I know we all try to do our part ( at least members of this forum) to
minimize  our car time and impact to precious resources. In Southern
California there are very limited mass transit choices and large
distances to cover. I would love to live close by work and be able to
commute by bike. I chose to live in a suburban area for the safety and
health of my wife and children. On the weekends though my car rarely
gets driven as I am able to live walking or cycling distances from
everything  I need to live, food, bank , Dr.' office, shopping and
entertainment.
It will take considerable effort to effect change in the general
population and I think it everyone of our jobs to help that process by
being a bike advocate and showing that it can work ( even in LA!).

~Mike

On Jan 19, 11:52 am, JoelMatthews <joelmatth...@mac.com> wrote:
> > Interesting that within 24 hours of one another Grant lauds the
> > benefits of the Idaho-stop and Bike Snob NYC instructs cyclists to
> > follow the letter of the law, especially stopping at all red lights.
>
> Did not read BSNYC but coming from one who does most of his riding in
> a densely populated urban area, I can understand the different take on
> traffic signals.
>
> It is one thing to obey traffic signals only when vehicles are present
> in predominately rural Idaho - or suburban and semi-rural East SF Bay
> for that matter.  It is another altogether in dense urban areas where
> vehicles, pedistrians and other bikes are always present.
>
> Some of my closest calls of late have been with other cyclists who
> oblivious to traffic signals and basic right of way principals ride
> directly into my path or in front of me.  Some have even given me the
> owned glower when I apply the brakes heavily to avoid them.  By far
> the worst was last fall when a dad with a daughter on a bike trailer,
> boy on small bike close behind, and wife taking up the rear all blew
> through a stop sign on a small street directly in front of me on a
> larger street that had no stop sign.  I had to jump onto the curb to
> avoid hitting the boy.  Mom gave me an apologetic look.  Dad never
> even turned around to see what happened.
>
> On Jan 19, 12:33 pm, William <tapebu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Interesting that within 24 hours of one another Grant lauds the
> > benefits of the Idaho-stop and Bike Snob NYC instructs cyclists to
> > follow the letter of the law, especially stopping at all red lights.
>
> > On Jan 19, 10:10 am, CycloFiend <cyclofi...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > > on 1/19/11 9:25 AM, JoelMatthews at joelmatth...@mac.com wrote:
>
> > > > I am very much aware my decision process on this makes me an outlier.
>
> > > And I wholeheartedly applaud your efforts and actions, Joel.
>
> > > Full stop.
>
> > > - J
>
> > > --
> > > Jim Edgar
> > > cyclofi...@earthlink.net
>
> > > Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com
> > > Current Classics - Cross Bikes
> > > Singlespeed - Working Bikes
>
> > > Gallery updates now appear here -http://cyclofiend.blogspot.com
>
> > > "That which is overdesigned, too highly specific, anticipates outcome; the
> > > anticipation of outcome guarantees, if not failure, the absence of grace."
>
> > > William Gibson - "All Tomorrow's Parties"- Hide quoted text -
>
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