Simple green, water and a green scratchy pad. If that doesn't work
then Schwalbe black walls. In Seattle I'm heading towards an all
Schwalbe fleet.
On Dec 23, 4:48 pm, Patrick in VT wrote:
> dab straight out of the tube and spread with a gloved index finger, or
> whatever fingertip you have th
I always tell my 7th grade students...focus on yourself, not what
others are doing.
On Dec 23, 10:34 pm, Mike wrote:
> On Dec 23, 9:15 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
>
> > I am with Robert here in his deprecation of zip ties: why use zip ties
> > if you can find something that works and looks better w
On Dec 23, 9:15 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
> I am with Robert here in his deprecation of zip ties: why use zip ties
> if you can find something that works and looks better without (third
> condition) undue (note the qualification) exertion or expense? A pop
> rivet or simple nut 'n' bolt are often v
Jim,
At 09:08hrs you posted about cleaning tan sidewalls and suggested that
maybe you would switch to a tire with a black sidewall. Then at
10:14hrs you started this thread. Was this a calculated attack on the
sensibilities of some of the group members? Your first post kind of
sputtered but this o
I hope the inventor of the zip-tie didn't die broke.
Beth
THIS---forget about the pro-Riv context or any associations---THIS
quote belongs in a coffee table book. I wish I'd said it, but I'm glad
to know the person who did. There's only one complicated word in it
("inventor"), but it was necessar
Well, once you get your mind right zip ties just might be the
preferred solution in many
applications. Nuts, screws, and washers are so yesterday.
...as you can see, I'm converted.
-JimD
On Dec 23, 2010, at 9:15 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
I am with Robert here in his deprecation of zip ties: wh
G'day to all and may you all have a wonderfully relaxing Holiday
experience.
The Hunq is getting painted now. Should take delivery in the next
week or two.
I'm putting 26" wheels on it and am most curious to get input from the
group as to which tires would most match the riding terrain.
This is
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On Dec 23, 2010, at 6:56 PM, Ray Shine wrote:
> Wow! I've always used zipties for fendres and baskets. I'm curious how one
> efficiently mounts a basket to a front rack wi
Patrick,
Thank you for the below argument!! I"m quoting you to my wife as an
excuse to purchase the Poncho and Rain Hat on Riv which she thinks is
weird.. and I just quoted it to her verbally as I stated I needed it
for my mental well being.. saftey and individualism.
Owe ya a beer next one of t
Toe straps, of course. What else? -- So much more elegant. (Sorry,
no pix -- my last basket went out the door some five years ago; but
trust me ...)
On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 7:56 PM, Ray Shine wrote:
> Wow! I've always used zipties for fendres and baskets. I'm curious how one
> efficiently mo
I am with Robert here in his deprecation of zip ties: why use zip ties
if you can find something that works and looks better without (third
condition) undue (note the qualification) exertion or expense? A pop
rivet or simple nut 'n' bolt are often very easy, are certainly
sturdier and, IME, look be
I don't have photos, but its a wonderful wheel. Its the newer hub
model, so you have to use the White Industries splined cog. It comes
with a 15 tooth cog. All silver, 32 holes. The rim is NOT offset. I
dont remember the spoke details. I'm sure theyre fine. $200 shipped.
Contact off list
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sorry for the poor photos, yall know how hard it is to capture a
rivendell in pictures.
Its a re branded Saluki, with canti mounts.
All beat up, no dents. Comes with Paul brakes and Nitto seatpost. It's
as butterscotch as the firs
Someone on this list suggested I shim the steerer on my too small 1990
Fisher Sphinx so I can get the bars as high as on my Sam Hillborne,
because there don't seem to be any tall 1 1/4" stems available. How
would one actually go about doing that? Would this be solid enough for
off-road use? Could a
Tool kit of the ages: Duct tape, WD/40, magic marker, Leatherman multi-
tool and zip ties.
But my elitist leather mudflaps are attatched to my fancy pants
stainless steel fenders with
frou-frou hardware.
On Dec 23, 6:56 pm, Ray Shine wrote:
> Wow! I've always used zipties for fendres and basket
Wow! I've always used zipties for fendres and baskets. I'm curious how one
efficiently mounts a basket to a front rack with anything other than zip ties?
Pix to back it up?
From: Philip Williamson
To: RBW Owners Bunch
Sent: Thu, December 23, 2010 5:26:24 P
Wow, would-a-thunk-it?
Zip ties vs nuts-n-bolts turns into a mac vs pc like kerfuffle?
I can only say I've come to have a whole new regard for zip ties after
trying them.
-JimD
On Dec 23, 2010, at 3:39 PM, Anne Paulson wrote:
And yet, what works better than zip ties to attach one of the
On Thu, 2010-12-23 at 18:03 -0800, JimD wrote:
> One man's koolaid is another man's pinot noir.
Bottoms up!
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On Dec 23, 2010, at 2:18 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote:
On Thu, 2010-12-23 at 13:56 -0800, JimD wrote:
Seriously, if you get your mind right (and it took some time for me
to
do so), zip ties aren't a 'hack'.
They're an ingenious solution to
Well the 'correct' use of zip ties involves purposeful, even tasteful,
selection of color.
Otherwise, you are correct sir, it's just another hack.
-JimD
On Dec 23, 2010, at 2:59 PM, Thomas Lynn Skean wrote:
But to me they really do look a lot
better. Black zip-ties are such a hack. :)
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On Dec 23, 2:18 pm, Steve Palincsar wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-12-23 at 13:56 -0800, JimD wrote:
>
> > Seriously, if you get your mind right (and it took some time for me to
> > do so), zip ties aren't a 'hack'.
> > They're an ingenious solution to many faster/fastening problems.
>
> Yes, but the Salu
...and on that note, Merry Christmas to all, and to all a good night!
On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Mike wrote:
> On Dec 23, 4:18 pm, robert zeidler wrote:
>
> > These bikes may get ridden more (doubtful), but they most certainly will
> be
> > repaired more. I'm thinking mostly of Grant's
On Dec 23, 4:18 pm, robert zeidler wrote:
> These bikes may get ridden more (doubtful), but they most certainly will be
> repaired more. I'm thinking mostly of Grant's zip-tie-ing mud-flaps and
> fenders. It's hack work.
I don't see how a zip tied fender flap will lead to a bike getting
repai
The ones with zip-ties through the bosses. (Just kidding!)
On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-12-23 at 16:31 -0800, Erik C wrote:
> >
> > > Well, metal fenders look better, work better and weigh less. Plastic
> > > fenders are cheaper and easier to remove. A
Not sure where the insult part comes in, I'm certainly not intentionally
insulting anyone, it's a free country. Let me explain further.
I've been reading this list forever also. People buy these bikes ($3K for a
custom), hang the finest components they can afford on them, and obsessively
discuss
dab straight out of the tube and spread with a gloved index finger, or
whatever fingertip you have that approximates the width of your
sidewall. it does go on thick if you don't apply properly, i.e.
spread very thinly and evenly. aqualseal dries clear, but leaves a
bit of a shine. it does keep t
On Thu, 2010-12-23 at 13:13 -0800, rperks wrote:
> I have been looking at all the pictures of the Saluki frames I could
> find, and nowhere did I see the fittings for the "mud flap".
Mud flaps are mounted by bolting them to the bottom edge of the fender.
http://www.freewebs.com/palincss/angle_side
On Thu, 2010-12-23 at 16:31 -0800, Erik C wrote:
>
> > Well, metal fenders look better, work better and weigh less. Plastic
> > fenders are cheaper and easier to remove. Anything else?
>
> I'd add durability to the chromoplastic side.
That appears to be a function of how well the metal fenders
robert,
for as long as i've been on this list, any number of folks have felt the
need, as you did, to tell us how stupid/silly/hack we are for putting
zip-ties on thousand dollar bicycles. and, for as long as i've been on this
list, people have been responded to appropriately to insult with defens
They have their place.
On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 7:32 PM, Kelly Sleeper wrote:
> Zip ties have a place and many viable uses. A hack in one place, a good
> fastener in another.
>
> Wouldn't using zips on the mud flap give more clearance for tires? I know
> those lock nuts are limiting on my ahh.
Metal fenders front anyway are longer and will protect that light mounted in a
mini rack.
Kelly
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On Dec 23, 2010, at 6:31 PM, Erik C wrote:
>
>
>> Well, metal fenders look better, work better and weigh less. Plastic
>> fenders are cheaper and easier to remove. Anything
Zip ties have a place and many viable uses. A hack in one place, a good
fastener in another.
Wouldn't using zips on the mud flap give more clearance for tires? I know
those lock nuts are limiting on my ahh.
Could be zips are even practical ... At times.
H
Kelly
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> Well, metal fenders look better, work better and weigh less. Plastic
> fenders are cheaper and easier to remove. Anything else?
I'd add durability to the chromoplastic side.
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Well said. Regardless of one's motivation and intentions, these are pricey
bikes to get to the final build-up. Not trying to appear as some elitist,
but it is what what is. Grant uses these things because he's experimenting
with stuff. I've never received any bike from them built-up with plasti
looks very nice Andrew. The black goes nice with that beautiful icy
blue. It seems like you could easily fit fenders on there too.
I had the same feeling when I got my new-to-me 58 Ram, I liked the fit
better than my 56 Sam ( now sold). The Rom/Ram are a much more lively
ride than the Sam's. The t
On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 7:18 PM, robert zeidler wrote:
> Very true. My comment was more about doing something right, so things
> don't go hanging/falling off., etc., and somehow got all these defensive
> remarks. These bikes may get ridden more (doubtful), but they most
> certainly will be repai
Very true. My comment was more about doing something right, so things don't
go hanging/falling off., etc., and somehow got all these defensive remarks.
These bikes may get ridden more (doubtful), but they most certainly will be
repaired more. I'm thinking mostly of Grant's zip-tie-ing mud-flaps
And yet, what works better than zip ties to attach one of the huge
Rivendell Saddlesacks to a rear rack? As far as I can tell, those
beautiful big bags are designed for zip ties.
On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 11:16 AM, robert zeidler
wrote:
> With no disrespect to anyone, especially during this joyous
On Thu, 2010-12-23 at 14:59 -0800, Thomas Lynn Skean wrote:
>
> And, though I love the look of metal fenders and am soon to try them
> out, let us not pretend that metal fenders are uniformly better in
> every way than chromoplastic or even normal plastic fenders.
> (Chromo)plastic fenders have pr
I learned quickly when I began working in the telecom industry (over
40 years ago) that BLACK zip-ties are the ONLY ones that will remain
largely unaffected by weather and UV radiation. All other colors
eventually fade, crack, and break. That's also the reason why the
outer sheath on plastic insu
Behold HILLANTIS!!!
Very nice indeed. Congrats!
BB
On Dec 23, 12:28 pm, yoshi wrote:
> Looks great!
> I've got a green 52 with grand bois hetres and I absolutely love the
> ride.
>
> On Dec 23, 8:21 am, Earl Grey wrote:
>
>
>
> > Sweet, though how one could pay extra NOT to get the orange,
+1, Ms. H.
+1
(Though I might qualify that "job" with "good-paying".)
When I first mounted a mud flap on a bicycle fender, it was a black
leather mud flap that I mounted with screws/washers/nuts/loc-tite.
Onto SKS (chromoplastic) fenders. One screw fell out after a couple
hundred miles of what w
On Thu, 2010-12-23 at 13:56 -0800, JimD wrote:
>
>
> Seriously, if you get your mind right (and it took some time for me to
> do so), zip ties aren't a 'hack'.
> They're an ingenious solution to many faster/fastening problems.
Yes, but the Saluki doesn't present those problems.
And yes, in this
I've considered using latex paint on tan bike tire sidewalls. The
speedblends I had actually wore out the tread, and not the sidewall,
so I figured the painted coating protected them.
I like black tires. They last longer, they look better in the crud,
and they go with everything.
Philip
Philip
The mudflaps look great. The zips are very understated (and lighter
than milk).
My only problem with zipties is I've had them get brittle and break,
so I don't trust them.
Philip
Philip Williamson
www.biketinker.com
On Dec 23, 10:14 am, JimD wrote:
> For the longest time I've eschewed the use
Seriously, if you get your mind right (and it took some time for me to
do so), zip ties aren't a 'hack'.
They're an ingenious solution to many faster/fastening problems.
Of course some have made the same claims for duct tape and even
bailing wire.
-JimD
On Dec 23, 2010, at 12:44 PM, Beth
I have a mounted-once but otherwise unused 12cm Nitto lugged quill / stem for
sale (I'm assuming this is a 12cm - it measures more like 12.5cm c2c).
It's "dull-brite" like most of em. In great shape - never actually ridden,
just mounted for feel (and didn't work for me with m-bars). Stem is
Oh, Ive got fenders, hammered Honjos, and they have been 'properly'
installed.
Jitensha Studio did the job and those folks don't hack.
I don't think I'd go so far as to use zip ties to install Honjo fenders.
Wouldn't be prudent, wouldn't be wise.
Plastic zip ties with aluminum wouldn't be the
On Dec 23, 12:46 pm, Allan in Portland wrote:
> At the risk of validating certain fob stereotypes> Merry Christmas,
> -Allan
When I think of a cycling fobs I always imagine Ignatius Jacques
Reilly pedaling along on an Albatrossed Atlantis with squealing
brakes, zip tied baskets and tweed bags al
I have been looking at all the pictures of the Saluki frames I could
find, and nowhere did I see the fittings for the "mud flap".
On Dec 23, 12:09 pm, Steve Palincsar wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-12-23 at 10:14 -0800, JimD wrote:
>
> > I'd been procrastinating about installing mudflaps on the Saluki.
>
I've got a nearly perfect condition nitto technomic deluxe stem with a
25.4mm clamp and 11cm length and I'm looking to trade it for one with
a 26mm clamp and 7-9cm length.
Thanks
Lee
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Looks great!
I've got a green 52 with grand bois hetres and I absolutely love the
ride.
On Dec 23, 8:21 am, Earl Grey wrote:
> Sweet, though how one could pay extra NOT to get the orange, I don't
> understand. :) Love the bar tape.
>
> To get more accurate color, set the white balance on your cam
I have read that the aquseal is a bit thick and harder to apply, that
is why I went with the theatrical latex. The latex dries translucent,
so the sidewalls still look tan. Also, they do make clear but it cost
more. You can find the latex at you local year round costume shops, I
happened to be w
Thanks Patrick. $7 a tube ain't too bad. At the risk of validating
certain fob stereotypes, I think I might give it a try. :-)
Merry Christmas,
-Allan
On Dec 23, 12:30 pm, Patrick in VT wrote:
> On Dec 23, 1:03 pm, rperks wrote:
>
> > There are latex products for protecting tubular tires, but n
On Dec 23, 2:16 pm, robert zeidler wrote:
> With no disrespect to anyone, especially during this joyous time, plastic
> ties on a +/- $4000.00 bike is just atrocious. Learn the use of a few basic
> tools and use the correct fasteners. For a "get-you-home" or temp repair,
> OK, but in the words o
Have been running zip ties for mud flaps on my Sam Hillborne since it
was new. Actually prefer them to screws on plastic fenders.
Then again, the bike doesn't even have matching mudflaps. So am not
the fashionista with this.
Back in the 1980's Moots designed their mountain bike fenders to be
mo
On Dec 23, 1:03 pm, rperks wrote:
> There are latex products for protecting tubular tires, but not easy to come
> by.
"aquaseal" is popular with folk that ride cx tubulars in the muck -
http://cyclocrossworld.stores.yahoo.net/ducysise.html.
it can be found at diving shops, outdoor apparel store
FYI. http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/2126769822.html
Ryan
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On Thu, 2010-12-23 at 10:14 -0800, JimD wrote:
>
> I'd been procrastinating about installing mudflaps on the Saluki.
> Couldn't get around to chasing down the appropriate hardware.
> Motivated by the rain, I tempted fate and used black zip ties.
>
A Saluki will fit fenders properly with no ha
If zip ties were covered by a patent and cost 6 bucks a pair people
would be raving over them like bee's knees.
In keeping with the sidewall thread, maybe some one needs to invent
some brass zip ties... Phil's Brassy Ties.
Merry Christmas,
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Maybe because it rains so much here in Portland grey sidewalls aren't
that big a deal. Tan sidewalls on the contrary look as spiffy as new
shoes. And are quite rare, only good for a few brief weeks in the late
summer.
Also, I think the porousness of the rubber is why they can never clean-
up remot
if reach is the problem, move the handlebars back and up.
moving the saddle forward to fix reach/back problems is no-no #1, imho.
but i agree with many here; the OP's solution lies in yoga, stretching and
repetition of the mantra "belly button to the top tube"--all of this helped
me, too.
cheers
to my eye, a tan sidewall that doesn't have that grime screams "i don't ride
my bike in the rain."
be happy you do, and clean up come the spring if you feel the need.
On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Mike wrote:
> I like the look of tan sidewalls when they're new. Being that it rains
> so much
i'd wager the set of "hack" bicycles with zip ties get ridden more.
do what works, do what lets you get out and ride quickly and easily.
stop bemoaning zip-ties, i think we all get the point and some of us think
it's absolutely silly and even profoundly status-oriented to eliminate
simplicity jus
I'm fine with zipties. They work well and I can't see them when I'm
actually riding the bike. I do wish they were reused.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335...@n00/4635658276/in/set-72157624126049816/
Zipties? What zipties? I don't see know stinking zipties!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335...
I like the look of tan sidewalls when they're new. Being that it rains
so much here in Portland they don't stay clean for long. I've grown
use to the look of black sidewalls. In fact, I'm really quite fond of
Schwalbes and as soon as RBW gets Marathon Supremes back in stock I'll
be putting a pair o
With no disrespect to anyone, especially during this joyous time, plastic
ties on a +/- $4000.00 bike is just atrocious. Learn the use of a few basic
tools and use the correct fasteners. For a "get-you-home" or temp repair,
OK, but in the words of my first shop-teacher, it's "hack".
RGZ
On Thu,
Jim,
I have not been able to get the gray stuff off tan sidewalls.
Scrubbing with a stiff brush with warm water and soap certainly helps
but doesn't get it all.
I have not noticed a reduction in tire life due to the "grey stuff" on
the tires, I have worn down the tread of tires with tan turned to
I have had good results with a solution of simple green, water and some type of
small brush. So far this fall/winter we have had very little precipitation, so
no cleaning needed (yet).
Dave Nawrocki
Fort Collins, CO
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From: "JimD"
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegrou
Execution is everything, but I suspect that not all zip ties are equal. UV
light will take a toll on the plastic, some kinds more than others, so be
vigilant and carry spares. While not in the league with fully integrated
design and the custom hardware fashioned by the great French Constructeurs
an
In my experience, they never look quite the same again. But a squirt
of Simple Green in a bucket of hot soapy water goes a long way. With
a scrub brush or Scrubbie.
Lynne F
On Dec 23, 9:08 am, JimD wrote:
> I've been commuting on my Saluki through a series of rain storms here
> in Northern C
Sounds like a good test for Jan Heine!
On 12/23/2010 10:25 AM, james black wrote:
On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 10:20, David Faller wrote:
I don't see why under-maintaining one's bike, car, whatever, is a badge of
honor. A skateboard is a pretty low-tech piece of equipment that's designed
and built
On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 10:20, David Faller wrote:
> I don't see why under-maintaining one's bike, car, whatever, is a badge of
> honor. A skateboard is a pretty low-tech piece of equipment that's designed
> and built for abuse. My $3,000 bike and it's $100 tires are worthy of some
> upkeep.
Do
I don't see why under-maintaining one's bike, car, whatever, is a badge
of honor. A skateboard is a pretty low-tech piece of equipment that's
designed and built for abuse. My $3,000 bike and it's $100 tires are
worthy of some upkeep.
On 12/23/2010 10:06 AM, james black wrote:
On Thu, Dec 23
For the longest time I've eschewed the use of zip ties on my bikes.
To moi, for the longest time, they just seemed wrong for beautiful
Rivendell bicycles.
Boy was I wrong.
I'd been procrastinating about installing mudflaps on the Saluki.
Couldn't get around to
chasing down the appropriate
On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 09:08, JimD wrote:
> I like tires with tan sidewalls to my eye they look greatt but in persistent
> rainy conditions they turn mucky gray.
I consider those grey sidewalls to be a badge of honor, a natural sign
of actual usage. Your preferences might vary.
When I was a chi
PJ would probably eat the rubber, not a good combo. There are latex
products for protecting tubular tires, but not easy to come by. I
experimented with theatrical liqud latex, but it was hard to keep off
the rims and dried with a tacky finish. On the plus side after a
month and a half it pealed
I've been meaning to ask a similar question for a few weeks now.
Anyone ever tried petroleum jelly as a sidewall prophylactic? I'm
thinking something that would fill the rubber pores and coat the
surface with a hyrdophobic layer would be perfect for keeping the
aluminum slurry from accumulating on
Thanks, Lee!!!
WOW, it's like being presented with a candy dish...
Those are ALL beautiful... I'll bet each one will darken very
nicely... especially that green...oh boy... The orange appears (at
least from the pictures) more like a burnt orange or even a light
brown... And it's nice to see Antiq
On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 12:08 PM, JimD wrote:
> I've been commuting on my Saluki through a series of rain storms here in
> Northern Calif.
> I like tires with tan sidewalls to my eye they look greatt but in persistent
> rainy conditions they turn mucky gray.
> I'd sure like to know how people clea
I've been commuting on my Saluki through a series of rain storms here
in Northern Calif.
I like tires with tan sidewalls to my eye they look greatt but in
persistent rainy conditions they turn mucky gray.
I'd sure like to know how people clean this stuff off once the sky
clears.
Maybe t
Hi!
In short, I prefer the largest frame I can straddle comfortably, as
long as the top tube length isn't crazy, relatively speaking. The top
top tube on the 60cm is "right there" when I straddle it. It feels
perfect. Which means there's a little extra room for psychological
comfort. I could proba
Sweet, though how one could pay extra NOT to get the orange, I don't
understand. :) Love the bar tape.
To get more accurate color, set the white balance on your camera not
to "Auto" but to the appropriate setting for the light. In this case,
to shade (the little house and shadow symbol). The only
In my flickr pictures, list member "Campy Only" made a comment that
rather than "dust" beneath the paint it may be "rust". I meant to
reply to that but inadvertently deleted the comment (sorry Campy).
I know he's had a few old bikes restored/repainted and knows a bit
more about this than I do. I wa
I noticed that Wallingford has the newly colorized B-17s (there might
also be a blurb about them on their blog):
http://www.wallbike.com/brooks/unsprung-saddles/b17-standard
Best,
Lee
San Francisco, CA
On Dec 23, 6:55 am, Montclair BobbyB
wrote:
> My favorite saddle is the honey B17... I love
My favorite saddle is the honey B17... I love how it gradually turns
to a rich brownish color. I also love the antique brown, but they
seem much harder to find in a standard B17 (which is a real bummer).
I'm also intrigued by the Colored Limited Edition saddles (Swift, Pro,
Swallow), especially th
Thomas:
Stem extenders have worked very well for me, especially on the older,
26 inch mountain bikes that I've converted to all-around duty... Even
the larger frames seem too small if you're over 6 feet tall, and often
require a few more inches of handlebar height. It's an inexpensive
solution,
I've found it my back does not like to hold my body in a good position, I
can ease that stress by moving the saddle, and hence my center of gravity,
back. There is such a thing as too much setback, though!
On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 1:35 AM, Earl Grey wrote:
>
>
> > On today's ride on my bike (Sam
I'm nowhere near the yogi that we should probably be, but I have found the
straight back/perineal pressure trade off in a Brooks, and I prefer pedaling
with a straight back. The Imperial feature helps a lot, and for me a Selle
Anatomica, properly adjusted (a significant journey!) is even better.
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