[RBW] Re: Which bike that we know and love so well is missing from this lineup?

2009-05-11 Thread David Estes
Over countless years, I've learned the hard way not to buy bikes based on LA Times Health section reviews... Please, heed my words of warning in this matter. On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 10:04 PM, James Warren wrote: > > Not to mention the obvious (insert 4 possibilities from Walnut Creek), > how ab

[RBW] Re: Which bike that we know and love so well is missing from this lineup?

2009-05-11 Thread James Warren
Not to mention the obvious (insert 4 possibilities from Walnut Creek), how about Long Haul Trucker and that one from Kona and also the Co-Motion Pangea? Pretty lame review. They say, "all-in-one" bikes, but then complain that the bikes don't have the goods to handle real mountain-biking. Wh

[RBW] Re: Which bike that we know and love so well is missing from this lineup?

2009-05-11 Thread David Estes
Thanks for the help... that's the one! On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 9:05 PM, aaronweis wrote: > > Links not working for me, but I am guessing this is what you were > going for: > http://tinyurl.com/qs4ke4 > > Aaron > > On May 11, 8:45 pm, David Estes wrote: > > http://www.latimes.com/features/health

[RBW] Re: Which bike that we know and love so well is missing from this lineup?

2009-05-11 Thread aaronweis
Links not working for me, but I am guessing this is what you were going for: http://tinyurl.com/qs4ke4 Aaron On May 11, 8:45 pm, David Estes wrote: > http://www.latimes.com/features/health/la-he-gear11-2009may11,0,38309... > xo-1.org (roughriders) > > -- > Cheers, > David > Redlands, CA --~--~-

[RBW] Which bike that we know and love so well is missing from this lineup?

2009-05-11 Thread David Estes
http://www.latimes.com/features/health/la-he-gear11-2009may11,0,3830979.storyvia xo-1.org (roughriders) -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To pos

[RBW] Re: May 16 Rivendell Ride

2009-05-11 Thread David Estes
Actually, only about 10 miles from S.B. Metrolink, so probably about 45 min that early in the morning... totally doable if you're interested in that option. put in San Bernardino Metrolink as the directions option and click "walk" as mode of transportation. On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 8:31 PM, David

[RBW] Re: May 16 Rivendell Ride

2009-05-11 Thread David Estes
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&client=firefox-a&ie=UTF8&cid=0,0,8755799838295027229&fb=1&split=1&gl=us&dq=fox+coffee+92373&daddr=101+Cajon+St,+Redlands,+CA+92373&geocode=6058542410209375479,34.054302,-117.181517&ei=nWICSo_JBJiQswPTl7TwAQ&t=h&z=16 or *http://tinyurl.com/pf98gn* meeting @ 9:00,

[RBW] Re: 58mm Honjos and Hetres on a 60cm Saluki

2009-05-11 Thread rcnute
I was thinking of VO Zeppelins (I thought they were the only fenders called "Zeppelins") going on my canti-Saluki. On May 11, 6:15 pm, Rene Valbuena wrote: > Ryan, > > What bike are you thinking of installing on the combo of Hetres and the 58mm > honjos? There is no doubt that the combo is very

[RBW] Re: 58mm Honjos and Hetres on a 60cm Saluki

2009-05-11 Thread Rene Valbuena
-Original Message- >From: Steve Palincsar >Sent: May 11, 2009 6:47 PM >To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com >Subject: [RBW] Re: 58mm Honjos and Hetres on a 60cm Saluki > > >On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 21:15 -0400, Rene Valbuena wrote: >> Ryan, >> >> What bike are you thinking of installing

[RBW] Re: 58mm Honjos and Hetres on a 60cm Saluki

2009-05-11 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 21:15 -0400, Rene Valbuena wrote: > Ryan, > > What bike are you thinking of installing on the combo of Hetres and the 58mm > honjos? > There is no doubt that the combo is very good, if not ideal combo, but if I > may say so, > it is not an ideal fit, for a Saluki. The ma

[RBW] Re: 58mm Honjos and Hetres on a 60cm Saluki

2009-05-11 Thread Rene Valbuena
Ryan, What bike are you thinking of installing on the combo of Hetres and the 58mm honjos? There is no doubt that the combo is very good, if not ideal combo, but if I may say so, it is not an ideal fit, for a Saluki. The maximum recommended tire per RBW charts/tables for the Saluki, Hilsen, Bl

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-11 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 6:06 PM, MichaelH wrote: > > Even though I've done a bunch of 200K rides, mostly with lots of > mountains, and usually around 7 hours; when I'm done I can't grasp why > someone would want to ride one wheel length further. For the record, > my last 200 K was two years ago

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-11 Thread MichaelH
Even though I've done a bunch of 200K rides, mostly with lots of mountains, and usually around 7 hours; when I'm done I can't grasp why someone would want to ride one wheel length further. For the record, my last 200 K was two years ago at the age of 63. Now I'm trying to come back from foot su

[RBW] Re: 58mm Honjos and Hetres on a 60cm Saluki

2009-05-11 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 16:15 -0700, rcnute wrote: > Sorry for the lack of clarity. I was thinking of Zeppelins (instead > of the Honjos you used) to see if I can eliminate or minimize the > fender surgery. Good to know about the mounting tabs, though. 58mm is 58mm, no matter how you hang the fen

[RBW] Re: 58mm Honjos and Hetres on a 60cm Saluki

2009-05-11 Thread rcnute
Sorry for the lack of clarity. I was thinking of Zeppelins (instead of the Honjos you used) to see if I can eliminate or minimize the fender surgery. Good to know about the mounting tabs, though. Ryan On May 11, 3:24 pm, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 15:15 -0700, rcnute wrote

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-11 Thread Lesli
I was on the Riv custom at the back of the pack. No hallucinations if you ride at a nice, humane (14 mph) pace. Always tough to see Mike's photos of open businesses (like the taco place in Independence) which were closed by the time of my (much later) arrival. Only three women on the ride (incl

[RBW] Re: 58mm Honjos and Hetres on a 60cm Saluki

2009-05-11 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 15:15 -0700, rcnute wrote: > Thanks for being the early adopter/reporter, Steve. I think I'm going > to give the Zeppelins and Hetres a whirl. Those are the fluted 58mm Honjos. Velo Orange has Zeppelins in the wide size, but I understand they come with mounting tabs for br

[RBW] Re: 58mm Honjos and Hetres on a 60cm Saluki

2009-05-11 Thread rcnute
Thanks for being the early adopter/reporter, Steve. I think I'm going to give the Zeppelins and Hetres a whirl. (Over the weekend I further explored the joy of trails. The trail ended. My choice was to hike back or follow a stream and see where it went. Fortunately it took me back to civiliza

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-11 Thread Gino Zahnd
There's a key word to focus on in that article: racing. In elite/pro level racing, weight definitely makes a difference. For light weight, carbon and Ti simply win over steel. :-) -Gino "only owns steel bikes, even the racy ones" Zahnd On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Patrick in VT wrote:

[RBW] Re: 58mm Honjos and Hetres on a 60cm Saluki

2009-05-11 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 13:49 -0700, Damian wrote: > Lovely, how do you like the Hetres? How tough are they? They are marvelous. They're very fast, they're very cushy, they have a lot of grip and they give me a marvelous sense of confidence on gravel roads. I can't say enough good things about th

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-11 Thread Patrick in VT
On May 11, 2:07 pm, "Ralph Rognstad Jr." wrote: > figure out what is right for you. I have picked up good tips on the > UltraMarathon Cycling Association site: > > http://www.ultracycling.com/training/training.html yes, there are some good tips there - but, this site highlights the different a

[RBW] Re: 58mm Honjos and Hetres on a 60cm Saluki

2009-05-11 Thread Damian
Lovely, how do you like the Hetres? How tough are they? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe f

[RBW] Re: FS: My Raleigh DL1: $333.00

2009-05-11 Thread William Henderson
Sweet On May 11, 1:40 pm, John at Rivendell wrote: > Probably Bay Area local sale only, since it would be a bear to pack. > > http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/1165684514.html > > Cheers, > > John --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are s

[RBW] FS: My Raleigh DL1: $333.00

2009-05-11 Thread John at Rivendell
Probably Bay Area local sale only, since it would be a bear to pack. http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/1165684514.html Cheers, John --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To pos

[RBW] Re: May 16 Rivendell Ride

2009-05-11 Thread Esteban
Aaron - glad to hear you're going to try to make it! I should have my Romulus...unless I get the drops on my Protovelo or get inspired to take the Rawland out for an opportunity to ride it. See you guys there. On May 11, 11:06 am, Aaron Thomas wrote: > David, can you post directions for how to

[RBW] 58mm Honjos and Hetres on a 60cm Saluki

2009-05-11 Thread Steve Palincsar
I've taken some photos of my Saluki with its new 58mm fluted Honjo fenders and red Hetre tires, and organized them into a set. http://www.flickr.com/photos/97916...@n00/sets/72157617915097787/ For comparison's sake, photos of the bike as it was originally set up back in 2005 with 50mm Berthouds

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen (w/time correction!)

2009-05-11 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Mike wrote: > > Sorry, i just realized I totally put in the wrong finishing time. I > think my brain was shot. I did the ride in 18hrs 44 mins. A strong > ride if I say so myself but nowhere near 12hrs. I clearly don't want > to misrepresent myself. I think the fa

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-11 Thread Chicken Sandwich
Practice, desire and persistence. The biggest key is learning how to fuel yourself for consistent performace over long periods of time. At least it was for me. Chocolate milk forever!!! On 5/11/09, John Rikkers wrote: > Do you need to be genetically gifted to perform at that level, or are thes

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-11 Thread Lynne Fitz
I'd recommend those of you interested in our weird little corner of the cycling universe head on over to the Google randon group, and www.rusa.org. Or read a few blogs. Mike's is a good one. Mine is adequate. My friend Cecil's is also a good one. The Seattle International Randonneurs website

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-11 Thread Ralph Rognstad Jr.
I think training is slightly different for each rider, so you need to figure out what is right for you. I have picked up good tips on the UltraMarathon Cycling Association site: http://www.ultracycling.com/training/training.html PATRICK MOORE wrote: > Well, I am suitably impressed. I doubt I'l

[RBW] Re: May 16 Rivendell Ride

2009-05-11 Thread Aaron Thomas
David, can you post directions for how to get there? The LA metro doesn't happen to go anywhere near there, does it? May 10, 11:21 pm, David Estes wrote: > Yes you do! > > > > On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 11:18 PM, Harry wrote: > > > I am going have to figure out a way to get down there for one of

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-11 Thread John Rikkers
Do you need to be genetically gifted to perform at that level, or are these feats the result of practice, desire and persistence? On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 10:48 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery < thill@gmail.com> wrote: > > When I signed in for a 200k last weekend, I noted that the 40 people >

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-11 Thread RoadieRyan
20 MPH for 12 hours... WOW Dude! Chapeau, very impressive no wonder you were hallucinating for the last 25. Thanks for the Photoset. In reply to the sub thread I will be 45 in July. At 40 I did a double centruy in one day (STP) I usually do a century or every other year. This year I will try

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen (w/time correction!)

2009-05-11 Thread Mike
My brain remains shot. I should add that the finishing times will be posted on the OR Randonneurs website within a day or so. Here's a link to their site if anyone is interested: http://www.orrandonneurs.org/ Again, sorry for the confusion about the finishing time. I will say that we knocked the

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen (w/time correction!)

2009-05-11 Thread Mike
Sorry, i just realized I totally put in the wrong finishing time. I think my brain was shot. I did the ride in 18hrs 44 mins. A strong ride if I say so myself but nowhere near 12hrs. I clearly don't want to misrepresent myself. I think the fastest time was like 13hrs 45 minutes but I could be wron

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-11 Thread Patrick in VT
On May 10, 8:42 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > Patrick "but riding fixed gives you an advantage of a factor of >10" Moore I actually enjoy doing long distance fixed gear riding. it's like having a built in pacing mechanism. and, unless the terrain is really hilly, my finishing times aren't substan

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-11 Thread Larry Powers
To pit it further in perspcective the fastests riders on a 1200k (750mi) will finnish in just under 50 hrs. Again this is elpased time and includes time off the bike to get cards signed, eat, bathroom and sleep. I am happy just to finish under the 90hrs allowed. Larry Powers "just when

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-11 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Well, I am suitably impressed. I doubt I'll ever be interested in riding 250 miles, tho' one of these days I'd like to do my first century; but I am certainly impressed at y'all's stamina. I'm an agressive rider, but I don't ride more than 35 miles at a time (tho' all my riding is fixed or ss off

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-11 Thread Tim McNamara
On May 10, 2009, at 11:32 PM, benzzoy wrote: > On May 10, 6:54 pm, Mike wrote: >> [...] My >> time for the event was 12hrs 44mins which qualified me for R70 honors >> with 10 minutes to spare which was my goal. One guy, on a recumbent, >> finished in just under 14hrs! > > You did 400 km (250 mil

[RBW] Re: Hetres on a 60cm Saluki

2009-05-11 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 13:59 -0700, Aaron Thomas wrote: > Do you have any photos, especially of the treatment at the chainstay > (which you described on the 650b list)? Here are a couple of photographs: http://www.flickr.com/photos/97916...@n00/3522098460/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/97916...@n0

[RBW] Re: RBW group for Minnesota

2009-05-11 Thread Rick
Gracias, that is most helpful. Not sure what the schedule holds as yet, but I'm looking forward to tooling around up there, in the great bike-mecca of the north that is Mill City. I'll be having to rent. On May 11, 12:52 am, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: > Hennepin County is mostly urban