On Wed, 14 Jan 2004, Bob Apthorpe moaned:
> ISPs don't need to charge customers for the privilege of unfiltered
> outbound port 25 access; all I ask is that they tell customers it's
> blocked and require them to specifically ask for it to be unblocked rather
> than give it to them unblocked by defa
On Tue, 13 Jan 2004, Chris Santerre yowled:
> "But what about PGP sigs?"
> Taken care of!
>
> "But what about Embedded images?"
> Taken care of!
>
> "But what about forwarded emails?"
> Taken care of!
>
> "But what about certain yahoo groups?"
> Guess? Taken care of!
"But what about sourc
On Fri, 9 Jan 2004, Gary Funck stipulated:
> Here's an idea that I've been considering for a while: have SA change its
> scoring strategy to use a Neural Net, instead of using the strictly additive
> scoring. SA would still use its custom rules to detect spam markers, but it
> would let the NN do t
On Thu, 8 Jan 2004, Robert Menschel uttered the following:
> Yes, there are three reasons you might not want to use bigevil.
>
> 1) You like getting spam.
>
> 2) You run SA with a threshold level very different from the default 5.0
> score, and don't have the time or ability to adjust the bigevil
On Tue, 6 Jan 2004, Chris Santerre stipulated:
> "Like sands thru the hourglass, so are the spams of our lives."
To quote John M. Ford's _Eventful History: Version 1.x_:
`It's existential crisis time for the machines. Is this all we were made
for? they begin to ask. Mips are real and bitrate earn
On Sun, 28 Dec 2003, Bob Proulx stated:
>> My publication is double-opted in by 15,000 families with children with
>> autism.
... but not by mine, nor will it be. I prefer to read newsletters
written by people who reasearch before they sound off.
> Statements such as that during an introduction o
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen muttered drunkenly:
> If I run sa-learn while SpamAssassin is checking mail, I get messages
> like the following from the spam-checking process:
>
> Cannot open bayes databases /var/list/.spamassassin/bayes_* R/W: lock failed: File
> exists
>
> (This
On 15 Dec 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] mused:
> On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 22:45:00 +0000, Nix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted to
> spamassassin-talk:
> > (If you're paranoid, you could make sure that you don't have
> > confidential single tokens in there: bank account number
On Fri, 12 Dec 2003, Matthew van Eerde said:
>> >I'm just curious. I've NEVER seen Yahoo! tagged bulk email
>> with SA tags.
>>
>> Odds are the open relay that the spammers sent the mail
>> through was running SA.
>>
>> Yes, you'd think anyone using SA would check for open relay,
>> but it do
On 12 Dec 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] moaned:
> On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 09:10:29 -0500, Adam Denenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> posted to spamassassin-talk:
> > What i want to start is a Bayes Corpus Project. I would like to be
> > able to allow people to submit confirmed ham and/or spam to a large
> > b
On Mon, 24 Nov 2003, Chris Santerre stated:
> The FP rate for all of these is just about zero.
Has anyone run these on a large corpus to see how it goes?
(I've seen no mass-check-style output for these rules.)
--
`Me, I want exploding spaceships and pulverized worlds and clashes of
billion-yea
On Mon, 24 Nov 2003, Evan Platt said:
> A mechanic of 2 seater Cessna's wouldn't be repairing a 747 or DC-10. A
> helicopter pilot wouldn't fly a DC-10. Why would anything but a experienced
> Linux System Administrator be administrating a linux System?
Because you have to *learn* to be a system ad
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003, Rajdeep Larha stipulated:
> Hi Jennifer,
> I read your mail. But this is something little above it. There are certain
> words in 20_porn.cf. When I use only those words even then the rating given
> is too low. I used 5 words from the list in same case.. even then the mail
> was
On Sat, 25 Oct 2003, Justin Mason said:
> I have seen addresses munged as follows (perl code to illustrate):
>
> s/nospam//i;
> s/spam//i;
> tr/A-Z/a-z/;
A lot of spamware gets confused by email addresses containing $ signs;
I've used that as a Usenet reply-to for years, and I s
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003, Muhannad Tamemi spake:
>
> Thanks for answering .
> again please i need to be sure of sendmail version , i have sendmail 8.9.3 , does it
> work ??!!
As long as you apply the appropriate patches to fix the multiple severe
security holes known in this version, yes, it does.
(
On Thu, 7 Aug 2003, Daniel Carrera muttered drunkenly:
> I just got a spam. This is from the header:
>
> X-Spam-Status: Yes, hits=5.4 required=5.0
> tests=ALL_CONSONANTS,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTTP_USERNAME_USED,
> MY_PURCHASE,MY_VIRUS,MY_VIRUS_1,MY_VIRUS_2,MY_VIRUS_3,
>
On Thu, 07 Aug 2003, Harley Peters uttered the following:
> Nix wrote:
>> On Mon, 04 Aug 2003, Harley Peters spake:
>>
>>>The default setup of DCC is to report all mail (automaticaly) to the DCC servers.
>>>You have to whitelist any mailing list that you receive
On Tue, 5 Aug 2003, Ian Douglas mused:
>> This can be quickly pulled from a whois lookup.
>
> There's always the catch that the standard 'whois' lookup will only look for
> .com, .net and .edu domains. If you get a 2-letter domain like .us or .ca or
> .it, etc., you need to use a specialized whois
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003, Justin Mason said:
> Folks --
>
> just to add to this thread of absurd spam filtering.
>
> Without naming names -- if you're going to mail me directly, and you're
> blocking all mail from .ie using one of those country code blacklists,
*boggle* *boggle* *boggle*
WHY?!
>
On Thu, 7 Aug 2003, William Nichols stated:
> unable to open ./SPAM/Restoring Creditworthiness to Power Companies :
> at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0/Mail/SpamAssassin/ArchiveIterator.pm
> line 331.
> unable to open Sept. 22-23 NY NY.eml: at
> /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0/Mail/SpamAssassin/Arc
On Mon, 04 Aug 2003, Harley Peters spake:
> The default setup of DCC is to report all mail (automaticaly) to the DCC servers.
> You have to whitelist any mailing list that you receive in order to prevent them
> from being reported.
... and it's kind of hard to see why you'd want to do that. After
On Wed, 6 Aug 2003, Daniel Carrera yowled:
> On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 09:10:36PM +0300, Harri Pesonen wrote:
>>
>>This has probably been asked a zillion times, but why so low scores?
>
> I think that it's just to pick safe defaults. Bayes is only reliable
> after it's been well-trained.
The
On Tue, 5 Aug 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered the following:
>>> It looks like orbs.dorkslayers.com is, sadly, offline once again. If
>>> there are any active queries against it perhaps they should be
>>> removed to streamline the tests. Here is some information I was
>>> able to find on it.
>>
On Wed, 6 Aug 2003, Chris Blaise spake:
> Wait a minute, I don't think that's true. By default DCC is a
> client only and you can poll any of the publically available servers.
> I'm pretty sure you need to get permission from another DCC to actually
> submit data.
Well, I'm submitting to dc
On Wed, 23 Jul 2003, Daniel Carrera stipulated:
> On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 12:00:13AM +0100, Nix wrote:
>
>> Spam actually seems to differ quite a lot between individuals,
>
> Really? Why would that be the case?
I think it depends which spammers' mailing lists you&#x
On Thu, 24 Jul 2003, alan premselaar said:
> however, blocking entire IP classes such as 61.*.*.* is, in my opinion, a
> very narrow minded thing to do. keep in mind that the internet is a global
> entity, and by blocking that particular IP class, you'll have blocked me
> from being able to reply
On Tue, 22 Jul 2003, Daniel Carrera stipulated:
> Hi all,
>
> Does anyone have a pool of spam they can lend me? ;)
>
> I'm trying to teach SA's Bayesian filer. I have no shortage of ham to
> give it. I brought the ham pool almost to 500 messages just today. But I
> only have 60 spams to gi
On Tue, 22 Jul 2003, John McGivern stated:
> I did the \ in front of the @ and the . and that works great. So a \
> goes in front of any symbol that means something in regex to negate it
> and treat it like a character.
It's called `escaping' (negation is something quite different in
regexps), bu
isclassified ham, but
that's so rare for me that I can't remember the last time I had to do
it).
Everything else gets handled by a triplet of cron jobs:
# Delete spam from my spam database and Bayes classifier that's more than six months
old.
# (Such spam is of little use anywhere.)
On Sun, 20 Jul 2003, Daniel Carrera muttered drunkenly:
> Hello,
>
> I'm trying to figure out how to use 'sa-learn' to train SA's spam filter.
> I have already looked at the man page.
>
> I am not entirely sure what kind of input is acceptable to sa-learn.
>
> On teaching ham:
> ==
On Sun, 20 Jul 2003, Simon Lyall uttered the following:
> 2. I was getting the odd corruption of the DB (which causes all sorts of
>problems).
There was a nasty Linux NFS client bug between 2.4.20pre3 and 2.4.21
which could have caused symptoms like this; other symptoms would have
been spuriou
On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, Kelson Vibber yowled:
> Nix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>You'd have to run the files through spamassassin -d before passing them
>>to razor, and sa-learn also has to do that, so spamassassin -r is faster
>>(you're only doing the equivalen
On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] muttered drunkenly:
> but by doing sa-learn, one has the option to skip rebuilding the bayes
> database after the scan -- which has significantly reduced my
> execution time and resources used
>
> spamassassin -r doesn't seem to do that
spamassassin -r alway
On Tue, 15 Jul 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered the
following:
> spamassassin -r reports to razor/pyzor and bayes
razor, pyzor, dcc, and bayes.
> sa-learn only does bayes?
>
> what would be best for reporting a maildir of spam?
>
> spamassassin -r each file?
>
> or sa-learn the directory and th
On Wed, 9 Jul 2003, Jeff Capeci spake:
[stuff]
Interesting. The headers of this mail included:
X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE version=2.55
X-Spam-Level: *
X-Spam-Report: This mail is probably spam. The original message has been attached
along with this
On 10 Jul 2003, Yorkshire Dave said:
> HX-Envelope-From: $g
> HX-Envelope-To: $u
This adds the header even to mail that's being relayed on and not
locally delivered.
If you don't want that, something like
H?l?X-Envelope-Sender: $g
will do the trick.
--
`We cannot get a new line down the pipe
On Tue, 08 Jul 2003, Kelson Vibber mused:
> Simon Byrnand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>I wonder if anyone has any stats or anecdotal evidence on the relative
>>effectiveness of Razor2, DCC, and Pyzor ?
>
> I don't have any stats, just anecdotal evidence. I've found Pyzor to be effective,
> somet
On Tue, 08 Jul 2003, Tony Earnshaw muttered drunkenly:
> I've no experience with IMAPAssassin, but spamd runs as a parent
> spawning children on demand - as does amavisd-new. Active spamd
> processes typically consume up to 22-25 MB each on my RH 7.2/Perl
> 5.6.1 Linux m/c and non-active 16-17 MB.
On Sat, 5 Jul 2003, Balam Willemsen said:
> The online database of spammers' tactics
An odd way to describe bugzilla.
(well, it said *online*, and that's the only thing I can think of that
fits that description. ;} )
\end{pedant}
--
`It is an unfortunate coinc
On Fri, 27 Jun 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered the following:
> The default location for SpamAssassin local rules on my FreeBSD boxes
> appears to be /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf.
It's /etc/mail/spamassassin/*
i.e., everything in that directory is processed, in lexicographical sort
order.
l
On Fri, 06 Jun 2003, Kai Schaetzl uttered the following:
> Jonathan Vanasco wrote on Fri, 6 Jun 2003 11:21:43 -0400:
>
>> what about the random stuff?
>
> I think this is specifically included for confusing Bayes.
No, spams with piles of ordinary email pasted onto the bottom are for
that. The ra
On Sat, 24 May 2003, Ross Vandegrift said:
> On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 11:18:51AM -0400, Chris Woodfield wrote:
>> Just got this error from sa-learn...
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sa-learn --spam --mbox ~/mail/spam-caught
>> Cannot open bayes_path /home/rekoil/.spamassassin/bayes R/O: Inappropriate
On Sun, 29 Dec 2002, Mike Saunders said:
> Every time you load spamassassin you have to load the entire perl
> interpreter and it's environment. It has to scan it's library pathis (I
> believe...) and you may have more in place now. That takes time. Plus
> you're running a lot of other processes
On Fri, 25 Oct 2002, Scott Lambert said:
> Run with what you have and disable to CPU intensive checks as needed to
> allow the box to handle the load. I'm thinking of RAZOR and DCC.
That's odd, because Razor / DCC / Pyzor are much *less* CPU-intensive
than all the regex tests and many of the eval
On 19 Oct 2002, Lars Hansson moaned:
> On Sat, 2002-10-19 at 01:22, Matt Kettler wrote:
>> if it's 2.43, the AWL tracks both the from address AND the orginating IP.
>
> Uh, I do hope it's the IP that actually delivered the mesage to you that
> is being tracked and not the originating one?
I hope
On Fri, 18 Oct 2002, Martin Radford stipulated:
> I'm pretty sure it's their own custom MTA. The SMTP connection banner
> is:
It used to be a distorted MMDF variant, I think, but that may have
changed in the last couple of years.
--
`It's hard to properly dramatize, say, the domestic effects o
On 09 Oct 2002, Mark Lowes mused:
> Random pondering, just how robust is the checking of the files in
> $HOME/.spamassassin/, ie how does SA deal with problem lines (ignore
> them or flag an error?)
It prints an error out (see the failed_line: label in
lib/Mail/SpamAssassin/Conf.pm), and increme
On Mon, 7 Oct 2002, Dan Smart said:
> ImportError: No module named distutils.core
>
> I've loaded a current copy of python 2 (Python 1 is still loaded)
>
> [root@lewis pyzor-0.4.0]# rpm -q python2
> python2-2.2.1-1
> [root@lewis pyzor-0.4.0]# rpm -q python2-tools
> python2-tools-2.2.1-1
> [root@
On Sun, 6 Oct 2002, Robin Lynn Frank stipulated:
> AARRGGHH! Guess I'll have to see what disasters I can create upgrading
> python ;-(
Indeed:
,[ Misc/NEWS for Python 2.2.1 ]
| Core and builtins
|
| - Added new builtin function bool() and new builtin constants True and
| False to ease b
On Sat, 5 Oct 2002, Robin Lynn Frank uttered the following:
> I was going to try pyzor with SA, but the install bombs. Anyone know what I
> did wrong? (Or do I have to subscribe to yet another list?)
>
> # python setup.py build
> Traceback (most recent call last):
> File "setup.py", line 5,
On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, Matthew Cline yowled:
> On Friday 12 July 2002 10:51 pm, mark wrote:
>> The SpamAssassin help file lists some information about installing
>> dccproc for spam testing.
>> Is there a way to tell if and how well the dcc tests are working?
>
> Add "dcc_add_header 1" to your user
On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Bob Proulx mused:
[Hormel SPAM]
> their trademark. It is their revenue source. What would you do in
> their place?
Um, I hate to point this out, but Hormel's revenue source is a physical
product, not a trademark.
(sheesh, IP madness)
--
`There's something satisfying about
On Fri, 5 Jul 2002, Bob Proulx stated:
> The three bug lists for fileutils, shellutils, textutils became so bad
> that the maintainer decided to moderate them. Now those are low spam
> noise primarily because each message is scanned by a human (either Jim
> or myself) and out of every 15 or 20 sp
On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, Helen Best said:
> Spamassassin will now run the Makefile, the Make and the Make install but
> fails with the Make test.
>
> Can anyone help me with the problems please
Sure, if you say what the symptoms are.
Providing the output from the `make test' is vastly more useful t
On Wed, 15 May 2002, Craig R. Hughes mused:
> Nix wrote:
>
> N> On Wed, 15 May 2002, Michael Stenner said:
> N> > Genetic Algorithm. Clever method for optimizing complicated
> N> > mathematical systems.
> N>
> N> Or, rather, for searching large and ir
On Wed, 15 May 2002, Michael Stenner said:
> Genetic Algorithm. Clever method for optimizing complicated
> mathematical systems.
Or, rather, for searching large and irregularly defined spaces (spaces
that are too large or too complicated to search systematically).
--
`There are not words enoug
On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Thomas Egrelius said:
> it "hangs" on trying to open the auto-whitelist db, and after the default
> 30 tries it gives up with the message "Cannot open
> ~/.spamassassin/auto-whitelist: permission denied" or similar. I've tried
> to set permissions of files and directories w
On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, Lars Hansson mused:
> On Wed, 24 Apr 2002 10:44:31 +0100
> "Matt Sergeant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Also, I cannot stress enough: Use a caching nameserver!
>
> I presume you mean use a caching nameserver on the machine running spamd.
> Most setups will already have a
On Sat, 20 Apr 2002, Craig R. Hughes muttered drunkenly:
> Nix wrote:
> N> Bear in mind that you can license different bits of a program
> N> differently; for instance, you could license the EvalTests.pm under a
> N> dual license permitting free modification and redistributio
On Sat, 20 Apr 2002, Craig R. Hughes muttered drunkenly:
> Bart Schaefer wrote:
>
> BS> On Fri, 19 Apr 2002, Craig R Hughes wrote:
> BS>
> BS> > Bart Schaefer wrote:
> BS> >
> BS> > BS> Right; the GPL doesn't require you to expose to any third party any
> BS> > BS> changes that you make; it just
On Sat, 20 Apr 2002, Bart Schaefer said:
>On a guess, I'd say that
> it all comes back to the GPL's use of "work" as a noun without defining
> it. "The work" of a program could be construed to include its algorithms.
IANAL, but `the work' in copyri
On 02 Apr 2002, Ken Causey muttered drunkenly:
> I'm wondering what reporting spamassassin -r actually does. I realize
> that it reports to the razor database. I'm wondering what else.
Nothing else, at present.
>whether or not it attempts to detect
> relayin
he rest in a
mailbox that's read more often.
,
| # SpamAssassin, assassinate!
| :0 fw
| | spamc
|
| # Razor pit, this is certain spam, regardless of what SpamAssassin said
| # (we run SpamAssassin over it just to see what it says)
| :0 H
| * ^To: .*nix-razor-pit$
| {
| :0 Hc
| | spamassass
You may recall I reported a weird `File exists' bug with libdb/DB_File
hitting autowhitelists. I've fixed it.
It's not a spamassassin or Perl problem; it's a libdb problem.
It seems that libdb internal symbols in libdb2 and libdb3 conflict, even
though the names do not and the libdb docs say you
On Fri, 1 Mar 2002, Matthew Cline muttered drunkenly:
> Does "spamassasin -r" strip all the spam reporting stuff from the message
> before it's sent to Razor? Or is it merely a wrapper around "razor-report"?
> I'd like to use it to report spam that doesn't go above the auto-report
> thershhol
On 26 Feb 2002, Craig Hughes moaned:
> FYI, your code example is not even close to concurrency-safe. If one
Oh, it's an astonishing kludge written in haste and isn't meant to be
right.
What's more, it doesn't help :(
Further testing indicates that it's the previous state of the db that's
at fa
OK. I've been testing spamassassin from CVS, and I've been getting the
bizarre error message that Craig reports, the `Cannot open: File exists'
one. However, in my case this can't be blamed on `a stupid RedHat
configuration error', because I'm not running RedHat (or any
distribution).
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