Re: [SAtalk] Recent trend in spaming tactics

2003-09-27 Thread Carlo Wood
On Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 11:38:15PM -0400, Matt Kettler wrote: > >Many spammers are using paypal.com to get their emails "whitelisted". Also I noted this too. It doesn't seem like a good idea therefore that spamassassin comes with a pre-built whitelist; it makes it too easy for abusers to know whi

Re: [SAtalk] microsoft worm - working solution

2003-09-20 Thread Carlo Wood
That filters a lot more than just the worm. The MDS_Swen_A will be true with only one of MDS_Swen_A_3, MDS_Swen_A_6 or MDS_Swen_A_7 is true. Now each of those ALONE already filter millions of legal mail away that you might want to receive. -- Carlo Wood <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: [SAtalk] no spam today uses SA?

2003-09-15 Thread Carlo Wood
ary distribution. If they don't, we should tell the FSF about it. -- Carlo Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf

Re: [SAtalk] No BAYES_* ?

2003-09-12 Thread Carlo Wood
rt to make a backup copy inside the cron job, prior to executing the sa-learn command. -- Carlo Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek h

Re: [SAtalk] No BAYES_* ?

2003-09-11 Thread Carlo Wood
-Qmail-Scanner-1.16:" etc is spammy, but it is not! It is a header that qmail adds to ALL my mail?! -- Carlo Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/

Re: [SAtalk] No BAYES_* ?

2003-09-10 Thread Carlo Wood
On Wed, Sep 10, 2003 at 10:36:33AM -0400, Matt Kettler wrote: > At 03:55 PM 9/10/03 +0200, Carlo Wood wrote: > >The attached mail got through spam-assassin without a problem... > >Why? Where is the BAYES_* test? > >Does this mean that the bayes engine thinks this is less tha

Re: [SAtalk] No BAYES_* ?

2003-09-10 Thread Carlo Wood
On Wed, Sep 10, 2003 at 03:55:41PM +0200, Carlo Wood wrote: > The attached mail got through spam-assassin without a problem... > Why? Where is the BAYES_* test? It turns out that NO mail is having the BAYES_* test anymore all of a sudden... Why? How can I debug what is going on

[SAtalk] No BAYES_* ?

2003-09-10 Thread Carlo Wood
The attached mail got through spam-assassin without a problem... Why? Where is the BAYES_* test? Does this mean that the bayes engine thinks this is less than 10% chance to be spam? That would be ridiculous! How can I test on which keywords it is basing that this ham? -- Carlo Wood <[EM

Re: [SAtalk] I want SA to handle mailinglists. Need some creativity here.

2003-09-07 Thread Carlo Wood
lter your mail anyway, this is not an SA problem: SA just marks whether or not a mail is spam. -- Carlo Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to

Re: [SAtalk] SpamAssassin with Pyzor & DCC using Qmail-Scanner

2003-09-06 Thread Carlo Wood
/usr/bin/spamd --debug -x -L -u spamc > > The spamc user does exist and its home directory is /opt/spamassassin. When > I issue the spamc command manually, it does not user pyzor or dcc. Any > thoughts? Remove the -L, that makes spamd skip any network tests, including the pyzor/dcc one

Re: [SAtalk] Another Keyword for Spam

2003-09-05 Thread Carlo Wood
e i is written as í), which also wasn't detected. > > Markus Moreover, spamassassin should imho treat the characters Ee3 as the same, likewise Ss5$, Ii1|!, Oo0 Aa@ etc etc, when looking for really spammy keywords. It starts to be common practise that spammers try to avoid automatic rec

Re: [SAtalk] bayes filter: learn and forget

2003-09-04 Thread Carlo Wood
sage once and only forgets it when it already knew it. If it learned it as spam and you learn it again as ham or visa versa then it also works. -- Carlo Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to g

Re: [SAtalk] why so low

2003-09-04 Thread Carlo Wood
U_DUL 0 score X_OSIRU_DUL_FH0 score X_OSIRU_OPEN_RELAY0 score X_OSIRU_SPAMWARE_SITE 0 score X_OSIRU_SPAM_SRC 0 -- Carlo Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- This sf.net email is spo

Re: [SAtalk] Very Slow when using SpamAssassin

2003-09-03 Thread Carlo Wood
y waiting for some network query. Try adding this to /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf : skip_rbl_checks 1 use_razor2 0 use_dcc 0 use_pyzor 0 Or run spamd or spamassassin (which ever you use) with the -L flag. And see if that helps. -- Carlo Woo

Re: [SAtalk] System goes down

2003-09-02 Thread Carlo Wood
ng connections (8) (a command line parameter of tcpserver) as well as the maximum number of remote deliveries (5) and -why not- the local deliveries (5). Those where respectively 20, 20 and 10. -- Carlo Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- Thi

Re: [SAtalk] System goes down

2003-09-02 Thread Carlo Wood
issue. > Try the -m switch. Also thanks! Another very valuable hint. Damn, and I really have read the man page of spamd in the past but had forgotten about this possibility completely. -- Carlo Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- Th

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes and whitelisting

2003-09-02 Thread Carlo Wood
ct spam? ? I mean: I started to use SA and run that on the machine that is also running the firewall. That way my working machine is not loaded anymore. -- Carlo Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek

Re: [SAtalk] System goes down

2003-09-02 Thread Carlo Wood
sh -c /usr/bin/spamc -f < /var/spool/qmailscan/working/new/alinoe.co qmailq4541 0.0 0.8 2216 1028 ?D16:52 0:00 sh -c /usr/bin/spamc -f < /var/spool/qmailscan/working/new/alinoe.co -- Carlo Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -

Re: [SAtalk] System goes down

2003-09-02 Thread Carlo Wood
On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 04:04:45PM +0200, Kandji Développeur wrote: > Hello, > > I've been using spamassassin for 2 weeks and it (*seems*) that it caused my system > to go down... > > The story : > linux RedHat 7.3 - kernel 2.4.18#3 on smp system (2xPII) > perl 5.6.1 > spamassassin version 2.

Re: [SAtalk] bayes feedback

2003-09-02 Thread Carlo Wood
I read here that bayes is only turned on after it learned from at least 200 spams AND 200 hams. That number could be more. It only starts to be efficient after you got say 1000 of both. Once it kicks in, you should see tests with names like BAYES_*. -- Carlo Wood <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes and whitelisting

2003-09-02 Thread Carlo Wood
olearned by the Bayesian engine, and there is no support for that. I think I can work around this by abusing the existing tflags, but it would be better if a new flag was added for this particular purpose. -- Carlo Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes and whitelisting

2003-09-02 Thread Carlo Wood
s/tokens and that does screw up the Bayesian database when learning it as spam. Perhaps a 'never_autolearn_whitelist_to' should be added? -- Carlo Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGe

Re: [SAtalk] Bug: Failed to create default user preference file //.spamassassin/user_prefs

2003-09-02 Thread Carlo Wood
1323008 Sep 2 01:38 /usr/spamassassin/bayes_seen -rw-rw-rw-1 nobody nobody2666496 Sep 2 01:38 /usr/spamassassin/bayes_toks The 'nobody' owned files were changed by cron. It works just fine thus. -- Carlo Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ---

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes and whitelisting

2003-09-01 Thread Carlo Wood
o assume that white listed mail is still classified / auto-learned. I'd suggest an explicit mention under 'whitelist_from' et al that matched mails will not be auto-learned. -- Carlo Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ---

Re: [SAtalk] SQL

2003-09-01 Thread Carlo Wood
: What happens when you use a REAL mail, not just plain text thus. -- Carlo Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes and whitelisting

2003-09-01 Thread Carlo Wood
tion option that will cause SA to NOT auto-learn anything that is whitelisted. -- Carlo Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http:/

[SAtalk] Bayes and whitelisting

2003-09-01 Thread Carlo Wood
, resulting in it automatically being added as 'ham'. What is it that SA (2.55) does? I've white listed *this* mailinglist for example, but I really don't want it to be classified as ham! Regards, -- Carlo Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -

Re: [SAtalk] Bug: Failed to create default user preference file //.spamassassin/user_prefs

2003-09-01 Thread Carlo Wood
On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 12:35:23PM -0400, Matt Kettler wrote: > At 01:50 PM 8/31/2003 +0200, Carlo Wood wrote: > >What does it use to determine the users home directory? > > SpamAssassin uses ~/ to determine the home directory of the current user. > And yes, that is standard

[SAtalk] Bug: Failed to create default user preference file //.spamassassin/user_prefs

2003-08-31 Thread Carlo Wood
home directory? -- Carlo Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ Spamassassin-talk mailing list [EMAIL PROTE

Re: [SAtalk] Spamassassin in vhost env

2003-08-31 Thread Carlo Wood
On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 12:52:14AM +0200, Alexander Newald wrote: > /home/vhost/.spamassassin/bayes_toks) I also didn't manage to get userprefs > from db. What about the -u option of spamc? -- Carlo Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn: Does --forget ignore the headers? (Attempt 2)

2003-08-30 Thread Carlo Wood
On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 01:45:05PM +0200, Carlo Wood wrote: > > Question: Will the Basesian filters be correctly > > adjusted, despite the change of headers? I figured it out. The answer is yes. It only looks at the Message-Id. -- Carlo Wood <[

[SAtalk] New test proposal

2003-08-30 Thread Carlo Wood
A spam sneeked through. It contained this in the header: Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 04:20:56 +0300 (IDT) Date-warning: Date header was inserted by mxout2.netvision.net.il I think there should be a test on the latter header entry that adds extra points. -- Carlo Wood <[EMAIL PROTEC

[SAtalk] sa-learn: Does --forget ignore the headers? (Attempt 2)

2003-08-30 Thread Carlo Wood
Can someone please answer this mail that I posted a few days ago? On Fri, Aug 29, 2003 at 01:00:45AM +0200, Carlo Wood wrote: > I have the following setup: > > 1) Firewall receives mail, pipes it through >spamd and adds a header marking it as >spam. > 2) Firewall send

[SAtalk] Wrong score for Message-ID

2003-08-29 Thread Carlo Wood
K_TIME (4.4 points) Message-Id is fake (in Outlook Express format) Isn't 13 points for *just* the message ID not a bit much? -- Carlo Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. htt

[SAtalk] sa-learn: Does --forget ignore the headers?

2003-08-28 Thread Carlo Wood
ter (except for the message-ID) and the (mime) encapsulation and extra new-lines etc won't matter either. But does it work like that? -- Carlo Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:T

Re: [SAtalk] RBL

2003-08-28 Thread Carlo Wood
nything that looks like a RBL test. Still uncertain about whether it works, -- Carlo Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PS I removed [EMAIL PROTECTED] from the CC because his mail server says that that user doesn't exist. --- This sf.net e

Re: [SAtalk] RBL

2003-08-28 Thread Carlo Wood
t installed that perl stuff, will it just work now? (After restarting spamd). There clearly is no way to verify it :/ -- Carlo Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http:/

Re: [SAtalk] Scores for OSIRU Tests

2003-08-28 Thread Carlo Wood
of osirius at all anymore. Thanks -- Carlo Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ Spamassassin-talk maili

Re: [SAtalk] RBL

2003-08-28 Thread Carlo Wood
ing the -L commandline parameter on either spamassassin or spamd. -- Carlo Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ Sp

Re: [SAtalk] Spammer fights back!

2003-08-28 Thread Carlo Wood
out of the screen, or use an extremely small font. Or the words could be part of a construct that is never displayed at all, not limited to HTML comments. In order to detect that you'd need a fullfledged HTML decoder... this is going to eat a lot of cpu :( -- Carlo Wood <[EMAI

Re: [SAtalk] FW: Best Child Pornography Site

2003-08-28 Thread Carlo Wood
ffend. A mail containing the literal phrase "child pornography" is more probably a serious mail about the topic than that will be any kind of advertisement. -- Carlo Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- This sf.net email i

Re: [SAtalk] Message ID

2003-08-27 Thread &#x27;Carlo Wood'
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 02:03:59PM +0200, 'Carlo Wood' wrote: > I'll carefully make a new list that I will post later. Ok, I now did it correctly - using an awk program. Number of hams: 4548 Number of hams without '^(X-[Mm]ailer|User-Agent):': 1833 Number of Mess

Re: [SAtalk] Message ID

2003-08-26 Thread &#x27;Carlo Wood'
to find 10 people with large collections of the past 5 years. Getting large collections of spam shouldn't be too hard, you probably have them already - don't you? Typical mailinglist mails are not hard to get either, if you are only concerned with the body content. -- Carlo Wood <[EMA

Re: [SAtalk] Message ID

2003-08-26 Thread &#x27;Carlo Wood'
entry. I am sorry! That makes the whole list void because then message-ids and X-mailer lines were mixed from different messages. I'll carefully make a new list that I will post later. -- Carlo Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- This SF.net

Re: [SAtalk] No X-Spam-Report header line?!

2003-08-26 Thread Carlo Wood
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 10:32:51AM -0400, Matt Kettler wrote: > What are you doing to call spamc? Ah, thanks. I found it - was calling "spamc -c -f". After removing the "-c", it worked. -- Carlo Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --

Re: [SAtalk] Message ID

2003-08-26 Thread Carlo Wood
D]> Where, I think, the part after the '@' is the hostname without domain. After all... >hostname ansset -- Carlo Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: VM Ware With VMware you can run multiple op

[SAtalk] No X-Spam-Report header line?!

2003-08-26 Thread Carlo Wood
us: Yes, hits=5.8 required=5.0 for the rest the mail is unaltered. I really need the X-Spam-Report: lines! Please help. -- Carlo Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: VM Ware With VMware you can run multiple o

Re: [SAtalk] 2.41/2.50 spamd/spamc problem

2002-09-12 Thread Carlo Wood
will CORRUPT EVERY SINGLE MESSAGE." Therefore I'd like to be sure that whatever "-F 0" did is still done. But how? -- Carlo Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Wel