Had a conversation with a rather intelligent user of email who had an
inciteful question/remark about sorting his spam.
I thought I would pass it along here as it seemed like a potentially
good idea. Eventually this turns into a request for a code change. I
could do this, but I hate the idea
Tony L. Svanstrom wrote:
Before I launch a website with this new and oh-so-great service I thought I'd
check with you people first, just to see what it is that I'm missing with this
oh-so-great idea (most likely that it either exists, or that someone tried it
and got sued into next week). =)
Th
Andre Bonhote wrote:
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 03:23:30PM +, Mr. SAMUEL TEFAH wrote:
From:Mr. Samuel Tefah
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Attn: The Managing Director,
Now that's funny! They start to send spam to the spam fighter's list :)
Bad enough: The list's mail address is in my white
Darryl Bleau wrote:
Hi,
I know of some concerns about the future of SA. I personally believe in
the OpenSource model and have no questions about whether SA will be
relevant in 6 months, but I'm wondering if someone might have some
concrete statements on the subject.
Mostly, it's this post I w
I just got done parsing through about 450 pieces of spam and have
an observation to share with SpamAssassin's developers in hopes
that this will improve their ability to track this stuff.
I get a lot of mail from addresses like:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
and so on..
I keep getting headers like this:
X-Spam-Status has a write-up on the hits...
X-Spam-Level is always present, but empty.
Now, I do not have anything in my directories which is currently
recorded as Spam (hits >= 5.0).
Is it "OK" that the X-Spam-Level shows nothing until (I assume
here) there is
Theo Van Dinter wrote:
On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 07:13:45PM -0500, Tom Allison wrote:
Failed to run RAZOR_CHECK SpamAssassin test, skipping:
(Can't locate object method "check_razor" via package
"Mail::SpamAssassi
n::PerMsgStatus" (perhaps you forgot to
Justin Mason wrote:
Tom Allison said:
debug: lock: created /home/harvey/.spamassassin/auto-whitelist.lock.penguin.3
452
debug: lock: 3452 trying to get lock on /home/harvey/.spamassassin/auto-white
lis
t pass 0
debug: lock: link to /home/harvey/.spamassassin/auto-whitelist.lock ok
debug: lock
VERSION 2.43
-
debug: running full-text regexp tests; score so far=-10
debug: Razor2 is not available
Failed to run RAZOR_CHECK SpamAssassin test, skipping:
(Can't locate object method "check_razor" via package
"Mail::SpamAssassi
n::PerMsgStatus" (perhaps you forgot to load
"M
debug: lock: created /home/harvey/.spamassassin/auto-whitelist.lock.penguin.3452
debug: lock: 3452 trying to get lock on /home/harvey/.spamassassin/auto-whitelis
t pass 0
debug: lock: link to /home/harvey/.spamassassin/auto-whitelist.lock ok
debug: lock: unlinked /home/harvey/.spamassassin/auto-whi
Mark Martinec wrote:
Tom, (and Hamish),
(thanks for your private mail, sounde very useful,
I'll reply to it separately)
(btw, did you know that RFC2822 explicitly states that it is valid
to have more than one address in the From field!
E.g. a secretary (Sender) mailing a scientific paper
of two
Mark Martinec wrote:
Tom,
- AWL is supposed to be per-recipient. Each recipient has its
own automatically updated whitelist.
My assumption is this:
Blacklists against spammers are universal.
- amavisd-new has no way of telling SA what the envelope recipients are
(SA can only guess that
What ever happened to spamproxyd?
I am having a little trouble finding any "activity" on it.
Is it still supported?
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Mark Martinec wrote:
Tom,
| I'm trying to get SA 2.50 working under the amavisd-new release.
| It's working, I think. At least according to the logs.
| Between the two, there is a marked increase in performance.
| Very nice!
| But there is no WhiteList.
| Any suggestions on how to get this turn
I'm trying to get SA 2.50 working under the amavisd-new release.
It's working, I think. At least according to the logs.
Between the two, there is a marked increase in performance. Very
nice!
But there is no WhiteList.
Any suggestions on how to get this turned on?
Unfortunately the debug line
My apologies if this was already addressed, I have been skipping
most of the 2.50 discussion as, at the time, I didn't think I
needed to follow all the development issues...
But that was then...
I'm trying to get amavisd-new and spamassassin to play together.
From what I've been able to find o
Is 2.50 in CPAN?
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Juan Quesada wrote:
Hello,
I have two questions:
1) If a legitimate email is marked as spam, I want
Spam Assassin to return an email to the sender stating
that the email was marked as spam. We want to do this
inititally so we can whitelist anyone who complains.
2) Also, I can I copy the 60_whit
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--On Thursday, December 12, 2002 3:07 PM -0500 Tom Allison
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| My question is if anyone knows anything about running
| spamassassin/spamc/spamd under sieve.
Sure, sort of. Though, I'm using amavisd-new[1] with postfix[2]. It
I've been using SpamAssassin in procmail rules for a while with
little/no problems.
I just found out about something called sieve, it's a filtering
language that works with cyrus (an IMAP server).
My question is if anyone knows anything about running
spamassassin/spamc/spamd under sieve.
--
N
Tom Allison wrote:
Failed to run RAZOR_CHECK SpamAssassin test, skipping:
(Can't locate object method "check_razor" via package
"Mail::SpamAssassin::PerMsgStatus" (perhaps you for
got to load "Mail::SpamAssassin::PerMsgStatus"?) at
/usr/share/perl5/Mai
Failed to run RAZOR_CHECK SpamAssassin test, skipping:
(Can't locate object method "check_razor" via package
"Mail::SpamAssassin::PerMsgStatus" (perhaps you for
got to load "Mail::SpamAssassin::PerMsgStatus"?) at
/usr/share/perl5/Mail/SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm line 1822.
)
Failed to ru
I was looking around for something that would work as an advanced
filter under postfix.
I've had recommendations for amavisd and found some "stuff" on
spamproxyd.
How is this related to SpamAssassin? spamproxyd and a lot of
people here have mentioned amavis so I'll guess this is a wealth
of i
I have version 2.43.
Where are the BAYES filter settings?
How do I configure them.
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Justin Mason wrote:
BTW, just met with some researchers in Trinity College here in Dublin for
lunch, an AI guy and a distributed-systems peer-to-peer guy, they're
*both* looking at starting anti-spam projects.
So, wondering -- does anyone have good ideas for new systems in those
areas, that can h
OK, I've done all the RTFM and still don't have an answer to this one:
spamassassin has command options for adding address to the AWL
(--add-addr-to-blacklist) and by default it will add that address to the
current users list (~/.spamassassin?).
spamc/spamd run as root or as whatever you specif
For security reasons I am running spamd under a seperate username
'spamd -d -a -u foo'
This creates a system wide AWL under the user 'foo' home directory
(/var/spool/spamassassin).
Problem is that the command 'spamassassin --add-addr-to-blacklist' doesn't
know anything about the user 'foo' and
Not even sure where to begin with this one...
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Nov 30 21:33:10 gandolf tallison: spamd starting
Nov 30 21:33:12 gandolf spamd[21988]: Bareword found where
operator expected at (eval 21) line 95, near
"25FREEMEGS_URL_uri_test"
Nov 30 21:33:12 gandolf spamd[21988]: ^I(Missing operator before
$status = $f->check_message_text ($mailtext)
Check a mail, encapsulated in a plain string, to
determine if it is spam or not.
Otherwise identical to "$f-"check()> above.
Apologies for not RTFM-ing earlier... I thought I did, but not carefully enough.
Que
I would like to be able to use the Mail::Audit::SpamAssassin module in some
perl code that I'm putting together, but I have run into a problem that is
probably trivial.
If I receive the email as a string/array (header & body), how do I convert
that into an object that SpamAssassin would underst
John Rudd wrote:
Along those lines, it'd be nice to define things which are like
whitelists and blacklists, but have separate lists and separate scores.
So, like, I might have:
addlist white to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # same as whitelist_to
addlist black from [EMAIL PROTECTED] # same as blackli
Ralf Hildebrandt wrote:
* Tom Allison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
How do you use procmail to filter outbound email?
If you're using Postfix, you can use a content_filter that invokes
procmail.
So if I have an entry like (/etc/postfix/main.cf):
mailbox_command = procmail -a "$
Tony L. Svanstrom wrote:
On Sun, 24 Nov 2002 the voices made John Rudd write:
1) Have your mail client put a copy of all outgoing messages into a
particular folder (like "Sent"). (most clients do this already, so its
no big deal)
2) Write a program which parses that file out and adds those add
Han Ahlers wrote:
Hi,
i've installed SpamAssassin and want to redirect all tagged mail to a
dedicated mailbox.
anybody experience on this??
han
Using procmail:
If you want to redirect all tagged mail as is (with tags) to a mailbox
"spam_mail":
:0 :
* ^X-Spam-Status: Yes
spam_mail
Without
Dark Alchemist wrote:
Rich Duzenbury wrote:
I use a procmail recipe that checks the X-Spam-Level flag, something like
:0
* ^X-Spam-Level: \*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*
/dev/null
Non-spam doesn't have an X-Spam-level header.
Spam with less than nine stars (what I'm using) gets delivered because it
doesn't
Dark Alchemist wrote:
if hits <= 5 do not touch
if hits >5 and hits < 15 tag as possible spam
if hits > 15 its spam now shove it in the garbage can of /dev/null
Can that be done and if so how?
Thanks.
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Ronald Wiplinger wrote:
Tom,
I still want to give it a try.
I use sendmail and procmail uses spamd
tmda wants also in procmail, and I have no idea if that can be done,
just by putting the suggested procmail of tmda after the existing lines
of spamd. If yes, than I can go to the next level.
I d
Diffenderfer, Randy wrote:
"SpamArchive.org has just been launched. SpamArchive.org is a
community resource that provides a database of known spam to be
used for testing, developing, and benchmarking anti-spam tools.
The goal of this project is to provide a large repository of spam
that can b
Mike Leone wrote:
Steve Thomas ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) had this to say on 11/20/02 at 13:18:
| X-Spam-Status is ok with Yes, hits required but how do i get rid
| of the tests= part?
procmail/formail, or hack the SA code.
| I do not want the report at all in the message body how do u get
| rid of
Michael Moncur wrote:
I wouldn't object to using a TMDA-like system on suspected spam (say,
anything scoring 5 to 10). The trouble with that is that SpamAssassin works
so well, I've only had about 5 false positives in the last two months, and
all of them were automated emails that wouldn't have
Bob Amen wrote:
Some mail clients (the version of Mozilla I'm running, among them)
don't allow one to filter on a user defined header. Only the standard
ones are in the pull down list.
WHAT version? Mine works great!
version 1.0.
You have to create a custom header first.
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Tony Hoyle wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Ronald Wiplinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 21 November 2002 13:50
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [SAtalk] Is to identify yourself by return email necessary in
the future?
I just come accross the article at
http://slate.msn.com/?id=2074042
Matt Sergeant wrote:
Tom Allison said the following on 21/11/02 10:27:
"SpamArchive.org has just been launched. SpamArchive.org is a
community resource that provides a database of known spam to be used
for testing, developing, and benchmarking anti-spam tools. The goal of
this proje
"SpamArchive.org has just been launched. SpamArchive.org is a
community resource that provides a database of known spam to be
used for testing, developing, and benchmarking anti-spam tools.
The goal of this project is to provide a large repository of spam
that can be used by researchers and to
files it opened.
At 09:28 AM 11/15/2002 -0500, Tom Allison wrote:
tallison@penguin:~$ cat /etc/spamassassin/local.cf
What about all those numbered ruleset files like
bash-2.05a$ ls /etc/spamassassin/
10_misc.cf25_body_tests_es.cf 30_text_pl.cf
65_debian.cf
20_body_tests.cf
Matt Kettler wrote:
try /etc/mail/spammassassin/local.cf
AFAIK /etc/spamassassin/local.cf is the wrong spot and is not checked by
spamassassin.
COOL!
This is either a problem with:
Old Version
or
Debian
Debian sometimes has some weird policies...
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tallison@penguin:~$ cat /etc/spamassassin/local.cf
# This is the right place to customize your installation of
SpamAssassin.
# See 'perldoc Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf' for details of what can be
# tweaked.
#
###
#
rewrite_subje
Is there anything which can age the list of names present?
Or do they just not get that large over time?
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Justin Mason wrote:
Tom Allison said:
perldoc Mail::SpamAssassin says:
$f->set_persistent_address_list_factory ($factoryobj)
Set the persistent address list factory, used to cre-
ate objects for the automatic whitelist algorithm's
persistent-storage
I think I have found a perldoc problem:
perldoc Mail::SpamAssassin says:
$f->set_persistent_address_list_factory ($factoryobj)
Set the persistent address list factory, used to cre-
ate objects for the automatic whitelist algorithm's
persistent-storage back-end. S
I was looking for Bayesian filters and found this in CPAN.
Not sure how well it works or if it is event going to play nice
with Mail::Audit objects.
Does anyone have any experience or suggestions with the use of
Bayesian filters? I've seen a few comments here and there, but
nothing that shows
sandra wrote:
HI,
I have run sa-learn-spam on my spam folders , but
when I forward a mail message again to me that
had already been learned by spamassassin, it scores
very low points to it (bayes_20, bayes_30) , but never
considers the message spam.
What is it? Do I have to define rules
Theo Van Dinter wrote:
On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 01:49:17PM -0600, Apollo @ Carmel (lists account) wrote:
How do I make SA to send messages with certain score or origin to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Also, what do I have to enter in conf file (for whole system) to have
all e-mail originating from any host
Theo Van Dinter wrote:
On Sun, Nov 10, 2002 at 11:43:50AM -0700, Bob Proulx wrote:
Hi, I see that spamassassin -d will remove markup from a single message,
but is there a good way to remove spamassassin markup from an entire
mbox?
formail -s spamassassin -d < mailbox-tagged > mailbox-untagged
Klaus Heinz wrote:
Patrick Bores wrote:
Piping a message to spamassassin applies the rule correctly.
Piping the same message to spamc ignores the rule.
Any ideas as to why this is happening?
A mistake (corrected in the most current CVS sources) disabled 'header'
rules specified in the us
Matt Kettler wrote:
Well, first off -W and -R only apply to the auto-whitelist as it says.
So unless you use SpamAssassin with the -a option all the time, using
these commands does NOTHING (well, nothing that matters).
These commands are really intended more as a way of "fixing" problems
with
I was looking at the man pages for -W and -R and have a question:
If I am sending email through this process, then is it going to
also process my own address?
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I was reading through the man pages and found a potential problem regarding the
options to add-to-whitelist and add-to-blacklist.
According to the manpages:
-W, --add-to-whitelist
Add all email addresses, in the headers and body of the mail message read
from STDIN, to the auto
Does anyone have an example of using spamassassin and procmail
scoring to determin spam without dumping in the headers...
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I confess, I am new.
I read through, not thoroughly, but through the perldoc pages for
the Mail::SpamAssassin module.
Where do I find more on such things as:
Razor
Bayesian_Filter
MIME
I'm interested in playing with plugging more perl based modules
around Mail::SpamAssassin to build a better mo
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