> My second comment is actually a vote of support for you not a criticism.
My apologies for misunderstanding. On Jan 19, 10:56 am, robert zeidler <zeidler.rob...@gmail.com> wrote: > Chill my brother.... The oil lobby has obviously earned it's money. > It sucks but it's a reality of life everywhere on this planet. > > My second comment is actually a vote of support for you not a criticism. > > > > On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 9:38 AM, JoelMatthews <joelmatth...@mac.com> wrote: > >> Dept of Consumer Protection (or whomever) had mandated this so that > >> bio-fuels didn't get "a competitive advantage"(!). . > > > Any support for this, other than a comment by someone with a financial > > stake in keeping the prices higher? > > >> Lastly, so there is no confusion, I respect the gentleman's right to > >> follow his conscience. He is free and right to do so, as long as what > >> he does, does not pee in the water upstream from where others drink. > > > How can that even be a worry based on my comments? There is no way my > > decision to give up a car in Chicago (and btw, I have a 15 minute bike > > ride to the CTA train here on the Northwest Side of the city) has a > > negative impact on any car drivers. On the other hand, whether one > > accepts climate change or not, there can be no argument fossil fuel > > use has a far reaching negative impact. Is your point peeing upstream > > only matters when the pee-er is in the decided minority? > > > On Jan 19, 8:14 am, robert zeidler <zeidler.rob...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Living where I live in New England, cycling year round is impractical, > >> plus for my business, I have to be places, sometimes from Boston, to > >> Hartford, to Brattlebor all in the same day. > > >> To that end, I needed to able to carry things, people, plow my > >> driveway when needed etc., So I dive a 4 dr Dodge diesel pick-up. > >> Earlier in it's life I was able to buy B100 (pure veg diesel fuel), > >> and in colder whether, down to around 30 deg, I'd run B-20 (20% of > >> same). Below that only traeted fuel will work w/o the dreaded gelling > >> that occurs. > > >> A funny thing started coming to my attention. Every time the price of > >> "dino" diesel went up, Bio-fuels went up so they were always slightly > >> higher. When I asked why, my Bio-fuel dealer told me that the state > >> Dept of Consumer Protection (or whomever) had mandated this so that > >> bio-fuels didn't get "a competitive advantage"(!). I gave up at that > >> point. I commute (35 miles one-way) when I can, drive when I need to > >> and do what's necessary to make a living. > > >> I've spent time in Evanston IL, just off the Red Line (I think) and > >> never drove anywhere, even caught the train out to O'hare. Pretty > >> nice but that will never, ever happen in this day of NIMBY. People > >> won't allow it. But if not for that system, those residents would be > >> driving also, without a doubt. > > >> As stated in another thread, I'm hoping I see the day when there is no > >> more fuel oil, coal etc., available-use it all up as fast as you can, > >> be glutenous in your consumption. We'll then get nukes, and > >> everything will be electric. Without those reliable sources of power, > >> which solar/wind will never provide, we > >> re screwed anyway. That goes for the rest of the world. Nobody in a > >> developing country thinks about 50 years down the road, that's a > >> luxury we have in the U.S., Europe, etc. BTW, the reason the Euro's > >> can put money into bike lanes, alt trans projects, etc., is because > >> they don't have much of a defense budget-we do that for them!!! Think > >> about it, U.S. bases all over Europe, and trust me, the governments > >> want us there to do that heavy lifting. > > >> Lastly, so there is no confusion, I respect the gentleman's right to > >> follow his conscience. He is free and right to do so, as long as what > >> he does, does not pee in the water upstream from where others drink. > > >> Sorry, a bit long. > > >> RGZ > > >> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 8:51 AM, JoelMatthews <joelmatth...@mac.com> wrote: > >> > Liked the editorial, but disagree with one of GP's points. > > >> > I gave up cars completely and flying for all but work and emergencies > >> > 6 years ago because they are such wasteful modes of transit. To me it > >> > is a green choice. I realize my actions mean very little with most > >> > here in Chicago wtill in cars and O'Hare handling so much unnecessary > >> > flying. > > >> > I believe my choices are the correct ones. So I follow my conscious, > >> > whether it fixes the planet or not. > > >> > On Jan 19, 7:26 am, newenglandbike <matthiasbe...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> Wow, that's a good read. "Cars and bikes both are vehicles, in the > >> >> same way that a Glock and a Squirtgun are both guns" is a kind of > >> >> potent analogy right now, however imprecise analogies may be. > > >> >> The point about bicycle culture/laws in Holland, and the reasonability > >> >> of incentives for commuting in a safe, non-polluting manner is > >> >> something that's resonated with me for a long time. Sometimes I long > >> >> to move to a place like that, but then I wonder why shouldn't I just > >> >> try to be be more active in trying to help change happen here, which > >> >> i'm woefully not and just riding a bike doesn't really do > >> >> anything. It seems futile riding a bike for 'green' reasons, or > >> >> because you think it's right thing to do-- even if you do it for those > >> >> reasons-- and it's easy to end up suppressing frustration at the > >> >> status quo, but reading stuff like this always brings it back to the > >> >> surface, which is probably a good thing. um I doubt that makes any > >> >> sense. which means it's probably too early for me to be typing right > >> >> now. yesterday's ride home west of boston was a slush-ice > >> >> nightmare. Thank god for studded tires but even they were out of > >> >> their league. we were expecting some weather, but if i knew it > >> >> would be that bad I would've stayed home. > > >> >> On Jan 18, 7:23 pm, James Warren <jimcwar...@earthlink.net> wrote: > > >> >> > There's an interesting editorial on rivbike right now about how bikes > >> >> > aren't the same as cars. > > >> >> > It reminds me of something I often remember when teaching students: > >> >> > the idea that doing what's right and fair for a kid is sometimes not > >> >> > the same thing for any two given kids. > > >> >> > -Jim W.- Hide quoted text - > > >> >> - Show quoted text - > > >> > -- > >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > >> > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> > For more options, visit this group > >> > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.-Hide quoted > >> > text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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