[SAtalk] How to deal with ?

2002-03-20 Thread Matthew Cline
One way that spammers could try to get around some of the URI rules (at least for HTML only spam) is to put the main part of the URI into a tag, so that all of the URIs pulled from won't match rules which look for domain names and "http://";. I've modified get_decoded_stripped_body_text_array()

Re: [SAtalk] Some changes to unsub/remove URI rules

2002-03-20 Thread Bart Schaefer
On Wed, 20 Mar 2002, Matthew Cline wrote: > The REMOVE_PAGE regexp was > > /^https?:\/\/[^\/]+\/remove/ > > I changed it so that "remove" can be anywhere in the filename, and also > added "removal", "delete" and "optout" to the words to search for. I got a spam yesterday that used "no_emai

[SAtalk] Unusual munging of "To" hostname

2002-03-20 Thread Matthew Cline
I've just received two web hosting related spams from "hostingguy" at bigfoot.com. The "To" had random gibberish added as a host name to actual domain name: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is this to avoid spam-trap searches that look for exactly the smap trap adress? They passed b

[SAtalk] Some changes to unsub/remove URI rules

2002-03-20 Thread Matthew Cline
I've made some changes to a few of the unsub/remove URI rules. A diff for the changes is included as an attachment... The UNSUB_PAGE regexp was: /^https?:\/\/.*(?!cgi).*unsubscribe/i Using (?!cgi) to exclude URIs with a "cgi" in them doesn't work, because the first ".*" can match everythin

[SAtalk] Anyone seeing a spamc/spamd timeout?

2002-03-20 Thread Scott Doty
I'm using spamc from my .procmailrc to talk to a dedicated spamd box. I'm seeing an intermittent failure of the system, and I thought I'd ask if others have seen the same thing. Essentially, there are spams making it through to my mailbox which don't even have an "X-Spam-Status" header. Yet, I'

Re: [SAtalk] Improvement to NVALID_MSGID

2002-03-20 Thread Matthew Cline
On Wednesday 20 March 2002 06:45 pm, Theo Van Dinter wrote: > On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 06:09:24PM -0800, Matthew Cline wrote: > > Currenlt, INVALID_MSGID doesn't catch message IDs like > > <026b10d87e4c$8543d8d6$8ad36ae8@ihervr>, because it only requires that > > there > > But that is a valid Messa

Re: [SAtalk] spamassassin -r problem

2002-03-20 Thread Michael Blakeley
At 16:49 -0800 2002-03-20, Matthew Cline wrote: >On Wednesday 20 March 2002 12:20 pm, Michael Blakeley wrote: >> WIth 2.01 installed via CPAN, spamassassin complains about missing >> Razor::Client - but it is installed: >> >> $ perl -MRazor::Client -e 'print "$Razor::Client::VERSION\n";' >>

[SAtalk] Re: SA's performance with mailing lists

2002-03-20 Thread Daniel Pittman
On Wed, 20 Mar 2002, Kerry Nice wrote: > I did email Chris Prillo of Lockergnome and tried to enlighten him. > His response basically was that he was mad that people were using > something that they didn't know how to use and it was too powerful. Hey, that's a reasonable objection. I would comp

[SAtalk] Re: spamproxyd : 'sending spam to a spamtrap box & the intendedrecip ient'

2002-03-20 Thread Daniel Pittman
On Wed, 20 Mar 2002, Greg Ward wrote: > On 20 March 2002, Maurits Bloos said: >> Has anyone 'hacked' spamproxyd to send *SPAM* to both the intended >> recipient and to a 'spamtrap' mailbox ? > > Why bother? I thought the point of spamproxyd was to allow rejecting > spam at SMTP-time. Heck, no.

Re: [SAtalk] Improvement to NVALID_MSGID

2002-03-20 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 06:09:24PM -0800, Matthew Cline wrote: > Currenlt, INVALID_MSGID doesn't catch message IDs like > <026b10d87e4c$8543d8d6$8ad36ae8@ihervr>, because it only requires that there But that is a valid Message-Id according to RFC 2822. Unless you really want to get into the RFC

[SAtalk] Improvement to NVALID_MSGID

2002-03-20 Thread Matthew Cline
Currenlt, INVALID_MSGID doesn't catch message IDs like <026b10d87e4c$8543d8d6$8ad36ae8@ihervr>, because it only requires that there be something after the "@". I've changed it so that it requires something like a normal host name after the "@" (with at least one "." in it). While I was at it, I

Re: [SAtalk] ORBZ shutdown

2002-03-20 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Thu, Mar 21, 2002 at 12:24:54AM +0100, Søren Boll Overgaard wrote: > Using rfc-ignorant.com would be a bad idea. > In Denmark (where I live) our TLD-administrator is restricted by law from > running a whois server for .dk. This has earned the entire country a place in > rfc-ignorant.com's datab

Re: [SAtalk] spamassassin -r problem

2002-03-20 Thread Matthew Cline
On Wednesday 20 March 2002 12:20 pm, Michael Blakeley wrote: > WIth 2.01 installed via CPAN, spamassassin complains about missing > Razor::Client - but it is installed: > > $ perl -MRazor::Client -e 'print "$Razor::Client::VERSION\n";' > 1.20 Downgrade to 1.19 -- Visit http://dmoz.o

Re: [SAtalk] SA's performance with mailing lists

2002-03-20 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
> I guess it depends on what the focus is here, do you > want something that works great for a largely US based > group with mostly technical email or is there a wider > goal? Do you go for 100% spam catching with some > false positives or do you miss some because you never > want a false positiv

Re: [SAtalk] ORBZ shutdown

2002-03-20 Thread Søren Boll Overgaard
On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 03:40:31PM -0500, Theo Van Dinter wrote: > On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 12:20:32PM -0800, Matthew Cline wrote: > > Mentioned in one of the article's comments was another RBL that SA currently > > doesn't use, http://njabl.org/ > > As well as: http://www.rfc-ignorant.com/ Usin

Re: [SAtalk] SA's performance with mailing lists

2002-03-20 Thread Kerry Nice
I did email Chris Prillo of Lockergnome and tried to enlighten him. His response basically was that he was mad that people were using something that they didn't know how to use and it was too powerful. Ok fine, but I think it is misdirected anger, but I see why he is mad since his newsletter, wh

RE: [SAtalk] Failed test Razor::Client

2002-03-20 Thread CertaintyTech - Ed Henderson
> > On Wednesday 20 March 2002 11:46 am, Lewis Bergman wrote: > > I have installed SpamAssassin and it is working as it should > be. The only > > problem I seem to have is this error is reported when it runs: > > razor check skipped: No such file or directory undefined Razor::Client > > If you are

[SAtalk] Spamassassin / Mailscanner

2002-03-20 Thread Kelly Hamlin
Im asking this on both lists cause im in desprate need of some help. For a month or so both my primary email gateway and secondary have been running fine. Last night out of nowhere it started acting flaky (the primary) after several hours of fiddling and reinstalling spamassassin and mailscanner,

RE: [SAtalk] Failed test Razor::Client

2002-03-20 Thread Maurits Bloos
Shouldn't this be on the SpamAssassin website... ? A lot of people seem to have problems with Razor 1.20 > -Original Message- > From: Matthew Cline [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: woensdag 20 maart 2002 21:17 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Failed t

Re: [SAtalk] ORBZ shutdown

2002-03-20 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 12:20:32PM -0800, Matthew Cline wrote: > Mentioned in one of the article's comments was another RBL that SA currently > doesn't use, http://njabl.org/ As well as: http://www.rfc-ignorant.com/ -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "I once witnessed a long-winded, month-long fla

Re: [SAtalk] ORBZ shutdown

2002-03-20 Thread Matthew Cline
On Wednesday 20 March 2002 08:25 am, Jason wrote: > Looks like ORBZ has been shutdown... > > As seen on slashdot > > http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/03/20/1528246&mode=thread&tid=111 Mentioned in one of the article's comments was another RBL that SA currently doesn't use, http://njabl.org

[SAtalk] CPAN install errors

2002-03-20 Thread Michael Blakeley
It looks like there are some problems with CPAN 'install Mail::SpamAssassin' (v2.01) on virgin systems. Apparently 'make test' looks for some files that aren't there until SpamAssassin has already been installed: Running make test PERL_DL_NONLAZY=1 /usr/bin/perl -Iblib/arch -Iblib/lib -I/Syst

[SAtalk] spamassassin -r problem

2002-03-20 Thread Michael Blakeley
WIth 2.01 installed via CPAN, spamassassin complains about missing Razor::Client - but it is installed: $ perl -MRazor::Client -e 'print "$Razor::Client::VERSION\n";' 1.20 ...and the complaint is a little odd: $ spamassassin -r https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listin

Re: [SAtalk] Failed test Razor::Client

2002-03-20 Thread Matthew Cline
On Wednesday 20 March 2002 11:46 am, Lewis Bergman wrote: > I have installed SpamAssassin and it is working as it should be. The only > problem I seem to have is this error is reported when it runs: > razor check skipped: No such file or directory undefined Razor::Client If you are using Razor 1.

[SAtalk] spamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net

2002-03-20 Thread Josh Levine
> Hu... That takes me back a bit. Pine is cool but how do you read HTML > mail? I don't often need to but it is sorta required. > I've not looked at Mozilla's client but I used to play with Eudora. The > problem I've had with everything except OutLook is that they don't scale > well. Mail boxs

[SAtalk] Failed test Razor::Client

2002-03-20 Thread Lewis Bergman
I have installed SpamAssassin and it is working as it should be. The only problem I seem to have is this error is reported when it runs: razor check skipped: No such file or directory undefined Razor::Client The same sort of errror was reported on the make test and it skipped all of the razor t

[SAtalk] suggested rule: exclamation marks in body

2002-03-20 Thread Michael Blakeley
I've already forwarded this message to spamassassin-sightings, but I wanted to suggest a rule that would have caught it: BODY_PLING: assign messages 0.5 points per exclamation mark per body kB Granted, some folks do use exclamation marks in legit email. But only spammers (and other der

[SAtalk] Sig TERM, sig HUP, or what for spamd?

2002-03-20 Thread Doug Herr
If I wish to shut down spamd on a Redhat system without using the rc script provided (using version 2.11 of SA), is there a proper signal to send so that e-mail being scanned when the signal hits don't get lost? Or would they not even be lost if I sent a sig KILL ? -- Doug Herr [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [SAtalk] Proxys, Win32, RFCs and other nonsense...

2002-03-20 Thread dman
On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 12:25:47PM -0500, Nick Fisher wrote: | > > I realy HATE OutLook. In there was annother Win32 mail | > > client that could cope with the ammount of email I handle I | > > would move to it. | > | > Pine. I switched to pine here at work, and the windows version is quite | > n

RE: [SAtalk] spamproxyd : 'sending spam to a spamtrap box & the i ntended recip ient'

2002-03-20 Thread Tony Hoyle
> -Original Message- > From: Maurits Bloos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 20 March 2002 16:52 > To: 'Greg Ward'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [SAtalk] spamproxyd : 'sending spam to a > spamtrap box & the > i ntended recip ient' > > > Well, my server running SA is a mail-gateway (

RE: [SAtalk] Proxys, Win32, RFCs and other nonsense...

2002-03-20 Thread Nick Fisher
> SNIP < > >>I've done some small scale experiments using PerlCtrl (the thing that > >>allows you to make COM objects from in Perl) to plug into Outlook. Short > >>and curlies of it is that it works, and it keeps Perl in memory, so > >>there's no load-time issue. However I'm not entirely sure how

RE: [SAtalk] spamproxyd : 'sending spam to a spamtrap box & the intended recip ient'

2002-03-20 Thread Maurits Bloos
Hi, > -Original Message- > From: Greg Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: woensdag 20 maart 2002 17:43 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [SAtalk] spamproxyd : 'sending spam to a > spamtrap box & the > intended recip ient' > > > On 20 March 2002, Maurits Bloos said: > > Has any

Re: [SAtalk] Proxys, Win32, RFCs and other nonsense...

2002-03-20 Thread Matt Sergeant
Nick Fisher wrote: Good to see that someone is working on this. I expect we'll have some help from a commercial company too in the next few weeks/months on assisting with making windows stuff work better here. >>>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. Well thanks... basicly what your saying is th

Re: [SAtalk] spamproxyd : 'sending spam to a spamtrap box & the intended recip ient'

2002-03-20 Thread Greg Ward
On 20 March 2002, Maurits Bloos said: > Has anyone 'hacked' spamproxyd to send *SPAM* to both the intended recipient > and to a 'spamtrap' mailbox ? Why bother? I thought the point of spamproxyd was to allow rejecting spam at SMTP-time. If you're just going to accept it anyways, then use your r

RE: [SAtalk] Proxys, Win32, RFCs and other nonsense...

2002-03-20 Thread Nick Fisher
> >>Good to see that someone is working on this. I expect we'll have some > >>help from a commercial company too in the next few weeks/months on > >>assisting with making windows stuff work better here. > >> > >HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. Well thanks... basicly what your saying is that I > >should have

[SAtalk] ORBZ shutdown

2002-03-20 Thread Jason
Looks like ORBZ has been shutdown... As seen on slashdot http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/03/20/1528246&mode=thread&tid=111 Jason Portwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Spamassassin-talk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/li

Re: [SAtalk] New AWL implementation now done

2002-03-20 Thread Henning Daum
On Tue, 19 Mar 2002 14:20:19 -0700 (MST) "Charlie Watts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, sitewide. I'll pay attention - it's only about 2 MB bigger than when > I mailed yesterday. If it is slowing down (which makes sense), I'll be OK > for a while. And even if I have to clear it once a month, t

[SAtalk] spamproxyd : 'sending spam to a spamtrap box & the intended recipient'

2002-03-20 Thread Maurits Bloos
Hi All, Has anyone 'hacked' spamproxyd to send *SPAM* to both the intended recipient and to a 'spamtrap' mailbox ? Currently I hacked spamproxyd to send it to the intended recipient, but it would help if a copy would go to a spamtrap mailbox where I can see if the mails are 'really' spam or fals

[SAtalk] Razor with spamassassin

2002-03-20 Thread Henrik Lewander
Hello all! I've been using razor personally for quite some time now but today I installed mailscanner site wide which include a hook for spamassassin. Mailscanner and Spamassassin works but not Razor when called from Spamassassin. I get this error: "razor check skipped: Bad file descriptor Insecu

Re: [SAtalk] Proxys, Win32, RFCs and other nonsense...

2002-03-20 Thread Matt Sergeant
Nick Fisher wrote: >>Good to see that someone is working on this. I expect we'll have some >>help from a commercial company too in the next few weeks/months on >>assisting with making windows stuff work better here. >> >HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. Well thanks... basicly what your saying is that I >shou