+1, Ray.

As far as commuting/my workplace, my commute is 17 miles one way and I
currently work at a large facility that was recently voted a high-
level bicycle friendly business by the League of American
Bicyclists.   They have great bicycle parking in a garage outside the
main entrance, and even have a workbench with tools in the lower level
of the garage.   It's pretty awesome.    That being said, due to the
location of my work I have to leave home *really* early to get to work
if I want to miss a $&*#storm of rush hour traffic, and leave late if
i want to miss it again.

My last job had even better parking-  I just brought my bike into work
and leaned it up against a wall.   That was ideal.

-Matt

On Jan 22, 3:37 pm, Way Rebb <grayc...@mac.com> wrote:
> Some of us use bikes as a primary means of transportation.
> Transportation involved going to places you may not really want to get
> to (jury duty, dentist appointments, etc) with varying levels of being
> late.    I don't believe transportation is chosen on the fun factor,
> cars are just the default.  Judging by the people who arrive at work
> exhausted from traffic I certainly enjoy my ride to work more.
> Judging by the people who made a fuss about orbiting around finding a
> parking spot at jury duty, I certainly enjoyed my bike/BART ride to
> the Hayward courtroom more.
>
> The fun factor is only a part of the reason I use a bike.  Other
> reasons are I've saved literally thousands of dollars, which is
> reflected in my bank account, by not driving.  Although I've donated
> $0 directly to oil companies I have donated $bazillions in taxes for
> freeways; to huge military projects to protect the oil fields; to
> police, fire, clean up crews that have to respond to pile ups etc.
> This cheap oil is terribly expensive.
>
> Let's fund "cheap oil" the way we fund schools and people will be on
> bikes soon enough.
>
> -Ray
>
> On Jan 19, 7:39 am, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The best post of this thread! I agree: if it's not fun, why do it? Too
> > much modern neo-puritanism out there already.
>
> > Tho' kudos to those who ride in snow and *enjoy* it.
>
> > On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 8:10 AM, Kelly Sleeper <tkslee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > and then there is organized bike rides that have 100's of people driving
> > > many miles to ride a bike a short distance then drive back home.  In St
> > > Louis, Mo Trailnet has one of these type rides weekly.  I would wager a
> > > single weekend ride here wipes out all the progress the comuters make in 
> > > one
> > > day. Not saying don't comute, just saying I don't see cycling as green. 
> > > It's
> > > entertainment for most folks or exercise but also an excuse / reason to
> > > drive thier cars many more miles.
>
> > > Cycling has many uses and is wonderful .. but riding just for green 
> > > reasons
> > > is or would be weak for me.   I ride because I like riding.
>
> > > Kelly
>
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