Re: [SAtalk] FW: VJ, the world from

2003-12-22 Thread Robert Menschel
Hello Jennifer, Monday, December 22, 2003, 2:32:45 PM, you wrote: JF> I am so sick of these spam emails but not sure how to stop them. Could JF> anyone give me any guidance? I am currently using sa 2.55 and planning JF> to upgrade to 2.61 next week. The rules I'm using (2.60, should work OK in

Re: [SAtalk] X-Spam-level question

2003-12-22 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Fri, Dec 19, 2003 at 10:27:01AM -0800, Don Caprio wrote: > This email had a rating of 5.3 however the X-Spam-Level: only has two > stars? > > Anyone know what's up with this? I could have sworn this was in the FAQ. The problem is that the message is being filtered through SpamAssassin twice.

[SAtalk] Re: [AMaViS-user] amavisd-new + spamassassin question

2003-12-22 Thread Mark Martinec
Joao Reis, | Dec 22 10:04:50 socrates amavis[12387]: (12387-04) SA TIMED OUT, | backtrace: at | /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0/Mail/SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm line | 1489\n\teval {...} called at | /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0/Mail/SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm line | 1489\n\tMail::SpamAssas

[SAtalk] X-Spam-level question

2003-12-22 Thread Don Caprio
Newbe to postfix/spamassassin here, so be gentle. I just added spamassassin to my postfix installation on a solaris server. I'm seeing a problem where the score does not match the X-Spam-level. i.e. ... X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.61 (1.212.2.1-2003-12-09-exp) on dcms.com X

Re: [SAtalk] Excessive amavisd memory use with spamassasin 2.6 on ppc platform

2003-12-22 Thread Mike Vanecek
On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 21:21:02 +, Iain Stevenson wrote > System: > > Linux ppc (basicallu Yellowdog), 2.4.21 kernel > Postfix > amavisd-new-20030314 > spamassassin 2.6 or 2.61 > clamav-0.65 > > System is configured to use the spamd interface to spamassassin. If > I install the 2.6 or 2.61 ver

[SAtalk] Strange DNSBL problem with spamassassin

2003-12-22 Thread Robert Lacroix
Hi all, I have a strange problem with SpamAssassin and I can't find out a solution to this: We use a McAfee Webshield SMTP in front of my IMail server, that scans for viruses and passes emails to IMail which runs on another port than 25. IMail analyzes the email then using spamc/spam. When a clien

Re: [SAtalk] Amuseing hidden text in spam

2003-12-22 Thread Anthony Martinez
On Mon, Dec 22, 2003 at 11:00:52AM -0500, Christopher X. Candreva carved this out of pure phosphors: > > And, anyone know what the x-stuff-for-pete I often see in spam is from ? Eudora adds that to HTML mail for reasons known only to Pete. > >

[SAtalk] Re: Running sa-learn while SpamAssassin is checking mail: Bayes lock problem?

2003-12-22 Thread Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
Nix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The spam-checking process skips the Bayes-checking if the database is > locked (as blcoking on that lock for a long time would be a very bad > idea). This warning message is just saying that Bayes was skipped. Right, so it's no catastrophe. But it does mean that

Re: [SAtalk] Problem running sa-learn

2003-12-22 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Mon, Dec 22, 2003 at 05:50:24PM -0600, Rachael Stewart wrote: > I have SA 2.61 running on RedHat 8. I've compiled a set of spam and ham > messages (using Pine) for the Bayes seed, but I'm having trouble with > the initial call to sa-learn. Has anyone seen this before? Do you have the MIME::Base

[SAtalk] Problem running sa-learn

2003-12-22 Thread Rachael Stewart
Hello, I have SA 2.61 running on RedHat 8. I've compiled a set of spam and ham messages (using Pine) for the Bayes seed, but I'm having trouble with the initial call to sa-learn. Has anyone seen this before? [EMAIL PROTECTED] --showdots --mbox --ham ham ...

Re: [SAtalk] bigevil.cf

2003-12-22 Thread Rubin Bennett
That's correct. Rubin On Mon, 2003-12-22 at 17:59, Eric Six wrote: > According to what I have read, all you have to do is drop bigevil.cf into > /etc/mail/spamassassin and restart spamd. Is that correct or do I need to make any > configuration changes to tell SA to use this cf file? > > TIA > E

[SAtalk] bigevil.cf

2003-12-22 Thread Eric Six
According to what I have read, all you have to do is drop bigevil.cf into /etc/mail/spamassassin and restart spamd. Is that correct or do I need to make any configuration changes to tell SA to use this cf file? TIA Eric --- This SF.net email

Re: [SAtalk] FW: VJ, the world from

2003-12-22 Thread Matt Kettler
At 05:32 PM 12/22/2003, Jennifer Fountain wrote: I am so sick of these spam emails but not sure how to stop them. Could anyone give me any guidance? I am currently using sa 2.55 and planning to upgrade to 2.61 next week. Thanks for any info! Free Cable Looks like a good job for Chris S's po

Re: [SAtalk] tags in text

2003-12-22 Thread scion+spamas
From: "Jennifer Wheeler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 15:01:25 -0500 >http://www.emtinc.net/spamhammers.htm Indeed, yours was one of the places I *had* looked. Forgive me if I'm confused, but it seems that your rules are looking for a variety of tag patterns. E.g. frobnozdigibbet a

[SAtalk] FW: VJ, the world from

2003-12-22 Thread Jennifer Fountain
Title: Message I am so sick of these spam emails but not sure how to stop them.  Could anyone give me any guidance?  I am currently using sa 2.55 and planning to upgrade to 2.61 next week.   Thanks for any info! Jenn -Original Message-From: Rosales [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [SAtalk] Bigevil 2.05d posted and regex question....

2003-12-22 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
Chris Santerre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If I work the regex even further so it reads: > > (?:domain1|domain2|domain3)\.com > > rather then: > > (?:domain1\.com|domain2\.com|domain3\.com) > > Will it run even faster? Less memory? Or is it a tradeoff between the two? In fact, looking at my cop

Re: [SAtalk] SpamAssassin Install Help

2003-12-22 Thread Dan Abernathy
Mike, If you're installing on a Windows box (to integrate with GroupWise/Guinevere or whatever), use Perl 5.6.1 instead of 5.8. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials. Become an expert in LINUX or just sharpen your skills.

Re: [SAtalk] why did this not get tagged with date in future?

2003-12-22 Thread Matt Kettler
At 01:51 PM 12/22/2003, mairhtin wrote: Can anyone tell me why this did not get tagged? It clearly states that the date is thursday jan 01. Does the date header not get checked? Mairhtin I believe that SA does not look for a date in the future relative to the current local system time, it lo

Re: [SAtalk] How to include rules such as bigevil

2003-12-22 Thread Martin Radford
At Mon Dec 22 14:15:45 2003, Ian Duncalf wrote: > > Forgive me if I what I am asking is obvious to some but I would like to know > how to use some of the rule sets that available e.g. bigevil.cf and > http://www.merchantsoverseas.com/wwwroot/gorilla/90_FVGT.cf etc. > > I am running SpamAssassin v

Re: [SAtalk] SpamAssassin Install Help

2003-12-22 Thread Matt Kettler
At 01:58 PM 12/22/2003, Mike Schultz wrote: When I go to the Spam Assassin directory and type perl makefile.pl it works fine and asks for email or url to suspect spam report. then it said file good, Writing makefile for mail::spamassassin, makefile written by ExtUtils::MakeMake 6.17. Then when

[SAtalk] Bigevil 2.05d posted and regex question....

2003-12-22 Thread Chris Santerre
Updated from this weekends spam. That one Guy selling the Vdrug had about 8 more domains. If I work the regex even further so it reads: (?:domain1|domain2|domain3)\.com rather then: (?:domain1\.com|domain2\.com|domain3\.com) Will it run even faster? Less memory? Or is it a tradeoff between th

Re: [SAtalk] BAYES_xx not showing up in spam??

2003-12-22 Thread Dave Kliczbor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Barton L. Phillips wrote: > I never seem to see any BAYES_xx tests in any of my spam. I have seen a > couple in ham but not many. I have autolearn on and have a few entries > in my bayes files as shown by sa-learn --dump: 912 spam, 102 ham, 50876 > tok

Re: [SAtalk] X-MT-nn: header (variable headers in general)

2003-12-22 Thread Brent J. Nordquist
On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, Brent J. Nordquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've noticed several messages (all spam) with this header: > > X-MT-17: 1906684 > X-MT-25: 1906684 > etc. > > Is there a way to write a rule that tests for a header whose name > matches a certain pattern? OK, thanks to Robert

RE: [SAtalk] tags in text

2003-12-22 Thread Jennifer Wheeler
Hi Sam, > > Probably haven't look hard enough, but has anyone > used a rule to detect (real or pseudo) HTML tags > embedded in text. Ostensibly they're there to > throw off bayes and other pattern matchers. > > I just put up: > > rawbody TAG_IN_TEXT /[a-zA-Z0-9]+\<\/*[a-zA-Z0-9]*\>[a-zA-Z0-

[SAtalk] tags in text

2003-12-22 Thread scion+spamas
Probably haven't look hard enough, but has anyone used a rule to detect (real or pseudo) HTML tags embedded in text. Ostensibly they're there to throw off bayes and other pattern matchers. I just put up: rawbody TAG_IN_TEXT /[a-zA-Z0-9]+\<\/*[a-zA-Z0-9]*\>[a-zA-Z0-9]+/ describe TAG_IN_TEX

Re: [SAtalk] bayes permission errors (still)

2003-12-22 Thread Robert Nicholson
Since you're using bayes do you get the same errors when you try to use sa-learn? If this was me I'd simply run sa-learn in the perl debugger and debug how the bayesstore is being written. I don't think your problem is spamd specific. On Dec 19, 2003, at 3:06 AM, Lukreme wrote: I make sure th

Re: [SAtalk] [RD]X-MT-nn: header (variable headers in general)

2003-12-22 Thread Brent J. Nordquist
On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, Robert Nicholson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I cannot think of any legimate emails that would contain X-MT in their > header so why not just right the rule to check for that instead of > worrying about which digits are present. Then you only have to worry > about what happens

Re: [SAtalk] SA 2.61 issues with perl 5.8.0?

2003-12-22 Thread Robert Nicholson
I'm not seeing any problems with 5.8.0 and I'm making heavy use of SpamAssassin in my perl filter scripts. On Dec 22, 2003, at 10:22 AM, J. S. Greenfield wrote: I've seen a few comment here that SA has issues with perl 5.8. Anybody have a thumbnail sketch of what the issues are? Looks like R

[SAtalk] Re: bayes permission errors (still)

2003-12-22 Thread Lukreme
On 20 Dec 2003, at 12:25, Lukreme wrote: On 19 Dec 2003, at 22:15, Lukreme wrote: I set the permissions on all the bayes files to 700 for all users and I still ended up having them get switched to - after some period of time. Although, it appears that this time it was a couple of hours:

Re: [SAtalk] [RD]X-MT-nn: header (variable headers in general)

2003-12-22 Thread Robert Nicholson
I cannot think of any legimate emails that would contain X-MT in their header so why not just right the rule to check for that instead of worrying about which digits are present. Then you only have to worry about what happens when they change the two characters after the X- :-) On Dec 22, 2003,

[SAtalk] BAYES_xx not showing up in spam??

2003-12-22 Thread Barton L. Phillips
I never seem to see any BAYES_xx tests in any of my spam. I have seen a couple in ham but not many. I have autolearn on and have a few entries in my bayes files as shown by sa-learn --dump: 912 spam, 102 ham, 50876 tokens. Am I doing something wrong or should I not see BAYES_xx in confirmed spa

RE: [SAtalk] bayes stopped working

2003-12-22 Thread S. M. C. Butler
>> Can anyone give me a clue as to how to resolve this? > Looks like you need to Install BerkeleyDB first... DB::File requires it. > Once you get those two loaded, bayes should work for ya. Yep, the problem was that SA was looking for /usr/local/BerkeleyDB and the sun "addpkg" was creating it

[SAtalk] SpamAssassin Install Help

2003-12-22 Thread Mike Schultz
I am having a problem installing Spam Assassin 2.61 on perl 5.8.2. When I go to the Spam Assassin directory and type perl makefile.pl it works fine and asks for email or url to suspect spam report. then it said file good, Writing makefile for mail::spamassassin, makefile written by ExtUtils::

[SAtalk] Re: Mailing lists and compliance verbage

2003-12-22 Thread Chris Barnes
Scott Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Also, what are the potential future ramifications for SA as more and > more legit mailing list emailers start adding such verbage to > demonstrate their legitimacy? If it's an opt-in email list (as most legit ones are), there is no reason to add the legale

[SAtalk] why did this not get tagged with date in future?

2003-12-22 Thread mairhtin
Can anyone tell me why this did not get tagged? It clearly states that the date is thursday jan 01. Does the date header not get checked? Mairhtin Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from adsl-64-108-195-217.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net (adsl-64-108-195-217.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.n

Re: [SAtalk] SA 2.61 issues with perl 5.8.0?

2003-12-22 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Mon, Dec 22, 2003 at 11:22:29AM -0500, J. S. Greenfield wrote: > I've seen a few comment here that SA has issues with perl 5.8. Anybody > have a thumbnail sketch of what the issues are? Looks like RHELv3 comes > with 5.8.0, so I'm trying to figure out whether it's necessary to > downgrade t

RE: [SAtalk] [RD]X-MT-nn: header (variable headers in general)

2003-12-22 Thread Yackley, Matt
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Brent J. Nordquist > Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 11:36 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [SAtalk] X-MT-nn: header (variable headers in general) > > I've noticed several messages (all spam

[SAtalk] X-MT-nn: header (variable headers in general)

2003-12-22 Thread Brent J. Nordquist
I've noticed several messages (all spam) with this header: X-MT-17: 1906684 X-MT-25: 1906684 etc. The value is always the same, but the header name itself varies. I could define 100 rules for all 2-digit possibilities but next they'll probably go to three (or sixteen). Is there a way to write

Re: [SAtalk] Re: We have big evil now we need big good...

2003-12-22 Thread Robert Nicholson
All of this sounds like where you then have you put your faith in Bayes. Surely there are terms in these emails that are sent that Spammers aren't using in theirs. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials. Become an expert i

RE: [SAtalk] Amuseing hidden text in spam

2003-12-22 Thread Gary Funck
> > > And, anyone know what the x-stuff-for-pete I often see in > spam is from > > ? > > > Ask Pete. :) After some Googling, it seems that this spammer has it in for [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take a look at news.admin.net-abuse.sightings, and you'll see that Pete was posting a lot of these spam samp

Re: [SAtalk] We have big evil now we need big good...

2003-12-22 Thread Robert Nicholson
Part of my spam filter checking consists of a known domains list. ie. I never thru any mail that is from a user from that domain into SpamAssassin. Likewise my whitelist. This could eventually be abused by spammers quite easily but so far I haven't found it to be a problem. I can always resort

Re: [SAtalk] Amuseing hidden text in spam

2003-12-22 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, Evan Platt wrote: > It was covered - IIRC, the random text is an attempt to throw off the > Bayesian filters. Right -- I knew THAT part. It was just that they are using Bart Simpson lines now. == Chris Candreva -- [E

Re: [SAtalk] Amuseing hidden text in spam

2003-12-22 Thread Evan Platt
--On Monday, December 22, 2003 11:00 AM -0500 "Christopher X. Candreva" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Got a bunch of these over the weekend, mailing list archvies didn't turn > up any mention. What do these phrases look like to you ? It was covered - IIRC, the random text is an attempt to thr

[SAtalk] Moving Exchange Spam to SA SMTP box to get it to learn

2003-12-22 Thread Mark Squire
Hi all, I looked around for questions regarding this on the archives site, and the main side for SpamAssassin, but I guess I missed it. One way to train SpamAssassin is to get thousands of emails, and use the sa-learn command as described here: http://www.mirror.ac.uk/sites/spamassassin.taint.org

[SAtalk] SA 2.61 issues with perl 5.8.0?

2003-12-22 Thread J. S. Greenfield
I've seen a few comment here that SA has issues with perl 5.8. Anybody have a thumbnail sketch of what the issues are? Looks like RHELv3 comes with 5.8.0, so I'm trying to figure out whether it's necessary to downgrade to 5.6.1. Thanks. -

[SAtalk] amavisd-new + spamassassin question

2003-12-22 Thread Joao Alberto M. dos Reis
Hi, I get the following message when amavisd-new try to scan a spam mail for spam with SA: Dec 22 10:04:50 socrates amavis[12387]: (12387-04) SA TIMED OUT, backtrace: at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0/Mail/SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm line 1489\n\teval {...} called at /usr/lib/perl5/site_per

Re: [SAtalk] How to include rules such as bigevil

2003-12-22 Thread Matt Kettler
At 09:15 AM 12/22/2003, Ian Duncalf wrote: The auto learn function is working but I am still getting quite alot through ( nearly 120 spams this weekend ). Well, I'd advise not relying entirely on autolearn.. do some manual training with sa-learn as well.. I am slowly winning the battle but would

[SAtalk] Amuseing hidden text in spam

2003-12-22 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
Got a bunch of these over the weekend, mailing list archvies didn't turn up any mention. What do these phrases look like to you ? The fifth amendment does not cover burping I will not prescribe medication I'm not reproduceing them all --- but it looks like someone is seeding spam with a

[SAtalk] Re: How to include rules such as bigevil

2003-12-22 Thread Ian Duncalf
Many Thanx for the info Ian :) >I'm pretty sure this is in the FAQ, but: >Just put them in the same directory as your local.cf (usually >/etc/mail/spamassassin) and restart spamd (if you're running SA that >way). >Rubin On Mon, 2003-12-22 at 09:15, Ian Duncalf wrote: > Forgive me if I what I am

Re: [SAtalk] How to include rules such as bigevil

2003-12-22 Thread Rubin Bennett
I'm pretty sure this is in the FAQ, but: Just put them in the same directory as your local.cf (usually /etc/mail/spamassassin) and restart spamd (if you're running SA that way). Rubin On Mon, 2003-12-22 at 09:15, Ian Duncalf wrote: > Forgive me if I what I am asking is obvious to some but I would

Re: [SAtalk] Image-only spam

2003-12-22 Thread barryc
After replacing the RPM I got from RedHat (2.44) with the RPMs found on the SpamAssassin website (2.61) it's now catching 2/3 of the spam. The image-only spam I'm getting is now being tagged at 2.0 - 3.6. Now that I'm running a modern release of SpamAssassin, I'll take a look at DCC and Razor,

[SAtalk] How to include rules such as bigevil

2003-12-22 Thread Ian Duncalf
Forgive me if I what I am asking is obvious to some but I would like to know how to use some of the rule sets that available e.g. bigevil.cf and http://www.merchantsoverseas.com/wwwroot/gorilla/90_FVGT.cf etc. I am running SpamAssassin v2.61 on SuSe 7.3. I am using Sendmail & the Procmail filter t

RE: [SAtalk] ... SA 2.61 eats mails ...

2003-12-22 Thread Bill
> You say you believe you changed noting important, but apparently > _something_ important was changed. What can you remember > about settings you > changed since it last worked? One of the easily missed gotcha's is editing the file in windows notepad or another unix-unaware editor. This insert

Re: [SAtalk] ... SA 2.61 eats mails ...

2003-12-22 Thread Matt Kettler
At 06:34 PM 12/21/03 +0100, Kai Poppe/Redaktion SDCE wrote: i've got a serious problem on my hand. Having installed postfix i set up SpamAssassin and it perfectly worked until 2 days ago. I believe, I changed nothing important but suddenly the mails piped from spamassassin through sendmail to run i

RE: [SAtalk] Strange DNSBL problem with spamassassin

2003-12-22 Thread Robert Lacroix
Hi, I think I found the problem. server14.asklepios.com (the host that webshield uses in the header) resolved to a public IP address, while asklepios.com (the host that imail uses in the header) resolved to a private IP address (due to Active Directory). I put server14.asklepios.com to a private a

Re: [SAtalk] Image-only spam

2003-12-22 Thread Matt Kettler
At 05:05 PM 12/21/03 -0500, Barry Callahan wrote: I installed Spamassassin from a RedHat RPM as a test a day or two ago, and it's properly flagging about 1/3 of the incoming SPAM as such. I have not played around with any of the settings yet. Half of what's getting through has a score of 3.6 -

Re: [SAtalk] Strange DNSBL problem with spamassassin

2003-12-22 Thread Matt Kettler
At 02:12 AM 12/22/03 +0100, Robert Lacroix wrote: Hi all, I have a strange problem with SpamAssassin and I can't find out a solution to this: We use a McAfee Webshield SMTP in front of an IMail server, that scans for viruses and passes emails to IMail which runs on another port than 25. IMail anal

RE: [SAtalk] ... SA 2.61 eats mails ...

2003-12-22 Thread Colin A. Bartlett
Rubin Bennett Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 7:28 AM > And, just a small 'netiquette nit to pick: ANY attempt at a helpful > answer is "satisfactory". If you need more information, request it in a > polite manner and it'sll probably happen. Sending a message with the > tone of yours surely doe

Re: [SAtalk] ... SA 2.61 eats mails ...

2003-12-22 Thread Rubin Bennett
Well, I gave the best answer I could based on the small amount of information you gave the list... "It doesn't work" is a pretty open ended problem. ;^) To be able to tell you more, we need to know more about your setup. What are you using for an MTA (sendmail/postfix/something else?) and MDA (p

[SAtalk] memory leaking spamd procs (PS)

2003-12-22 Thread jpff
We are alive again so... Spamassassin v2.60 Perl v5.6.1 ==John ffitch --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials. Become an expert in LINUX or just sharpen your skills. Sign up for IBM's Free Linux Tutorials. Learn ever

Re: [SAtalk] ... SA 2.61 eats mails ...

2003-12-22 Thread Kai Poppe/Redaktion SDCE
Hi Rubin, unfortunately your answer isn't at all satisfactory ... WHAT could be wrong with procmail ? I haven't got a procmailrc in /etc ... so some other systems i own don't either - spamassassin works anyways ... I would appreciate a more detailled suggestion what could be wrong with procmail K

Re: [SAtalk] We have big evil now we need big good...

2003-12-22 Thread David B Funk
On Sat, 20 Dec 2003, Gary Smith wrote: > So we implemented SA some time ago because our clients were getting too much spam. > Lately we have found that several html marked up emails have been getting marked as > spam. These ones are clearly fp's. > > Some of the domains include Morningstar.com