What you have to consider about Holland is that gasoline there is the
equivalent of around $7.91/gallon (one of the highest in Europe) and
they have a much different tax system that allows massive funding to
public transit.  They have a progressive income tax rate that peaks at
52% (down from 60% a few years ago), a corporate tax that peaks at
25.5% and a "sales" tax that peaks at 19%.

That being said, there are a lot more factors, incentives, and
advantages about commuting by bicycle in a place like Holland and it's
easy to see why we can't have that here.

On Jan 19, 7:26 am, newenglandbike <matthiasbe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Wow, that's a good read.    "Cars and bikes both are vehicles, in the
> same way that a Glock and a Squirtgun are both guns" is a kind of
> potent analogy right now, however imprecise analogies may be.
>
> The point about bicycle culture/laws in Holland, and the reasonability
> of incentives for commuting in a safe, non-polluting manner is
> something that's resonated with me for a long time.   Sometimes I long
> to move to a place like that, but then I wonder why shouldn't I just
> try to be be more active in trying to help change happen here, which
> i'm woefully not and just riding a bike doesn't really do
> anything.     It seems futile riding a bike for 'green' reasons, or
> because you think it's right thing to do-- even if you do it for those
> reasons--   and it's easy to end up suppressing frustration at the
> status quo, but reading stuff like this always brings it back to the
> surface, which is probably a good thing.    um I doubt that makes any
> sense. which means it's probably too early for me to be typing right
> now.   yesterday's ride home west of boston was a slush-ice
> nightmare.   Thank god for studded tires but even they were out of
> their league.     we were expecting some weather, but if i knew it
> would be that bad I would've stayed home.
>
> On Jan 18, 7:23 pm, James Warren <jimcwar...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > There's an interesting editorial on rivbike right now about how bikes 
> > aren't the same as cars.
>
> > It reminds me of something I often remember when teaching students: the 
> > idea that doing what's right and fair for a kid is sometimes not the same 
> > thing for any two given kids.
>
> > -Jim W.

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