Nice, dude.
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 4:32 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
> I was very fortunate (thank you, God -- I got in thanks to
> near-subprime-standards at the beginning of the crest of the R E boom)
> to find a small duplex in a modestly high end infill project, and this
> just before the develo
I was very fortunate (thank you, God -- I got in thanks to
near-subprime-standards at the beginning of the crest of the R E boom)
to find a small duplex in a modestly high end infill project, and this
just before the developers realized that they could get much more for
their lots than they charged
On Jan 27, 11:02 am, bfd wrote:
> On Jan 25, 10:56 am, "cyclotour...@gmail.com"
> wrote:> Car-free and car-light are two different things, and both
> > commendable!!! I doubt I will ever be car-free, but every year I try
> > to drive less and less. It's fun, saves money, gives me great
> > "p
Probably speaks more to starting a family than anything else. That
too will pass like anything else, and he'll enjoy it in the meantime.
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 2:02 PM, bfd wrote:
>
>
> On Jan 25, 10:56 am, "cyclotour...@gmail.com"
> wrote:
>> Car-free and car-light are two different things, a
o: RBW Owners Bunch
Sent: Thu, January 27, 2011 11:02:02 AM
Subject: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18
On Jan 25, 10:56 am, "cyclotour...@gmail.com"
wrote:
> Car-free and car-light are two different things, and both
> commendable!!! I doubt I will ever be car-free, but
On Jan 25, 10:56 am, "cyclotour...@gmail.com"
wrote:
> Car-free and car-light are two different things, and both
> commendable!!! I doubt I will ever be car-free, but every year I try
> to drive less and less. It's fun, saves money, gives me great
> "parking", a little exercise, doesn't fund I
You are absolutely correct, Michael. well said!
From: Michael Richters
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wed, January 26, 2011 9:28:03 PM
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18
Perhaps it isn't fair to nitpick Grant Peterson on
Perhaps it isn't fair to nitpick Grant Peterson on this, given that
I'm generally with him on the spirit of his message, but I seem to
have a disagreement with one detail or another of almost all of his
points in that post.
First -- The Idaho Vehicle Code does not permit cyclists to treat red
lig
Car-free and car-light are two different things, and both
commendable!!! I doubt I will ever be car-free, but every year I try
to drive less and less. It's fun, saves money, gives me great
"parking", a little exercise, doesn't fund Islamic extremists. All my
local errands are done on foot or bik
On Jan 19, 5:51 am, JoelMatthews wrote:
> Liked the editorial, but disagree with one of GP's points.
>
> I gave up cars completely and flying for all but work and emergencies
> 6 years ago because they are such wasteful modes of transit. To me it
> is a green choice. I realize my actions mean
I work for a small company (6-8 people), and my employers both ride
bikes to work. I'm the one who's fallen off the wagon. In fact, I'm
going to go get things together so I can ride instead of drive (the
two miles).
The bookkeeper locks her bike up on the street, and everyone else
hangs theirs in
+1, Ray.
As far as commuting/my workplace, my commute is 17 miles one way and I
currently work at a large facility that was recently voted a high-
level bicycle friendly business by the League of American
Bicyclists. They have great bicycle parking in a garage outside the
main entrance, and even
Some of us use bikes as a primary means of transportation.
Transportation involved going to places you may not really want to get
to (jury duty, dentist appointments, etc) with varying levels of being
late.I don't believe transportation is chosen on the fun factor,
cars are just the default. J
Wow this thread has jumped all over the place but back to cars and
bikes...
What I find irritating are the too polite motorists. They will wave
me through a 4 way stop when it is their turn to go. They will stop
and wave me across three other lanes of busy traffic as if everyone
will stop becaus
Nah that won't happen. Income will go up, inflation will go nuts and
all will be relative. We'll pay more yes, and we'll deal with it. I
run a svc company w/ a fleet of 30 +/- vehicles. If fuel goes up, my
rates will go up, and on and on. Folks will say, "well we just will
use someone else" T
> That being said, there are a lot more factors, incentives, and
> advantages about commuting by bicycle in a place like Holland and it's
> easy to see why we can't have that here.
With Chinese and Indian fuel consumption pushing gas prices up, it
will not be long before U.S. prices are within spi
What you have to consider about Holland is that gasoline there is the
equivalent of around $7.91/gallon (one of the highest in Europe) and
they have a much different tax system that allows massive funding to
public transit. They have a progressive income tax rate that peaks at
52% (down from 60% a
om
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18
This is a fantastic discussion!! No one is calling any names, and we are
orbiting around the bicycle in our discussion.
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 4:07 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J
wrote:
> This thread seems to be veering off into politica
com
> Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18
>
> Send it into space.
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>
> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Leslie wrote:
> > IMHO, the biggest problem is, it's cheaper to get more uranium than it
> > is to reprocess the spe
: Thursday, January 20, 2011 4:05 PM
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18
Send it into space.
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Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18
On Thu, Jan
On Jan 19, 6:47 am, Tim McNamara wrote:
> On Jan 19, 2011, at 7:26 AM, newenglandbike wrote:
>
> > The point about bicycle culture/laws in Holland, and the reasonability
> > of incentives for commuting in a safe, non-polluting manner is
> > something that's resonated with me for a long time. S
Yes, in-situ leaching. it's another horrifying process.
Unfortunately even if done without any 'accidents', mineral
precipitation is a problem, and the leachates are toxic waste. And,
how are they not introducing anything that isn't already there? What
happens to the groundwater? You are rig
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Leslie wrote:
> IMHO, the biggest problem is, it's cheaper to get more uranium than it
> is to reprocess the spent fuel. They 'could' reprocess it, and
> recover, maybe upwards of 75%, for further use as nuclear fuel; it
> just costs more than getting more. S
On Jan 20, 12:15 pm, newenglandbike wrote:
> The trade-off for nuclear power is a legacy of radioactive waste that
> will last for hundreds of thousands of years. Not to mention that
> the mining of uranium is an environmentally catastrophic process,
> displacing roughly 100,000 tons of radioact
, 20 Jan 2011 05:19:40
> To: RBW Owners Bunch
> Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18
>
> The developed world's been enjoying incredibly cheap energy courtesy
> of the Carboniferous Period for the past 150 years. The entir
Editorial of Jan. 18
The developed world's been enjoying incredibly cheap energy courtesy
of the Carboniferous Period for the past 150 years.The entire
economy of the developed world is completely, inextricably,
irrefutably based upon it.Fossil fuel deposits are kind of solar
energy stor
I commute by bike every single day regardless of the weather. I live
in Portland so it's not that big a deal. My commute is only 4.5 miles.
Still, I've never had a license and so never had a car. I grew up in
SF and a car is a complete burden there. In my youth I got around by
MUNI, skateboard and
The developed world's been enjoying incredibly cheap energy courtesy
of the Carboniferous Period for the past 150 years.The entire
economy of the developed world is completely, inextricably,
irrefutably based upon it.Fossil fuel deposits are kind of solar
energy stored in battery cells- bu
Problem is, a good size plant covers approx 7,000 acres. Everybody
has a bitch when putting one up.
I make my own electricity (36 p.v. panels, grid-tied), and heat my own
hot water (2 glycol filled , roof-mounted panels), and the utility
buys up what O over produce, but only to a point. If the cr
I would say that riding a bike for any reason, including "being green"
is good and to be supported. I agree that saying biking is green is
neither the best nor the easiest sell, but if that particular
reasoning gets someone on a bike who can't imagine it being fun and
liberating, they may soon enou
t they transport the
> family bikes by auto to the nearest bike path to do the rides. Of course I
> would do that! Such activities aren't "green." They're just family outings;
> plenty good enough in my book.
>
> From: Sean Whelan
> To: rbw-owners-bunch@google
"B) I concur w/ Robert Z, wind/solar can't handle the load until some
great extraordinary development in battery technology comes along. "
Not so fast.concentrating solar thermal breaks that misconceived
limitation of solar. The sun heats up a reservoir of working fluid.
The hot working fluid
Oh man, I can be a real drag on this subject - just ask my family and
all my ex-friends.
I'm 90% bike and 10% car these days. That is hard for me to believe
but it has happened...not overnight but slowly over the past couple of
years. You can't jump to the absolute - you have to evolve to it over
On Jan 19, 7:10 am, Kelly Sleeper wrote:
> and then there is organized bike rides that have 100's of people driving
> many miles to ride a bike a short distance then drive back home.
I don't know is this a problem? I commute by bike and when I ride on
the weekends, I usually ride from my house.
RoadbikeRider recommends: exhale more forcefully than inhale...but it
doesn't make much difference in the long run...
http://www.roadbikerider.com/463.htm#TRY
*7. TRY THIS ON YOUR NEXT RIDE
*
* Breathe out hard, breathe in easy.*
Here's a technique we learned from an Olympic road champion,
But did you inhale?
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Bill Gibson wrote:
> although I think I did once, or twice, in the 1970's...
>
>
>
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Rolling stop/Idaho stop/California stop at stopsigns and...traffic lights.
If there's any traffic at all, I respect lighted signals.
If it's 3:00 AM and nothing has happened for 2 cycles of the light, and the
detection loop isn't recognizing my existence, I'll tell the judge that the
light malfunc
Oi! Lots of thoughts
A) I applaud anyone who can commute via their Rivendell.
Unfortunately for me, it's 40 mi from driveway to parking lot one
way... I just can't commute by bike. I do carpool; so, four of us
make the trip together, instead of each of us in four
automobiles. (And whilst
No complaints, life has been very, very good to me.
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 4:48 PM, Seth Vidal wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 4:40 PM, robert zeidler
> wrote:
>> Well then you obviously are flush and for that I congratulate you.
>>
>
> Robert,
> You've just talked about buying multiple bikes
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 4:40 PM, robert zeidler
wrote:
> Well then you obviously are flush and for that I congratulate you.
>
Robert,
You've just talked about buying multiple bikes on this list I think
you can't protest too much about your taxes.
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Well then you obviously are flush and for that I congratulate you.
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Scott G. wrote:
>
>
> On Jan 19, 9:14 am, robert zeidler BTW, the
> reason the Euro's
>> can put money into bike lanes, alt trans projects, etc., is because
>> they don't have much of a defense bu
I know we all try to do our part ( at least members of this forum) to
minimize our car time and impact to precious resources. In Southern
California there are very limited mass transit choices and large
distances to cover. I would love to live close by work and be able to
commute by bike. I chose
> Interesting that within 24 hours of one another Grant lauds the
> benefits of the Idaho-stop and Bike Snob NYC instructs cyclists to
> follow the letter of the law, especially stopping at all red lights.
Did not read BSNYC but coming from one who does most of his riding in
a densely populated ur
On Jan 19, 9:14 am, robert zeidler BTW, the
reason the Euro's
> can put money into bike lanes, alt trans projects, etc., is because
> they don't have much of a defense budget-we do that for them!!!
I am pleased to pay for the European defense, Militarism is to Europe
as
alcohol is to alcoholic
_
From: Sean Whelan
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wed, January 19, 2011 9:53:13 AM
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18
At least they are riding bikes and interested in bikes. While most of us on
this
list use our bikes for everything from fast brevets
m: Kelly Sleeper
> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Wed, January 19, 2011 7:10:53 AM
> Subject: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18
>
> and then there is organized bike rides that have 100's of people driving
> many miles to ride a bike a short distance then dr
Interesting that within 24 hours of one another Grant lauds the
benefits of the Idaho-stop and Bike Snob NYC instructs cyclists to
follow the letter of the law, especially stopping at all red lights.
On Jan 19, 10:10 am, CycloFiend wrote:
> on 1/19/11 9:25 AM, JoelMatthews at joelmatth...@mac.com
Well put Jim. I've read that speech a bunch of times and it's
chilling that a product of a military academy (one of the finest
educations one can have) would warn us of this impending threat.
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 12:01 PM, CycloFiend wrote:
> on 1/19/11 8:04 AM, JoelMatthews at joelmatth...@m
on 1/19/11 9:25 AM, JoelMatthews at joelmatth...@mac.com wrote:
> I am very much aware my decision process on this makes me an outlier.
And I wholeheartedly applaud your efforts and actions, Joel.
Full stop.
- J
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y'all might consider working to realize sunday streets- / ciclovia-style
street closures in your cities on the weekends. it's a great way to
illustrate the potential for alternative use of our public street space.
I know this happens in many places already, but i think it's one of our
better chanc
of those fancy dual suspension mountain bikes.
All biking is good biking in some way...
Cheers,
Sean
--- On Wed, 1/19/11, Ray Shine wrote:
From: Ray Shine
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2011, 12:09 PM
You hit
> My second comment is actually a vote of support for you not a criticism.
My apologies for misunderstanding.
On Jan 19, 10:56 am, robert zeidler wrote:
> Chill my brother The oil lobby has obviously earned it's money.
> It sucks but it's a reality of life everywhere on this planet.
>
> My
> And I didn't really read anything in the article that said those were
> mutually exclusive. The main point seemed to be that the people who would
> adopt cycling because of green-ness alone are more of an outlier. Getting
> people to act on goals which potentially play out over generations is n
> Sure riding a bike makes a difference. If you're riding a bike in place of
> driving a car, you're keeping about 1.1 pounds of carbon dioxide out of per
> mile out of the atmosphere (if you have a ten mile round trip, that's about
> 2200 pounds of CO2 per year). And that's only one greenhous
do well on
paved
roads, or some such.
From: Kelly Sleeper
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wed, January 19, 2011 7:10:53 AM
Subject: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18
and then there is organized bike rides that have 100's of people drivin
on 1/19/11 8:04 AM, JoelMatthews at joelmatth...@mac.com wrote:
>> Cycling has many uses and is wonderful .. but riding just for green reasons
>> is or would be weak for me. I ride because I like riding.
>
> I got rid of my car for green reasons. I certainly enjoy riding my
> bike.
And I didn'
Actually I do ride year round but most people "put 'em away".
Starting over every spring like we used to do in the 70's, sucks
big-time. Every season has it's joys and pitfalls. It's always worth
it as long as you don't finish a ride in an ambulance.
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 9:39 AM, newenglandbik
14:04 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18
>> From: zeidler.rob...@gmail.com
>> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
>>
>> Living where I live in New England, cycling year round is impractical,
>> plus for my business, I have to be places,
Chill my brother The oil lobby has obviously earned it's money.
It sucks but it's a reality of life everywhere on this planet.
My second comment is actually a vote of support for you not a criticism.
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 9:38 AM, JoelMatthews wrote:
>> Dept of Consumer Protection (or who
It could be argued that some of us have organized our lives around having to
drive everywhere, 30-mile (or more) one-way commutes, living in places where
transportational cycling is simply too difficult or dangerous, etc. That's
the arrangement that many people choose for various reasons, and th
> and then there is organized bike rides that have 100's of people driving
> many miles to ride a bike a short distance then drive back home. In St
> Louis, Mo Trailnet has one of these type rides weekly. I would wager a
> single weekend ride here wipes out all the progress the comuters make in o
The best post of this thread! I agree: if it's not fun, why do it? Too
much modern neo-puritanism out there already.
Tho' kudos to those who ride in snow and *enjoy* it.
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 8:10 AM, Kelly Sleeper wrote:
> and then there is organized bike rides that have 100's of people driv
If it is the same hub (and even that is conjecture), I have a tough
time seeing how an on/off switch down there can deal with bad
weather. Snow, ice, and slush pile up on my current hubs. Can see it
shorting out a switch in fairly short order.
BTW, my Schmidt hub is probably out of the ordinary,
and then there is organized bike rides that have 100's of people driving
many miles to ride a bike a short distance then drive back home. In St
Louis, Mo Trailnet has one of these type rides weekly. I would wager a
single weekend ride here wipes out all the progress the comuters make in one
d
> You get the health benefits of cycling: less fat, better cardiovascular
> health, stronger muscles, better bones, a better > brain. As someone who
> works with the elderly, those benefits are not to be sneezed at.
You are also saving your fellow tax payers money. Bikes have minimal
infrastr
On Jan 19, 2011, at 7:26 AM, newenglandbike wrote:
> The point about bicycle culture/laws in Holland, and the reasonability
> of incentives for commuting in a safe, non-polluting manner is
> something that's resonated with me for a long time. Sometimes I long
> to move to a place like that, but
> BTW, the reason the Euro's can put money into bike lanes, alt trans projects,
> etc., is they don't have much of a
> defense budget-we do that for them!!! Think about it, U.S. bases all over
> Europe, and trust me, the governments
> want us there to do that heavy lifting.
What are highways fr
On Jan 19, 9:14 am, robert zeidler wrote:
> Living where I live in New England, cycling year round is impractical,
I live in New England and bicycle year round; lots of people do. Not
saying your business makes it possible with all that travel, but it's
possible (and practical) for lots of p
> Dept of Consumer Protection (or whomever) had mandated this so that
> bio-fuels didn't get "a competitive advantage"(!). .
Any support for this, other than a comment by someone with a financial
stake in keeping the prices higher?
> Lastly, so there is no confusion, I respect the gentleman's ri
Robert, very nicely put. I agree with everything you said. But, we won't use
up all the "dino" fuel until long after you and I are gone.
jimP
> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 09:14:04 -0500
> Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18
> From: zeidler.rob...@gmail.co
Living where I live in New England, cycling year round is impractical,
plus for my business, I have to be places, sometimes from Boston, to
Hartford, to Brattlebor all in the same day.
To that end, I needed to able to carry things, people, plow my
driveway when needed etc., So I dive a 4 dr Dodge
Liked the editorial, but disagree with one of GP's points.
I gave up cars completely and flying for all but work and emergencies
6 years ago because they are such wasteful modes of transit. To me it
is a green choice. I realize my actions mean very little with most
here in Chicago wtill in cars
Wow, that's a good read."Cars and bikes both are vehicles, in the
same way that a Glock and a Squirtgun are both guns" is a kind of
potent analogy right now, however imprecise analogies may be.
The point about bicycle culture/laws in Holland, and the reasonability
of incentives for commuting i
> VO says 50-90% less drag
Even if true, all relative.
I have a bike with a Scmidt Dyno, one with a Maxicar front hub, and
another with Campy Record. When the lights are off, there is no
noticeable drag.
Sure it may be cheaper then a Schmidt. But then as anyone who buys a
Rivendell ought to kn
.and Grant referred to the game-changer dynamo hub. Presumably
the same hub that Velo Orange has been talking up. If Riv and VO are
talking about the same part, then it's a dynamo hub that allows you to
totally disengage the dynamo mechanism when you aren't using the
light, so a lot less drag
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