Well said. Regardless of one's motivation and intentions, these are pricey bikes to get to the final build-up. Not trying to appear as some elitist, but it is what what is. Grant uses these things because he's experimenting with stuff. I've never received any bike from them built-up with plastic. Geez why does everything have to become some class-warfare thing? It's a comment on workmanship not status.
On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 4:56 PM, JimD <rasterd...@comcast.net> wrote: > > Seriously, if you get your mind right (and it took some time for me to do > so), zip ties aren't a 'hack'. > They're an ingenious solution to many faster/fastening problems. > > Of course some have made the same claims for duct tape and even bailing > wire. > -JimD > > On Dec 23, 2010, at 12:44 PM, Beth H wrote: > > On Dec 23, 2:16 pm, robert zeidler <zeidler.rob...@gmail.com> wrote: > > With no disrespect to anyone, especially during this joyous time, plastic > > ties on a +/- $4000.00 bike is just atrocious. Learn the use of a few > basic > > tools and use the correct fasteners. For a "get-you-home" or temp repair, > > OK, but in the words of my first shop-teacher, it's "hack". > > > I suggest that while Rivendell definitely markets to the rider with "a > job and bicycle prorities", the underlying aesthetic of Rivendell > bikes is absolutely a loving and benign sense of "hack". For evidence, > I submit the old tan Atlantis flyer of several years ago, which showed > a number of Atlantii (??) in various types of build-up, with all > manner of baskets, zip-ties and other funkinesses on them. I'd also > look up Grant's multiple articles/photo essays on "Beausage" (a word I > still stumble over when I actually try to use it in a sentence because > it feels made-up), all of which practically glorify the bike that is > well-ridden, a bit dirty, maybe even a little dented and has paint > worn off the edges of the fork crown and all the stays. > > While some folks may ride a $4,000.00 bike because it's spendy or > fancy, some folks may choose to ride a $4,000.00 Rivendell simply > because it's well-made, and durable enough to see them out. And for > those of us who fall into that category, there are lovely zip-ties. > > I hope the inventor of the zip-tie didn't die broke. > > Beth > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
