Re: [SAtalk] spam-assassin & procmail

2002-04-05 Thread Robert Fleming
--On Friday, April 5, 2002 6:49 PM +0200 "Tony L. Svanstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> is rumoured to have written: > On Fri, 5 Apr 2002 the voices made Chris MacLeod write: > >> I want to do something along the lines of dropping everything over a >> certain score (ex >20) then anything less than that

Re: [SAtalk] Hi, I am the SpamAssassin maintainer

2002-04-05 Thread Rob McMillin
Craig Hughes wrote: >I disagree that Paul is an ass. He makes some semi-valid points about >people's fears, and about how sometimes ISPs misuse or misinstall tools >on their systems, and thereby negatively impact their users. What I >mostly disagree with him about is that SpamAssassin goes out

Re: [SAtalk] Spam Assassin

2002-04-05 Thread Craig Hughes
Well, I don't know about despicable, but certainly it would have been polite for him to contact me before publically badmouthing me and encouraging wide distribution of his misrepresentations about my character and my work. C On Fri, 2002-04-05 at 22:29, Duncan Findlay wrote: > Furthermore, his

Re: [SAtalk] Hi, I am the SpamAssassin maintainer

2002-04-05 Thread Craig Hughes
I disagree that Paul is an ass. He makes some semi-valid points about people's fears, and about how sometimes ISPs misuse or misinstall tools on their systems, and thereby negatively impact their users. What I mostly disagree with him about is that SpamAssassin goes out of its way to make it har

Re: [SAtalk] Spam Assassin

2002-04-05 Thread Duncan Findlay
On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 02:27:37PM -0500, Wandrer wrote: > FYI: > > The Mail Killer > In this case the culprit was an alleged spam filter system called "Spam > Assassin." > Any person that recommends this software should be required to re-take > their IQ test, to see if they still have one. > A

Re: [SAtalk] Hi, I am the SpamAssassin maintainer

2002-04-05 Thread Rob McMillin
Craig R Hughes wrote: >Hi there Paul. > [...] > > >Yours, > >Craig Hughes > Danged polite. I would have been sorely tempted to trail off with a, "and the horse you rode in on!" (or far worse) but I decline the invitation and leave it for others to attend to. What an ass this guy is. -- h

Re: [SAtalk] s-a not finding razor

2002-04-05 Thread Larry Rosenman
* Chris Beggy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020405 19:33]: > From: Larry Rosenman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > FAQ. It's the Razor 1.20 client. Downgrade razor to 1.19, or upgrade > > SA to 2.20. > > Thanks. That did the trick immediately. Just went through this myself. Looked through the archives..

Re: [SAtalk] s-a not finding razor

2002-04-05 Thread Craig R Hughes
The FAQ contains a clue about this problem. C Chris Beggy wrote: > Why can't it find Razor::Client? I'm using S-A-2.11 and > razor-agent-1.20. ___ Spamassassin-talk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamass

[SAtalk] Hi, I am the SpamAssassin maintainer

2002-04-05 Thread Craig R Hughes
Hi there Paul. I'm currently maintaining the SpamAssassin project for Justin Mason while he's off on vacation. He's the guy, by the way, who jokingly put the "profit is dirty" message on his webpage. I got pointed to your webpage http://www.talkbiz.com/assassin.html and went there to read it

Re: [SAtalk] s-a not finding razor

2002-04-05 Thread Chris Beggy
From: Larry Rosenman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > FAQ. It's the Razor 1.20 client. Downgrade razor to 1.19, or upgrade > SA to 2.20. Thanks. That did the trick immediately. Chris ___ Spamassassin-talk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourcef

Re: [SAtalk] 'Grandfathering' SpamAssassin

2002-04-05 Thread Scott Doty
On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 03:25:20PM -0800, Andrew Salamon wrote: >I've installed SpamAssassin on my company's mail server and started using > it for a few addresses. Unfortunately, that leaves me with several > megabytes of existing email that I would like to retroactively scan. I > tried th

Re: [SAtalk] 'Grandfathering' SpamAssassin

2002-04-05 Thread Sidney Markowitz
On Fri, 2002-04-05 at 15:25, Andrew Salamon wrote: > I tried the simplistic approach of simply piping a Unix mbox file through > SpamAssassin but it only seems to have looked at the first email. Yes, SpamAssassin expects that its input is a single mail message. formail is designed to do what yo

[SAtalk] 'Grandfathering' SpamAssassin

2002-04-05 Thread Andrew Salamon
I've installed SpamAssassin on my company's mail server and started using it for a few addresses. Unfortunately, that leaves me with several megabytes of existing email that I would like to retroactively scan. I tried the simplistic approach of simply piping a Unix mbox file through SpamAss

Re: [SAtalk] s-a not finding razor

2002-04-05 Thread Matthew Cline
On Friday 05 April 2002 01:10 pm, Chris Beggy wrote: > First I built and installed spamassassin without razor. Now > despite installing razor, I get the following errors in the s-a > test suite: > > t/db_based_whitelist.ok > t/forged_rcvd...razor check skipped: No such file or directory > und

[SAtalk] problem getting spamassassin working with procmail

2002-04-05 Thread Miles Fidelman
Hi Folks, Maybe somebody can help me with the following: - I've just installed spamassassin 2.11 on my machine (Sun, Solaris) - it works from the command line - it works as a filter when I pipe from within Pine - but, when I stick the recommended rule into .procmailrc, things break -- procmail

RE: [SAtalk] Spam Assassin

2002-04-05 Thread Casimir Couvillion
I'm probably one of those email admins he hates. A couple months ago, our company's execs decided they were tired of getting offers for "vi*gra" and "h*t ho*ny te*ns". I set up spam-assassin to mark and deliver emails. I told the users what we were doing and told them to tell me when email was

Re: [SAtalk] s-a not finding razor

2002-04-05 Thread Larry Rosenman
FAQ. It's the Razor 1.20 client. Downgrade razor to 1.19, or upgrade SA to 2.20. LER On Fri, 2002-04-05 at 15:10, Chris Beggy wrote: > First I built and installed spamassassin without razor. Now > despite installing razor, I get the following errors in the s-a > test suite: > > t/db_based_w

Re: [SAtalk] Spam Assassin

2002-04-05 Thread Jay Hodges
Here is a solution to people against spam assassin - rename it to: Mail Analysis Protection Scanner for Kids email Contaminated with Unsolicited Filth People cannot argue against protecting kids from porn and unsolicited mail. (And have lots of fun with the initials) Tongue in Cheekily, Jay Hod

[SAtalk] s-a not finding razor

2002-04-05 Thread Chris Beggy
First I built and installed spamassassin without razor. Now despite installing razor, I get the following errors in the s-a test suite: t/db_based_whitelist.ok t/forged_rcvd...razor check skipped: No such file or directory undefined Razo

RE: [SAtalk] Spam Assassin

2002-04-05 Thread Smith, Rick
Same here. SA RULES. > -Original Message- > From: Tyler Hardison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 3:13 PM > To: Nick Fisher; Rose, Bobby; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Spam Assassin > > > On 4/5/02 12:00 PM, "Nick Fisher" <[EMA

Re: [SAtalk] spam-assassin & procmail

2002-04-05 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Fri, 5 Apr 2002 the voices made Craig R Hughes write: > NB it is possible to have scores >100, in theory. Quite likely in fact if you > use blacklists. > > In theory, communism works, in theory. In theory, anyone using my "code" should be able to copy&paste his way into a solutions if he fi

RE: [SAtalk] Spam Assassin

2002-04-05 Thread Nick Fisher
> This is actually scary. I agree, our company has spent a good deal of time changing the formats of our mails and learning how spam blockers work so that our Newsletters don't get blocked. They are a major source of $$$ for us. If no one could get them we would be in deep do do. > I don¹t block

Re: [SAtalk] Spam Assassin

2002-04-05 Thread Tyler Hardison
On 4/5/02 12:00 PM, "Nick Fisher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think his rant is realy directed at people who setup SA to automatically > reject/delete mail that hits the threshold score. He doesn't seem to realise > that's not the way your supposed to do it. I might point out that I am the > p

RE: [SAtalk] Spam Assassin

2002-04-05 Thread Nick Fisher
I think his rant is realy directed at people who setup SA to automatically reject/delete mail that hits the threshold score. He doesn't seem to realise that's not the way your supposed to do it. I might point out that I am the postmaster for a domain that sends out 100s of thousands of emails a we

RE: [SAtalk] Spam Assassin

2002-04-05 Thread Nick Fisher
Oh dear. Annother so called expert blaming the tools rather than the workmen. If someone has installed SA without propper whitelists and consideration real mail does get blocked. Duh! Don't blame SA for something that an admin did. When I first installed SA all sorts of things were incorrectly tag

RE: [SAtalk] Spam Assassin

2002-04-05 Thread Rose, Bobby
One work... Uninformed. Based on the content of the e-rag, he has issues far beyond SA. My impression is that the various spam software being used by systems is either outright refusing his e-rag or in SA's case tagging it. Maybe his email address should become a spamtroll address ;-) -O

[SAtalk] Spam Assassin

2002-04-05 Thread Wandrer
FYI: The Mail Killer In this case the culprit was an alleged spam filter system called "Spam Assassin." Any person that recommends this software should be required to re-take their IQ test, to see if they still have one. Any service denier who actually uses it should be promptly sued into obliv

Re: [SAtalk] local.cf in /etc/mail/spamassassin not being checked

2002-04-05 Thread Sean Rima
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 5 Apr 2002, Craig R. Hughes spake thusly: > ls -ld /etc/mail/spamassassin? And what uid is spamd running as? > sean@bsod:~ > ls -ld /etc/mail/spamassassin drwxr-xr-x 2 exim exim 84 Apr 5 10:28 /etc/mail/spamassassin sean@bs

Re: [SAtalk] local.cf in /etc/mail/spamassassin not being checked

2002-04-05 Thread Craig R Hughes
ls -ld /etc/mail/spamassassin? And what uid is spamd running as? C Sean Rima wrote: > Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 18:51:08 +0100 > From: Sean Rima <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [SAtalk] local.cf in /etc/mail/spamassassin not being checked > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESS

Re: [SAtalk] spam-assassin & procmail

2002-04-05 Thread Craig R Hughes
NB it is possible to have scores >100, in theory. Quite likely in fact if you use blacklists. In theory, communism works, in theory. Tony L. Svanstrom wrote: > Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 18:49:44 +0200 (CEST) > From: Tony L. Svanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: Chris M

Re: [SAtalk] local.cf in /etc/mail/spamassassin not being checked

2002-04-05 Thread Sean Rima
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05 Apr 2002, Craig Hughes outgrape: > ls -l /etc/mail/spamassassin ? > sean@bsod:~ > ls -l /etc/mail/spamassassin/ total 8 - -rwx-- 1 exim exim 848 Apr 5 10:28 local.cf - -rwx-- 1 root root 631 Apr 5 10:24

Re: [SAtalk] spam-assassin & procmail

2002-04-05 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Fri, 5 Apr 2002 the voices made Chris MacLeod write: > I want to do something along the lines of dropping everything over a > certain score (ex >20) then anything less than that but still over my spam > threshold putting it into a separate folder to go through later. (Consider this pseudo-co

[SAtalk] Japanese encoding triggers

2002-04-05 Thread Rob McMillin
Interesting wrinkle on CASHCASHCASH: while I don't know for sure, it appears that this legitimate spam (I have the score for CASHCASHCASH overridden to 2.0) points out that three dollar signs in a row might be a bad test if the text body is encoded in iso-2022-jp, which seems to like dollar

Re: [SAtalk] local.cf in /etc/mail/spamassassin not being checked

2002-04-05 Thread Craig Hughes
ls -l /etc/mail/spamassassin ? C On Fri, 2002-04-05 at 01:56, Sean Rima wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 05 Apr 2002, Craig Hughes told this: > > > What does spamassassin -D say? > > > > > debug: using "/usr/share/spamassassin" for default rules dir > debug: u

[SAtalk] spam-assassin & procmail

2002-04-05 Thread Chris MacLeod
I just started using spam assassin and after about 2 hours I moved it over for my whole mail server (instead of a per user basis) It'll probably get rolled out at work in a few weeks. Thanks to all! Does anyone have some good procmail recipies for filtered spamassassin mail? I want to do s

Re: [SAtalk] IFRAME src=cid again

2002-04-05 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Fri, 5 Apr 2002 the voices made Matt Sergeant write: > Craig Hughes wrote: > > I think the problem is you need to escape the <. > > < isn't anything special in a regexp - this is just a misunderstanding > propogated thoughout the SA rules. [tony@localhost] /Users/tony/ {155} man egrep | grep

Re: [SAtalk] local.cf in /etc/mail/spamassassin not being checked

2002-04-05 Thread Sean Rima
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05 Apr 2002, Craig Hughes told this: > What does spamassassin -D say? > debug: using "/usr/share/spamassassin" for default rules dir debug: using "/etc/mail/spamassassin" for site rules dir debug: using "/home/sean/.spamassassin" for user state

Re: [SAtalk] IFRAME src=cid again

2002-04-05 Thread Craig Hughes
Must be a holdover from some other regex system -- I think it means "beginning of word" in some regex syntax or other, like: \b(?=\w) in perl On Fri, 2002-04-05 at 00:45, Matt Sergeant wrote: > Craig Hughes wrote: > > I think the problem is you need to escape the <. > > < isn't anything specia

Re: [SAtalk] IFRAME src=cid again

2002-04-05 Thread Matt Sergeant
Craig Hughes wrote: > I think the problem is you need to escape the <. < isn't anything special in a regexp - this is just a misunderstanding propogated thoughout the SA rules. Matt. ___ Spamassassin-talk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://list

Re: [SAtalk] Help configuring SA for POP accounts only (notsitewide); no real user accounts

2002-04-05 Thread Craig Hughes
On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 12:50, Ryan Hammond wrote: > Any suggestions out there? Am I barking up the completely incorrect tree? > Is there an easy way to verify that we are actually using procmail? etc. Your recipe looks plausible, spamassassin seems to be working. Have you thought of the "ask

Re: [SAtalk] SiteWide Config Questions

2002-04-05 Thread Craig Hughes
On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 21:55, Justin Wilson wrote: > 4.Recommended procedure for taking the redhat-rc-script.sh and making it a > startup script? # mv redhat-rc-script.sh /etc/rc.d/init.d/spamd # chkconfig --add spamd # service spamd start C ___ Spamas

Re: [SAtalk] Problems with SA and Vipul's Razor v 1.20

2002-04-05 Thread Craig Hughes
It's a known issue. In fact, it's in the FAQ at http://www.spamassassin.org/faq.html C On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 20:29, Aly Dharshi wrote: > Hello Gurus, > > I hope that you are well, is there a known issue with Vipul's razor 1.20 and >spam assassin latest released version ? I installed vipul

Re: [SAtalk] auto-whitelist

2002-04-05 Thread Craig Hughes
On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 19:46, Paul Rushing wrote: > This message pertains to using AWL and SQL options. > > if you will look at the spamd and Conf.pm code, you will see that > per-user AWL files are by default defined as ~/.spamassassin/auto-whitelist > > This depends on the setuid code in spamd