On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 12:25:47PM -0500, Nick Fisher wrote:

| > > I realy HATE OutLook. In there was annother Win32 mail
| > > client that could cope with the ammount of email I handle I
| > > would move to it.
| >
| > Pine. I switched to pine here at work, and the windows version is quite
| > nice. You have to get used to some of its idiosyncracies, but once you
| > do, it's a killer mail client. The only thing it lacks is a "mark all
| > read" feature, but you can do that in something like 4 key presses, so
| > it's not fatal (note that I'm testing out Mozilla's mail client at the
| > moment, and while it's not bad, it's a bit flaky and I hate the GUI-ness
| > of it). You certainly miss things like "prefer text/plain", and "zoom"
| > when you switch to something else.
|
| Hummmm... That takes me back a bit. Pine is cool but how do you read HTML
| mail? I don't often need to but it is sorta required.

I prefer mutt as my mailer, regardless of whether I'm on unix or
windows.  It has cygwin packages too.  Cygwin also includes 'links'.
This is what I do for HTML :

~~~~~~~~~~~
auto_view text/html
# prefer the plain text version
alternative_order text/plain text/html
~~~~~~~~~~~

In /etc/mailcap I've got :

~~~~~~~~~~~
text/html; /usr/bin/links -dump '%s'; copiousoutput; description=HTML Text; 
nametemplate=%s.html
~~~~~~~~~~~

Mutt will automatically dump the html to a temp file, invoke links on
it, redirect the pure-ascii output to another temp file and invoke my
pager on it.  It's really slick.  If you prefer, you can modify the
mailcap entry so that links uses the console instead of your pager.
You could set it up to use any program you want -- such as Mozilla,
Netscape, or IE -- if you want features links doesn't have.

| I've not looked at Mozilla's client but I used to play with Eudora. The
| problem I've had with everything except OutLook is that they don't scale
| well. Mail boxs get courrupted, folders take hours to open and a generally
| bad time is had by all.

Use the 'maildir' format, hope your system has a decent disk cache,
and use mutt :-).  I've got a folder that had 3000+ messages.  The
first time it was opened it would take several seconds to load (my
disk isn't too fast either), but after that it would load just as fast
as a small folder (using mutt, of course).

| I'm the Postmaster/Hostmaster for a pantload of domains and I get
| spammed in to the ground (Not for long I hope!). Not to mention all
| the mails I get from customers, vendors and our monitoring systems.
| I leave my mail client runnig at night so that I don't have to wait
| for 50+ mails to download every morning.

Use fetchmail.  Run it from cron periodically to move the messages to
the local system.  

I don't know how you can actually get any work done on a windows
system without cygwin!

-D

-- 

If your life is a hard drive,
Christ can be your backup.


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