[RBW] Re: Rivendells and Fenders

2008-12-10 Thread todd22123
For the original post, the fenders would look much better if they followed the curve of the wheels more. For the rear one, could raise the part under the brake and put a little more space between the chainstay bridge and the fender. Then just move the fenders down the supports closer to the whee

[RBW] Re: Rivendells and Fenders

2008-12-09 Thread Jay Sinn
Big Paulie wrote: > On Dec 9, 8:20�am, Jay Sinn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have to go with the barbaric grocery bag on the seat > > Paper or plastic? :-) Obviously paper, I spend hours cutting out intricate doilys to carefully place on my beloved B-135. You know, to keep it dry. :-/

[RBW] Re: Rivendells and Fenders

2008-12-09 Thread Big Paulie
On Dec 9, 8:20 am, Jay Sinn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have to go with the barbaric grocery bag on the seat Paper or plastic? :-) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To p

[RBW] Re: Rivendells and Fenders

2008-12-09 Thread Jay Sinn
I have to go with the barbaric grocery bag on the seat, with a well saved frame (fork included). What I'm really after is that line of sight on the front tire to spot ice patches. For controlled falls on the snow and ice I would perfer not to have the incubrence of added metal or plastic. On Dec

[RBW] Re: Rivendells and Fenders

2008-12-08 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 3:50 PM, David Estes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 2:38 PM, EricP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> >> The only complaint I have about plastic fenders is they are all too >> short. Even with the mudflap, Planet Bike fenders could be about 3 >> inc

[RBW] Re: Rivendells and Fenders

2008-12-08 Thread EricP
I'm using the Polar insulated water bottle. There are other ways. A thermos will also work. The better way - when it's really cold out, ride short distances. Preferably from coffee shop to coffee shop. Makes it easier to warm up. Strange. Even though had been off the bike for a long time unt

[RBW] Re: Rivendells and Fenders

2008-12-08 Thread beckertronix
SKS fenders have an aluminum core, which is probably what prevents them from the freezing crack. -tim SFNM On Dec 7, 1:26 pm, Steve Palincsar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 2008-12-07 at 14:10 -0600, Tim McNamara wrote: > > I have Esge/SKS fenders on my bikes.*  Here in Minnesota it gets  

[RBW] Re: Rivendells and Fenders

2008-12-07 Thread Tim McNamara
On Dec 7, 2008, at 5:34 PM, Eric Norris wrote: > On Dec 7, 2008, at 2:38 PM, EricP wrote: > >> >> My bikes are all set up with fenders presently. Two with metal, and >> the Atlantis has plastic SKS fenders. Overall, I find the metal ones >> more secure if one uses a decent amount of Loc-tite i

[RBW] Re: Rivendells and Fenders

2008-12-07 Thread Eric Norris
10 degrees? My God, man! How do you keep your water bottle from freezing? --Eric [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org On Dec 7, 2008, at 2:38 PM, EricP wrote: > > My bikes are all set up with fenders presently. Two with metal, and > the Atlantis has plastic SKS fenders.

[RBW] Re: Rivendells and Fenders

2008-12-07 Thread David Estes
On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 2:38 PM, EricP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The only complaint I have about plastic fenders is they are all too > short. Even with the mudflap, Planet Bike fenders could be about 3 > inches longer in front. > > You're right, short in the front of the front, as well as t

[RBW] Re: Rivendells and Fenders

2008-12-07 Thread EricP
My bikes are all set up with fenders presently. Two with metal, and the Atlantis has plastic SKS fenders. Overall, I find the metal ones more secure if one uses a decent amount of Loc-tite in installation. But am less than happy with the clearance of the Berthoud fenders at the seatstay bridge

[RBW] Re: Rivendells and Fenders

2008-12-07 Thread George Schick
I agree. Very lovely bike. While I was looking at the various pics of it on the Flicker web site I decided to move up a few levels to see what Jonny Cycles was all about and in one of the photostreams he shows some painting being done by "Keith Anderson." Now, this name rang a bell with me beca

[RBW] Re: Rivendells and Fenders

2008-12-07 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sun, 2008-12-07 at 14:10 -0600, Tim McNamara wrote: > I have Esge/SKS fenders on my bikes.* Here in Minnesota it gets > pretty cold, although I basically don't ride below 30 degrees. > Masochistic pleasure is not my cup of tea. Anyway, I have had two > old-style Zefal black plastic fe

[RBW] Re: Rivendells and Fenders

2008-12-07 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 7:45 AM, JoelMatthews > > The reason is when metal fenders get out of > whack, you really need to be at your home shop to get them back into > whack. SKS are much easier to pull or prod back into place, and are > more amenable to a duct tape or zip tie fix if it comes down t

[RBW] Re: Rivendells and Fenders

2008-12-07 Thread Tim McNamara
On Dec 7, 2008, at 10:39 AM, JoelMatthews wrote: > >> But aren't the plastic fenders more apt to get out of whack? Over >> the >> years I've had plastic fenders snap off from brittleness from the >> cold, >> and I've had them take on a perverse curve from no obvious cause that >> was very di

[RBW] Re: Rivendells and Fenders

2008-12-07 Thread JoelMatthews
> Is the Rohloff a retrofit also, or just the disk brakes? Rohloff and discs are original. Some miscommunication between Oswald and I had the bike come with a unicrown fork. Could not live with that. Jon made the new fork, a stem with an incorporated Rohloff shifter mounter on the right side,

[RBW] Re: Rivendells and Fenders

2008-12-07 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sun, 2008-12-07 at 09:47 -0800, JoelMatthews wrote: > Maybe inartfully written. In order to remove the fender, I had to > take off the wheel to loosen the bolt that attached the bottom front > of the fender to the lower chain stay bridge. I actually had to re-tighten that screw on an SKS ins

[RBW] Re: Rivendells and Fenders

2008-12-07 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sun, 2008-12-07 at 09:47 -0800, JoelMatthews wrote: > Getting to your other post about expert installation, check out Jon > Kendziera's handywork when he installed the Berthoud's on my Oswald: > > http://flickr.com/photos/jonnycycles/sets/72157606490025925/ Now that, I think, definitely qual

[RBW] Re: Rivendells and Fenders

2008-12-07 Thread JoelMatthews
> And that would be no different regardless of what the fenders were made > of. Well, the new SKS fenders bracing is a single looping piece of metal with the adjustments made on the outside of the fender rather than at the braze on eyelet. I am able to adjust them while reaching down from a stan

[RBW] Re: Rivendells and Fenders

2008-12-07 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sun, 2008-12-07 at 08:39 -0800, JoelMatthews wrote: > > What other sort of fender mishaps have you experienced on the road, that > > would require shop tools to rectify? > > Aside from just the general pain trying to adjust the play at the p- > clamps with the bike on uneven ground and only th

[RBW] Re: Rivendells and Fenders

2008-12-07 Thread Andrew Karre
> Let me modify that "expertly" to "competently" or "carefully". Yes, I was having a Sunday morning ego-trip. I've installed all my fenders, and I'm no expert. It's not difficult--just time consuming. Pleasantly so, to me. On Dec 7, 11:06 am, Steve Palincsar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun,

[RBW] Re: Rivendells and Fenders

2008-12-07 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sun, 2008-12-07 at 08:38 -0800, Andrew Karre wrote: > Aesthetics aside, the main benefit of metal fenders is that they, when > expertly installed, work MUCH better than plastic. Let me modify that "expertly" to "competently" or "carefully". I've successfully installed two sets, and you can't

[RBW] Re: Rivendells and Fenders

2008-12-07 Thread JoelMatthews
> But aren't the plastic fenders more apt to get out of whack? Over the > years I've had plastic fenders snap off from brittleness from the cold, > and I've had them take on a perverse curve from no obvious cause that > was very difficult to correct. Cheaper plastic is less resistant to cold. I

[RBW] Re: Rivendells and Fenders

2008-12-07 Thread Andrew Karre
Aesthetics aside, the main benefit of metal fenders is that they, when expertly installed, work MUCH better than plastic. This isn't to say that plastic fenders are ineffective--not at all. SKS fenders are much better than nothing, and I see why they and the Planet Bike equivalents are popular wit

[RBW] Re: Rivendells and Fenders

2008-12-07 Thread Bill M.
The SKS's wouldn't look so bad if the installer had done a better job of getting the curve to match the tire line. They look kind of slapped together and cheapen the whole bike as they are. It's hard to tell if there's enough room at the seat stay bridge to get the fender up as high as it ought

[RBW] Re: Rivendells and Fenders

2008-12-07 Thread Atlantean
I think I would have removed the fenders, and mentioned in the listing that they were included. I agree with everyone here; plastic fenders have their place, and this particular bike would look a lot better withou them. We have bikes around here with metal fenders, some with plastic fenders, and s

[RBW] Re: Rivendells and Fenders

2008-12-07 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sun, 2008-12-07 at 06:45 -0800, JoelMatthews wrote: > It depends on how the buyer intends to use it. > > The bike is definitely a looker. Metal fenders are definitely better > looking than plastic. But plastic makes more sense in some > situations. > > When I read the description it really

[RBW] Re: Rivendells and Fenders

2008-12-07 Thread JoelMatthews
It depends on how the buyer intends to use it. The bike is definitely a looker. Metal fenders are definitely better looking than plastic. But plastic makes more sense in some situations. When I read the description it really appears to me someone took off the racks, but it is definitely kitted

[RBW] Re: Rivendells and Fenders

2008-12-06 Thread Aaron Thomas
I totally agree. Those fenders detract from a remarkably attractive bike. I love the shade of blue. I have had to exercise extreme discipline in not bidding on this, which just happens to be my size. On Dec 6, 10:35 pm, rob markwardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I know the Rivendell gang thinks f