[RBW] Re: SFRandonneurs "Fall" Populaire - July 17th

2010-07-15 Thread Mike
> One (of many no doubt) thing I will never understand about my fellow > human beings is why they want to take something as exhilaratingly free > as riding a bike and tie it down with rules, cards, controles. Don't > we get enough of this every where else we turn? > > I realize I am in a clear and

Re: [RBW] Re: SFRandonneurs "Fall" Populaire - July 17th

2010-07-14 Thread CycloFiend
on 7/14/10 1:10 PM, Anne Paulson at anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: > I see. SFR is putting on a nice 75 mile bike ride for people who feel > like riding a beautiful 75 mile bike ride. Nothing wrong with that, > and undoubtedly the people who ride this will have an great time. I > hope everyone on t

Re: [RBW] Re: SFRandonneurs "Fall" Populaire - July 17th

2010-07-14 Thread CycloFiend
on 7/14/10 1:36 PM, Steve Palincsar at palin...@his.com wrote: > Maybe, but aren't populaires traditionally 100km? I thought a big part > of the "introduction" was to the rules, brevet cards, controles, > basically everything that differentiates randonneuring from centuries or > other long rides.

Re: [RBW] Re: SFRandonneurs "Fall" Populaire - July 17th

2010-07-14 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2010-07-14 at 13:54 -0700, JoelMatthews wrote: > > One (of many no doubt) thing I will never understand about my fellow > human beings is why they want to take something as exhilaratingly free > as riding a bike and tie it down with rules, cards, controles. Don't > we get enough of this e

Re: [RBW] Re: SFRandonneurs "Fall" Populaire - July 17th

2010-07-14 Thread Thomas Nezovich
Tapebubba asks "Has anyone on this board ever done a 1200k?" This is Tom Nezovich in Cleveland. I am inscribed in the great book for completing Paris Brest Paris in 1987 and 1991. I also completed Boston Montreal Boston in 1992. On Jul 14, 2010, at 1:52 PM, William wrote: > Has anyone on this b

[RBW] Re: SFRandonneurs "Fall" Populaire - July 17th

2010-07-14 Thread JoelMatthews
> I thought a big part of the "introduction" was to the rules, brevet cards, > controles, > basically everything that differentiates randonneuring from centuries or > other long rides. One (of many no doubt) thing I will never understand about my fellow human beings is why they want to take somet

Re: [RBW] Re: SFRandonneurs "Fall" Populaire - July 17th

2010-07-14 Thread Thomas Haggerty
I believe there are a total of ten 200k brevets this year set up by the four local clubs (SF, Santa Rosa, Santa Cruz, Davis), all of which could be considered an "introduction" for those riders capable. Four of them are still coming up. Each of those four clubs offered longer rides (300, 400 and

Re: [RBW] Re: SFRandonneurs "Fall" Populaire - July 17th

2010-07-14 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2010-07-14 at 13:10 -0700, Anne Paulson wrote: > I see. SFR is putting on a nice 75 mile bike ride for people who feel > like riding a beautiful 75 mile bike ride. Nothing wrong with that, > and undoubtedly the people who ride this will have an great time. I > hope everyone on this list who

[RBW] Re: SFRandonneurs "Fall" Populaire - July 17th

2010-07-14 Thread Esteban
Ann - there are longer riders - they're called brevets. Plenty of scheduled 200Ks in the area. The Populaire is kinda for everyone. For a lot of folks, 70 miles is a big deal, and its a way to get their head around randonneuring and work up to a 200K. Or at least they can take part. But its al

Re: [RBW] Re: SFRandonneurs "Fall" Populaire - July 17th

2010-07-14 Thread Anne Paulson
I see. SFR is putting on a nice 75 mile bike ride for people who feel like riding a beautiful 75 mile bike ride. Nothing wrong with that, and undoubtedly the people who ride this will have an great time. I hope everyone on this list who participates will enjoy themselves; I know I would if I rode i

[RBW] Re: SFRandonneurs "Fall" Populaire - July 17th

2010-07-14 Thread William
That race is nuts! Wow, thanks for pointing it out. Do you think PBP folks would call them wimps since they only run 18- hours a day? Probably not. Hat's off to all the endurance athletes. On Jul 13, 3:25 pm, Tim Butterfield wrote: > On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 4:42 PM, William wrote: > > To my

Re: [RBW] Re: SFRandonneurs "Fall" Populaire - July 17th

2010-07-14 Thread Tim Butterfield
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 4:42 PM, William wrote: > To my knowledge there is no other physical endeavor > that anyone would call a 'sport' that comprehends doing anything for > 90 hours basically continuously. Some of the ultra-running events fit that criteria. The Self-Transcendence 3100 Mile Rac

[RBW] Re: SFRandonneurs "Fall" Populaire - July 17th

2010-07-14 Thread William
Dang, I lost the bet. Great research. Has anyone on this board ever done a 1200k? On Jul 13, 9:30 pm, "Bill M." wrote: > A little web searching reveals: > > According to the RUSA website, 4,500 PBP riders were expected in 2007, > and in 2011 there will be a cap at that number to prevent 'satura

Re: [RBW] Re: SFRandonneurs "Fall" Populaire - July 17th

2010-07-14 Thread Thomas Haggerty
To keep this post from confusing some interested riders, I felt compelled to respond. Yes, challenging one's self by riding a longer distance than ever before can be one reason to get involved in randonneuring, but it is far from the only reason. If one can't appreciate beautiful scenery, friendl

[RBW] Re: SFRandonneurs "Fall" Populaire - July 17th

2010-07-13 Thread Bill M.
A little web searching reveals: According to the RUSA website, 4,500 PBP riders were expected in 2007, and in 2011 there will be a cap at that number to prevent 'saturation' of the controls. There are other 1200's, too. The fastest PBP riders will do it in the low 40-hour range. 30 or so Americ

[RBW] Re: SFRandonneurs "Fall" Populaire - July 17th

2010-07-13 Thread William
But Anne, there are no special barriers to entering the 200k and 300k events. They are cheap to free as well, so you can consider those your 'Populaire' intro to rando rides. Your 'entry level' just happens to be a level or three higher than most of us. On Jul 13, 8:37 pm, Anne Paulson wrote: >

Re: [RBW] Re: SFRandonneurs "Fall" Populaire - July 17th

2010-07-13 Thread Anne Paulson
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 2:42 PM, William wrote: > Clearly <7.5 hours for a 115k ride is not a big physical challenge for > a typically experienced cyclist. > > That said, I do not think it is difficult to argue that a 200k is an > impressive day's work, but those 200k rides are these Rando-folks'

[RBW] Re: SFRandonneurs "Fall" Populaire - July 17th

2010-07-13 Thread William
Clearly <7.5 hours for a 115k ride is not a big physical challenge for a typically experienced cyclist. That said, I do not think it is difficult to argue that a 200k is an impressive day's work, but those 200k rides are these Rando-folks' easy rides. 300k is epic. 400k is crazy. 600k, 1000k, 1

Re: [RBW] Re: SFRandonneurs "Fall" Populaire - July 17th

2010-07-13 Thread CycloFiend
on 7/13/10 8:57 AM, Ray Shine at r.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote: > Please forgive my general ignorance about randoneuring (heck, I'm not even > certain how to pronoun it!) but what is the objective? Is it to finish each > leg or segment in a given time frame? To find your own way without pavement >

[RBW] Re: SFRandonneurs "Fall" Populaire - July 17th

2010-07-13 Thread Esteban
It'll be fun. I'll be there on the Protovelo, so long as my old Volvo makes it up the 5. Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Jul 13, 9:49 am, nathan spindel wrote: > I'll be there on my lilac & white RB-1! See you guys there. > > -nathan > > > > On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 10:28 PM, RonLau wrote: > > Rem

Re: [RBW] Re: SFRandonneurs "Fall" Populaire - July 17th

2010-07-13 Thread nathan spindel
I'll be there on my lilac & white RB-1! See you guys there. -nathan On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 10:28 PM, RonLau wrote: > Reminder to all Bay Area folks, this coming Sat. is the ride, hope to > see you folks out there. > > > > On Jul 1, 3:42 pm, RonLau wrote: >> Jim, >> >> I am planning on being th

[RBW] Re: SFRandonneurs "Fall" Populaire - July 17th

2010-07-13 Thread Lee
times and can't see why > they > allow 7.5 hours to finish it.  What am I not getting? > > thank you for all Rando 101 info. > > Ray > > > From: CycloFiend > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > Sent: Tue, July 13, 2010 8:43:45 A

Re: [RBW] Re: SFRandonneurs "Fall" Populaire - July 17th

2010-07-13 Thread Ray Shine
llion times and can't see why they allow 7.5 hours to finish it. What am I not getting? thank you for all Rando 101 info. Ray From: CycloFiend To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, July 13, 2010 8:43:45 AM Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: SFRandonn

Re: [RBW] Re: SFRandonneurs "Fall" Populaire - July 17th

2010-07-13 Thread CycloFiend
on 7/12/10 10:28 PM, RonLau at ron...@ronlau.com wrote: > Reminder to all Bay Area folks, this coming Sat. is the ride, hope to > see you folks out there. This is a wonderful event with a great group of riders - more info here: http://sfrandonneurs.org/fall-2010-115k-populaire.htm No charge for

[RBW] Re: SFRandonneurs "Fall" Populaire - July 17th

2010-07-13 Thread Mike
On Jul 13, 8:48 am, Ray Shine wrote: > I've never done one of these events. My question is, must one's bike be > equipped with fenders and lights in order to participate? > Hey Ray, you don't have to have fenders, that's not a RUSA rule or anything. I'm sure you're well aware of the advantages

[RBW] Re: SFRandonneurs "Fall" Populaire - July 17th

2010-07-13 Thread JoelMatthews
> I'm not quite sure why it's called the "Fall" Populaire, but hey, maybe it's > a Randonneur thing... Perhaps an ironic reference to Bay area summer temps which are often cooler than in the fall? On Jul 1, 1:18 am, CycloFiend wrote: > Just starting to turn the calendar over to the new month and

Re: [RBW] Re: SFRandonneurs "Fall" Populaire - July 17th

2010-07-13 Thread Ray Shine
I've never done one of these events. My question is, must one's bike be equipped with fenders and lights in order to participate? From: RonLau To: RBW Owners Bunch Sent: Mon, July 12, 2010 10:28:24 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: SFRandonneurs "Fall&qu

[RBW] Re: SFRandonneurs "Fall" Populaire - July 17th

2010-07-12 Thread RonLau
Reminder to all Bay Area folks, this coming Sat. is the ride, hope to see you folks out there. On Jul 1, 3:42 pm, RonLau wrote: > Jim, > > I am planning on being there.  Last email with Rob Hawks he said we do > need to register but the event is free. > > Hope to see you and others there. > > R

[RBW] Re: SFRandonneurs "Fall" Populaire - July 17th

2010-07-01 Thread RonLau
Jim, I am planning on being there. Last email with Rob Hawks he said we do need to register but the event is free. Hope to see you and others there. Ron On Jun 30, 11:18 pm, CycloFiend wrote: > Just starting to turn the calendar over to the new month and realized there > is an excellent, free

[RBW] Re: SFRandonneurs "Fall" Populaire - July 17th

2010-07-01 Thread William
I'm eager to give it a try. If I can convince my wife to move around our normal Saturday schedule, I'll be there. Now, which bike? On Jun 30, 11:18 pm, CycloFiend wrote: > Just starting to turn the calendar over to the new month and realized there > is an excellent, free event planned mid-month