Re: [SAtalk] Bouncing spam as if I never got it?

2002-07-10 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 07:46:13PM -0400, Brian Kendig wrote: > I'm using spamd/spamc via fetchmail and procmail. When > SpamAssassin flags an email as spam, is there any way for me to > 'bounce' that mail back to the sender as if I never received it? Yes, but you need to do it at SMTP time. O

Re: [SAtalk] Re: spamassassin 2.31 rpm

2002-07-04 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 10:18:59AM -0400, Theo Van Dinter wrote: > On Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 03:20:31AM -0700, Kenneth Porter wrote: > > Can you add a Requires: for package perl-Time-HiRes? (This is available > > in RH7.3 and Rawhide, but for earlier RH it's in Power Tools.). I just > > It should a

Re: [SAtalk] How to produce return codes...

2002-07-02 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Tue, Jul 02, 2002 at 09:52:01AM +0100, Matt Sergeant wrote: > Meino Christian Cramer wrote: > >Hi, > > > > is it possible (and how) to configure spamd/sa-exim that way, that > > the spammer gets a return code, which says, that my email address is > > permanently not reachable (was it return cod

Re: [SAtalk] Hello...

2002-07-02 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Sun, Jun 30, 2002 at 06:27:01PM +0200, Meino Christian Cramer wrote: > One think I hadn't find out until now is how I can make > this combo make _bouncing_ spam instead of sending back > and explanation, why and who has detected a certain mail > as spam. My code for exim does that, see SAp

Re: [SAtalk] Why no message-id in debug log

2002-06-29 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Thu, Jun 27, 2002 at 10:23:53PM -0700, Harry Putnam wrote: > I still see no evidence of a message-id being inserted into debug > logs to allow tracking. Or any evidence of time stamping. > > This bug was supposed to have been subsumed and corrected by another > one, but these two factors have

Re: [SAtalk] What version of Perl is required for SpamAssassin?

2002-06-27 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 01:29:24PM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: > On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, tang wrote: > > > Just installed SpamAssassin on our Sun's Ultra10 running Solaris 7, > > but it doesn't work: > > > > tang@bionmr3:~/bin/SpamAssassin 124>./spamassassin < sample-nonspam.txt > > Can't locate Ti

Re: [SAtalk] Razor Compatability

2002-06-26 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Sun, Jun 16, 2002 at 05:30:52PM -0400, Theo Van Dinter wrote: > To remove the extra debugging output one needs to comment out line 164 > in Signature/Ephemeral.pm > > --- lib/Razor2/Signature/Ephemeral.pm,origSun Jun 16 13:22:22 2002 > +++ lib/Razor2/Signature/Ephemeral.pm Sun Jun 16 13:18

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Fw: Hi, it's Nadia. please come talk with me.. I have a webcam

2002-06-26 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 11:11:20PM -0500, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: > Your setup must be odd. Your message got -1.4 on my site, but I have > a SALIST rule scoring -10. If you hadn't sent it to the list it would You should put -100, some messages I've received here have scored as much as 50+

Re: [SAtalk] Share / Contribute our site local.cf settings

2002-06-26 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 12:07:36PM -0500, Smart, Dan wrote: > header RCVD_IN_FIVETEN eval:check_rbl('relay', 'blackholes.five-ten-sg.com') Note that you should starting using > header RCVD_IN_FIVETEN rbleval:check_rbl('relay', >'blackholes.five-ten-sg.com') RBLs are run in a d

Re: [SAtalk] Some problems with Win32 Perl and SA 2.30

2002-06-15 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Sat, Jun 15, 2002 at 08:33:15PM -0700, Michael Bell wrote: > These are all new: > > 1. Time::Hires required (or at least reported to be required when I > run Perl makefile.pl) Yeah, we're still trying to make it optional. The code is designed to work without it, just remove "use Time::Hires"

Re: [SAtalk] DNSBL Not working??

2002-06-15 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Sat, Jun 15, 2002 at 12:23:35AM -0700, Jim Scott wrote: > Just upgraded my test box and while running in debug mode I am seeing these > messages. Does this indicate that it is not looking up these lists? I looked > in 50_scores.cf and they are not set to 0. Is there some setting now that > you

Re: [SAtalk] Time::HiRes

2002-06-14 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Tue, Jun 11, 2002 at 10:17:52PM -0700, Bart Schaefer wrote: > In SpamAssassin.pm I see: > > # Let's not make this required -- Marc > #eval { require Time::HiRes }; > #Time::HiRes->import( qw(time) ) unless $@; > # Unfortunately, the above doesn't work, please FIXME > use Time::HiRes qw ( time

Re: [SAtalk] Newbee's question: seem long to check an email, and spamd

2002-06-14 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Tue, Jun 11, 2002 at 04:36:06PM -0400, Weidong Wang wrote: > Hi, I just installed spamassassin, as it looks very promising. > > One thing I noticed is that checking a mail (the sample-spam.txt one, 4K) > one takes over 1 minute. At first I thought it is razor, as I noticed during > "make test"

Re: [SAtalk] spamass -> SA or SpamAssassin

2002-06-14 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 01:18:52PM -0500, matthew ward wrote: > i'm using the spamass milter. Is the milter actually called "spamass" ? Would someone ask the author if he/she'd consider using SA or SpamAssassin. Spam_ASS_ just doesn't sound like a great abbreviation... Marc -- "A mouse is a d

Re: [SAtalk] SA with Exim

2002-06-14 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Tue, Jun 11, 2002 at 08:31:17AM -0500, Saul Guttman wrote: > Hi, > > I have Exim with SA running at SMTP time. I am testing this to see if I Since there's lots of mail here already, you're probably better off using the sa-exim list http://lists.merlins.org/lists/listinfo/sa-exim so that we

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Re: Re: spamc message size limits

2002-06-14 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Tue, Jun 11, 2002 at 12:14:54PM -0500, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: > | >Subject: ?? > ^^ > It's not a valid message. No RFC allows 8bit characters in message > headers. Recent postfix snapshots have a strict_7bit_headers option > to

Re: [SAtalk] Stalling Spammers at SMTP time.

2002-06-14 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 11:15:58PM -0700, Marc MERLIN wrote: > On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 10:03:54PM -0700, Jeremy Zawodny wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 09:40:17PM -0700, Marc MERLIN wrote: > > > > > I think I'm also going to add an option to just stall the SM

Re: [SAtalk] Replying to list???

2002-06-13 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Thu, Jun 13, 2002 at 01:59:52PM -0700, Jim Scott wrote: > How come this list does not have the reply to: set to the spamassassin list? > Every time I want to reply to the list I have to type in the email address. http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=6693&group_id=1 Marc -- "A

Re: [SAtalk] spamass-milter - what's the point?

2002-06-06 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 10:03:54PM -0700, Jeremy Zawodny wrote: > On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 09:40:17PM -0700, Marc MERLIN wrote: > > > I think I'm also going to add an option to just stall the SMTP > > connection and never return ok (I don't plan to use that feature

Re: [SAtalk] spamass-milter - what's the point?

2002-06-06 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Wed, May 29, 2002 at 04:42:28PM +0100, Keith Whyte wrote: > I thought that the milter was going to actually tell the sendmail and thus > the sender that the spam was detected and drop the SMTP session, but it > just accepts it and sends it on. You can do that with my sa-exim patch for exim:

Re: [SAtalk] Announce: Fixed RBLs / RBL timeouts / Time logging / Debug framework

2002-06-05 Thread Marc MERLIN
Silly me, I screwed up, my previous mail was sent with a completely invalid Email, I do not work for mail-abuse.org Please answer to this one or your copy to the bad address will bounce [Sent to Talk & Devel lists, please trim Cc when you answer] First, I need to apologize for sending all this

[SAtalk] Announce: Fixed RBLs / RBL timeouts / Time logging / Debug framework

2002-06-05 Thread Marc MERLIN
[Sent to Talk & Devel lists, please trim Cc when you answer] First, I need to apologize for sending all this mixed in one patch: - I did send two of these separately earlier here - The patches are somewhat interleaved, so splitting them would have meant writing multiple versions - I didn't have

Re: [SAtalk] patch: overhauled RBL query and result gathering code

2002-05-31 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Wed, May 29, 2002 at 05:31:59PM -0700, Craig R Hughes wrote: > Marc, looks very interesting -- I'd like to take a bit of a better look at > it, and probably commit it. Could you attach the patchfile to a bugzilla > report so I don't have to: Don't worry, I had planned to submit a patch (al

Re: [SAtalk] Dumping email with spamass-milter

2002-05-28 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 05:21:39PM -0500, Eric Six wrote: > > Is there a way to dump all "spam" email to a file or redirect it to another > user account? I am using the latest spamass-milter for spamassassin. Before > I can implement this company wide, we want to be able to see how much real > ma

[SAtalk] patch: overhauled RBL query and result gathering code

2002-05-27 Thread Marc MERLIN
So, why did I have to write this patch? 1) I use MAPS DUL and relays.osirusoft.com, which also has a DUL section. The problem is that I had machines that were being penalized twice for being on more than one DUL. This actually let to some non SPAM being reported as spam more than once

[SAtalk] Problem with rule sorting in SA 2.21

2002-05-27 Thread Marc MERLIN
Ok, so SA 2.21 sorts the rules by score in an attempt to stop scanning the message if the user specified a scan threshold Unfortunately, this completely breaks rule dependencies. Granted, those are mostly (only?) RBL rules for now, but rule dependency is needed somewhere. Let me quote 20_head_

Re: [SAtalk] SA 2.21 nightly body rule compile fail

2002-05-27 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 08:22:32PM -0700, Bart Schaefer wrote: > On Mon, 27 May 2002, Marc MERLIN wrote: > > > This rule was apparently missing the trailing ')' > > The missing paren doesn't belong at the end, unfortunately. > > See bugzilla.spamassa

[SAtalk] SA 2.21 nightly body rule compile fail

2002-05-27 Thread Marc MERLIN
This rule was apparently missing the trailing ')' in the version I just downloaded. body PORN_10 /\b(?:lolita|slut|whore|(?:[^x]|\b)xxx(?:[^x]|\b)|porn|(?:Asian|Japanese|oriental)\s+(?:girls|schoolgirls)\b|babes\b|gang[ -]?bang|skank|tits\b|titties\b|pussy\b|pussies\b|bi

Re: [SAtalk] botched MIME tests?

2002-05-24 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Fri, May 24, 2002 at 09:06:43AM -0700, Marc MERLIN wrote: > > Its lame, I no longer use it much myself (theres a couple of places its > > not been removed from) even though I wrote the thing, but its cheap > > (money and MTA resources) and suprisingly effective against things

Re: [SAtalk] botched MIME tests?

2002-05-24 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Fri, May 24, 2002 at 10:01:15AM +0100, Nigel Metheringham wrote: > > You'd have thought the least a header regexp would do is bind to the > > start of the line! > > The problem with the exim filter stuff is it was never designed to be > able to do this and it *can't* bind to start of line (th

Re: [SAtalk] botched MIME tests?

2002-05-23 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Mon, May 20, 2002 at 09:59:55AM +0100, Matt Sergeant wrote: > Ugh, looks like SourceForge installed a lame text filter that attempts > to do virus protection (incorrectly, brokenly)... So my email didn't get > through. Just in case you are curious, it's the "standard" exim mime filter, and

Re: [SAtalk] Lookups on received lines

2002-05-19 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Sun, May 19, 2002 at 10:41:56AM -0700, Craig R Hughes wrote: > Marc, > > I think properly you should check there's no dialup IP *except* for the first > one in the chain. ie not just the last hop before you, but any hop along the > way, other than the very first. That's a very good point, th

Re: [SAtalk] SA config based on recipient domain (spamd/spamc)

2002-05-18 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Fri, May 17, 2002 at 02:42:00PM +0100, Mark Lowes wrote: > On Fri, 2002-05-17 at 14:30, Rick Macdougall wrote: > >> From: "Mark Lowes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> I'm trying to get SA working here and want to try and get configuration > >> on a per domain rather than a per-user basis. Has anyone

Re: [SAtalk] SpamAssassin on firewall or relay box

2002-05-18 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Thu, May 16, 2002 at 09:51:48AM -0500, dman wrote: > | the easiest to setup/manage with SpamAssassin as a relay box - Exim, > | Postfix, Sendmail, Qmail, ...? > > Exim with Marc's sa-exim patch would be the easiest way to implement > this. You would just configure exim as usual (for a rel

Re: [SAtalk] Lookups on received lines

2002-05-15 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Fri, May 10, 2002 at 01:42:01AM -0700, Marc MERLIN wrote: > I believe I've asked this before, but it's biting me too often and I haven't > yet found an answer to this: Ok, so I'll take the lack of answer as "yes this is known, no, no fix yet" I'm wi

Re: [SAtalk] New Announcements Mailing List

2002-05-13 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Mon, May 13, 2002 at 08:32:48AM -0300, Derek Broughton wrote: > The one available from the sourceforge.net/projects/spamassassin page? It > asks me for a userid & password. I don't mind helping you out with a > survey, but I'm not going through the rigmarole of creating yet another > login ID

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Thinking of performance

2002-05-13 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Mon, May 13, 2002 at 07:21:05PM +1000, Daniel Pittman wrote: > > Yep. Running spamproxyd is really not an option for most of us. > > You lose (if I'm not mistaken) > > - SMTP AUTH > > Nope, at least not with my model. Admittedly this /is/ vaporware > because I don't need it, but it would work

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Thinking of performance

2002-05-13 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Mon, May 13, 2002 at 11:35:40AM +0200, Jesus Climent wrote: > Having a strict configuration in my MTA (not allowing the use of our > domain for mail not coming from localhost), I do not want to check mail > in MTA level (using spamd/c) originated in my own system. SA-Exim lets you do that and

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Thinking of performance

2002-05-12 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Sun, May 12, 2002 at 08:57:21PM -0700, Marc MERLIN wrote: > Yep. Running spamproxyd is really not an option for most of us. > You lose (if I'm not mistaken) > - SMTP AUTH > - STARTTLS/SSL > - The IP of the real sender Sorry, I meant: the ability to block senders by IP f

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Thinking of performance

2002-05-12 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Sun, May 12, 2002 at 08:48:41PM -0700, Marc MERLIN wrote: > > What about using the bgsend/bgisready functionality in Net::DNS? That > > should allow multiple queries in the background in parallel. > > Sounds like a great idea, I wasn't aware of the functionality. &

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Thinking of performance

2002-05-12 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Mon, May 13, 2002 at 11:52:23AM +1200, Jason Haar wrote: > I'd suggest the opposite is better: have the real MTA relay it to > spamproxyd. If you do it your way, you've just lost all anti-relaying > protection... Yep. Running spamproxyd is really not an option for most of us. You lose (if I'm

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Thinking of performance

2002-05-12 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Sun, May 12, 2002 at 09:53:51AM -0500, Nathan Neulinger wrote: > > > However, since we're going to do up to 10 queries, and each can be blocking, > > wouldn't it be better to fork for each DNS lookup (even optionally) and kill > > the children if the DNS query hasn't returned in x seconds? > >

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Thinking of performance

2002-05-12 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Sun, May 12, 2002 at 05:28:27PM +1000, Daniel Pittman wrote: > > However, since we're going to do up to 10 queries, and each can be > > blocking, wouldn't it be better to fork for each DNS lookup (even > > optionally) and kill the children if the DNS query hasn't returned in > > x seconds? >

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Thinking of performance

2002-05-11 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Sat, May 11, 2002 at 02:26:55PM -0500, dman wrote: > This completely depends. First you MUST *profile* to determine where > the hotspots are. Maybe _those_ pieces of the program would be better > in C or ASM. Remember that 90% of the execution time is spent in 10% > of the code (generally).

Re: [SAtalk] X-Spam headers: single line or multiline?

2002-05-11 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Sat, May 11, 2002 at 12:19:28PM -0700, Craig R Hughes wrote: > Marc MERLIN wrote: > > MM> I wrote my sa-exim code with the understanding that all the X-Spam headers > MM> were single line, with the exception of X-Spam-Report: > MM> Is this correct and therefore do

[SAtalk] Lookups on received lines

2002-05-10 Thread Marc MERLIN
I believe I've asked this before, but it's biting me too often and I haven't yet found an answer to this: Let's take the following (complete) Received headers: Received: from scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net ([207.217.120.49]:34177 helo=scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net)

[SAtalk] X-Spam headers: single line or multiline?

2002-05-10 Thread Marc MERLIN
I (apparently) received this from spamc: (not reformatted by my mail client) - Forwarded message - X-Spam-Status: Yes, hits=9.4 required=7.0 tests=X_EM_VER_PRESENT,NO_REAL_NAME,CTYPE_JUST_HTML,KNOWN_BAD_DIALUPS,RCVD_IN_OSIRUSOFT_COM,RCVD_IN_VADUL version=2.20 X-Spam-Flag

[SAtalk] VERY_SUSP_RECIPS

2002-04-16 Thread Marc MERLIN
I'm trying to understand if VERY_SUSP_RECIPS in SA 2.11 does that it's supposed to do. Consider the following headers which triggered VERY_SUSP_RECIPS: From: "Name" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Name 2" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Name 3" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Name 4" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,

[SAtalk] How does SA decide which IPs to check against DULs?

2002-04-01 Thread Marc MERLIN
I was able to get my mail server to add a special header for people who relay mail through me from dialup IPs after having done an SMTP AUTH, so their mail doesn't get flagged by SA anymore (since I have an SA rule to add a -100 if the auth header is present) However, from time to time,

Re: [SAtalk] Option to add spamassassin heuristics details in the body

2002-03-27 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 01:14:40AM -0800, Craig Hughes wrote: > Right, but you can already do that with report_header > > perldoc Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf > > if you didn't find those docs yet. Ahah, I was looking for this after reading about thisthe main readme --- Take a look at the "Mail_Spa

Re: [SAtalk] flagging messages from dialup IPs?

2002-03-27 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 01:12:28AM -0800, Craig Hughes wrote: > On Tue, 2002-03-26 at 17:20, Marc MERLIN wrote: > > Is spamassassin actually giving a combined 3.5 score to any mail that > > originated from a dialup IP, even if it was properly relayed through an > &

[SAtalk] flagging messages from dialup IPs?

2002-03-26 Thread Marc MERLIN
I'm confused about this Received: from maynard.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.243]) by mail.vasoftware.com with esmtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 16q0IX-0007Fw-00 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 15:24:13 -0800 Received: from sdn-ar-001casfrmp092.dialsprin

Re: [SAtalk] Option to add spamassassin heuristics details in the body

2002-03-26 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 05:15:14PM -0800, Craig Hughes wrote: > A way better solution to this is to fix bug #18/#130; then the report if > added to the body would be a MIME part and wouldn't clobber anything. Would be nice, but I think I still have users who want the body optionally not to be a

[SAtalk] Option to add spamassassin heuristics details in the body

2002-03-26 Thread Marc MERLIN
Hi, I'm currently evaluating spamassassin (which may actually end up on sourceforge.net if the server can spare the extra resources to scan all inbound mail), and I have a user request which makes sense: Could we have a tri flag to control whether spamassassin adds info on why it f