At least they are riding bikes and interested in bikes. While most of us on 
this list use our bikes for everything from fast brevets to grocery runs and 
commuting, that is not the case for everyone. There are numerous reasons why 
someone might choose to rack a bike and drive it to an off-road spot and ride. 
It may not be right for you and for me, and it might not be environmentally 
defensible, but I'd much rather have them riding a bike after a short drive, 
than just deciding to "go for a drive" up to Pt. Reyes or something.

When I first started riding again after many years off the bike, I was really 
afraid to ride in traffic. I would drive my bike to a bike path and ride, then 
drive home. I knew it was a bit ridiculous, but that is the place where I was 
in terms of my comfort level, fitness level and confidence. Several years 
later, I am more in line with the majority of folks here. I commute to work as 
often as the weather and business commitments allow. I ride to run errands in 
the neighborhood and I seem to only rack the bike on a car when a group of us 
carpool to a century or other organized ride in the region.

At least those folks are spending money at bike shops / on bike stuff. My local 
bike shop doesn't carry many of the things that I want, but I email the owner 
and he orders it in for me rather than having me just order it from someone in 
the interwebs. It works for both of us, and he pays his mortgage selling plenty 
of those fancy dual suspension mountain bikes.

All biking is good biking in some way...

Cheers,
Sean

--- On Wed, 1/19/11, Ray Shine <r.sh...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

From: Ray Shine <r.sh...@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2011, 12:09 PM

You hit the nail on the head, Kelly, and you are spot-on correct.  I am always 
amused and annoyed at the same time on my weekend rides into Marin County from 
San Francisco.  It's very common to see the full suspension MTB folks drive 
across the bridge and park near Mike's Bikes, take their expensive MTB off the 
trunk rack, then go tackle the trails on Mt. Tam.  I know they are from the 
city (just 8 miles away) because of the residential parking permits on the 
bumpers of their cars.  I also get a laugh out of the carbon road riders who 
will haul the bike over White's Hill on the back of their SUV, then park on the 
other side and tear off a fast ride out around Nicasio reservoir and back to 
the car.  I see this sort of canceling out thing most, however, with the MTB
 riders.  I suppose they would offer as a justification that the bike's tires 
don't do well on paved roads, or some such.


From: Kelly Sleeper <tkslee...@gmail.com>
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wed, January 19, 2011 7:10:53 AM
Subject: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18


and then there is organized bike rides that have 100's of people driving many 
miles to ride a bike a short distance then drive back home.  In St Louis, Mo 
Trailnet has one of these type rides weekly.  I would wager a single weekend 
ride here wipes out all the progress the comuters make in one day. Not saying 
don't comute, just saying I don't see cycling as green. It's entertainment for 
most folks or exercise but also an excuse / reason to drive thier cars many 
more miles.
 
Cycling has many uses and is wonderful .. but riding just for green reasons is 
or would be weak for me.   I ride because I like riding.
 
Kelly
 
 



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