Nick Fisher wrote:

>>>>Good to see that someone is working on this.  I expect we'll have some
>>>>help from a commercial company too in the next few weeks/months on
>>>>assisting with making windows stuff work better here.
>>>>
>>>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. Well thanks... basicly what your saying is that I
>>>should have just sat back and waited! Here's me bustin my hump building a
>>>nice little util....
>>>I'm guessing from the "commercial company" referance that you
>>>
>>don't want to
>>
>>>disclose who but can you tell us what? I tryed to find a good way to
>>>intergrate SA on Win32 and the proxy was the only route I could
>>>
>>realy find.
>>
>>>If I realy tryed I could probbaly hook in to OutLook but it would be a
>>>nastie peice of code calling Perl... and with the startup lag
>>>
>>time it would
>>
>>>take forever. I looked at a few mail servers and there wern't
>>>
>>any easy ways
>>
>>>there either. I'd love to know what the idea is......
>>>
>>I've done some small scale experiments using PerlCtrl (the thing that
>>allows you to make COM objects from in Perl) to plug into Outlook. Short
>>and curlies of it is that it works, and it keeps Perl in memory, so
>>there's no load-time issue. However I'm not entirely sure how you might
>>make it refresh the rules.
>>
>Wow sounds neat! I wish you luck OutLook is a b***h. Are you/someone going
>to try and sell it?
>

No chance. Client level stuff is a bitch to manage as a company (we'd 
rather write a plugin for exchange - which may be just as easy, but I 
haven't tried that (yet?)). It was purely for fun, and to see if I could 
stem the tide of spam before we rolled out our anti-spam stuff.

>>And no, I can't give away the code - sorry :-( But I will say it's easy
>>enough to do, given sufficient tuits.
>>
>Well to tell you the truth although it sounds quite neat I don't realy want
>it. I have an office full of staff and we have had alot of bad luck with COM
>objects in OutLook. I realy HATE OutLook. In there was annother Win32 mail
>client that could cope with the ammount of email I handle I would move to
>it.
>

Pine. I switched to pine here at work, and the windows version is quite 
nice. You have to get used to some of its idiosyncracies, but once you 
do, it's a killer mail client. The only thing it lacks is a "mark all 
read" feature, but you can do that in something like 4 key presses, so 
it's not fatal (note that I'm testing out Mozilla's mail client at the 
moment, and while it's not bad, it's a bit flaky and I hate the GUI-ness 
of it). You certainly miss things like "prefer text/plain", and "zoom" 
when you switch to something else.

>I'm currently thinking about giving up on my Proxy server. The problem I
>currently can't get around it timeouts when SA is chewing on a BIG mail.
>OutLook times out before I've even finished reading the mail in. I can't
>think of any way of doing a "keep alive" in a pop session. Unless I want to
>check message sizes somehow (Not easy) I'm fked. ANY BRIGHT IDEAS GREATFULLY
>RECEIVED. Or if anyone knows of a good place to talk to Perlites about
>networking I would be greatfull for that too... I'm still quite new to Perl
>and havn't found any good places to ask techy network questions.
>

Can't you just turn off the network tests?

Matt.



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