45,000 messages per day. Is there >> any harm in increasing the bayes_expiry_max_db_size and >> bayes_journal_max_size limits? >> >> If it's ok to make bigger, what is the maximum before somet

Re: [SAtalk] cant stop sa from scanning outgoing messages!! please help!

2003-11-14 Thread Evan Platt
--On Friday, November 14, 2003 3:52 PM -0800 Mike Varre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok, ive spent the better part of the day in the > tcprules, obviously with no luck... > > no matter what i do, it still scans it. As someone else mentioned, you may get better luck in a qmailscanner group. Spa

Re: [SAtalk] Biz.Yahoo.com 'PRNews' abuse?

2003-11-14 Thread Carl R. Friend
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Charles Gregory wrote: > I got a spam today that just missed being spam by a few fractions of a > point. The "Click here" URL was: > http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/031112/lnw017_1.html We've gotten several hundred of those at ny PPOE in the past few days. It's a stand

Re: [SAtalk] Sanity checking new uri rules?

2003-11-14 Thread Carl R. Friend
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, William Stearns wrote: > Good day, all, G'day. > My first attempt to do URI rules is at > http://www.stearns.org/sa-blacklist/sa-blacklist.2003111402.uri.cf My, that's a big list. And a whole lot of regexes > Would someone be willing to just take a qui

Re: [SAtalk] Empty Return-Path?

2003-11-14 Thread Robert Menschel
Hello Charles, See my stats below -- I developed a rule for this test, and running it against my corpus I found that it matched more ham than spam. Bob Menschel Friday, November 14, 2003, 9:26:33 AM, you wrote: CG> Hallo! CG> Another spam today, with the infamous empty return path. CG> (Retur

Re: Fw: Undeliverable Mail: [SAtalk] SA-learn per VIRTUAL user

2003-11-14 Thread Edward Shornock
Marcio Merlone wrote: FYI. Begin forwarded message: Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:45:05 + From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Marcio Merlone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Undeliverable Mail: [SAtalk] SA-learn per VIRTUAL user Testing to see if my access file blocks this annoying bounce --

[SAtalk] Log files and statistics

2003-11-14 Thread James Ervin
I have seen some users posting statistics for SA. I see the logging is built into maillog, but what packages are good at processing the log files? I have found a program called "Sawmill" but that seems a little larger than I was looking for. I would like to know some basic statistics such

Re: [SAtalk] Razor connection times out

2003-11-14 Thread Gorm Jensen
> Razor doesn't seem to be working. This is the output I get with > spamassassin -D: > > Nov 14 08:56:05.758908 report[31327]: [ 8] Checking with Razor Discovery Server 216.52.3.2 > Nov 14 08:56:05.758989 report[31327]: [ 6] No port specified, using 2703 > Nov 14 08:56:05.759036 report[31327]: [

[SAtalk] Razor2.patch can't be applied to Razor 2.36

2003-11-14 Thread Thanh Nguyen
Maybe I am doing something wrong, but it seems that the patch file Razor2.patch in PA 2.6 doesn't match the current source code of Razor 2.36. I am getting these errors trying to patch: # patch -p0 < /export/home/tvn/tmp/Razor2.patch Looks like a unified context diff. Hunk #1 failed at line 969. H

Re: [SAtalk] instalation problems

2003-11-14 Thread spamassassin
Must be the drugs I'm on for this cold. DOH! I *MEANT* to say your procmailrc file is *USUALLY* in /etc ... and it is procmailrc , not procmail.rc. (I'm dealing with some things that make my brain fog...and the cough medicine is icing on the cake). Mairhtin On Thu, 13 N

[SAtalk] SA-Learn. Clarification question.

2003-11-14 Thread Alan Munday
Having just read the FAQ's can I just check the requirements for the source SPAM/HAM mail for sa-learn? Do the contents of the sources messages need to be false positives for the HAM file and false negatives for the SPAM file? I can see that I'll be able to assemble 200 false negatives easily, h

[SAtalk] Filter "special characters" out of mail before spamassassin?

2003-11-14 Thread Jens Benecke
Hi, I get a lot of spam that is 'just not spam' (score 4.8 or 4.9) because it contains "vi.agra", "v.iagra", etc etc in all variants. I would like to scan mails with spamassassin AFTER all the punctuation characters and underscores have been crossed out. Any way how to do this? Using SA 2.60 with

Re: [SAtalk] instalation problems

2003-11-14 Thread spamassassin
What he is saying is : include in your post the file procmail.rc . You'll have to find it, but on most redhat systems it is in /etc/mail/spamassassin ... you should probably do a find on the file though, for safety's sake. Mairhtin On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 11:16:03 -0600, maximo lopez w

[SAtalk]

2003-11-14 Thread Mose', Mark
  Folks:   Anybody have any experience in flagging this type of obscuration: with a rule? Did it generate lots of false positives (for SPAM)?   Mark M.  

[SAtalk] enable the check of russian content

2003-11-14 Thread Sergey V. Baldin
How to determine, whether the Russian dictionaries for check of contents of the letters are established? The option on check of the Russian letters are enabled as "ok_languages ru". Sergey --- This SF. Net email is sponsored by: GoToMyPC GoToMy

[SAtalk] Spam that's consistently sneaking through

2003-11-14 Thread Josh H. Turiel
I've been getting a particular spam repeatedly that manages to slip through SA virtually every time - I've posted most of it (edited for inoffensiveness, and to munge the URL's so he doesn't get hits) here along with the SA analysis: (begin spam) Received: (qmail 5167 invoked by alias); 14 Nov 200

Re: [SAtalk] Sanity checking new uri rules?

2003-11-14 Thread William Stearns
Good evening, Carl, On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Carl R. Friend wrote: >On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, William Stearns wrote: > > > My first attempt to do URI rules is at > > http://www.stearns.org/sa-blacklist/sa-blacklist.2003111402.uri.cf > >My, that's a big list. And a whole lot of regexes

[SAtalk] Chunks of legit text fooling Bayes

2003-11-14 Thread Mike Loiterman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm getting an increasing number of messages, probably from the same idiot, with just huge paragraphs of current news or giberish tacked on to the end of the message. It's obviously fooling bayes, but is there anything we can do about this? - -