On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 21:15 -0400, Rene Valbuena wrote:
> Ryan,
> 
> What bike are you thinking of installing on the combo of Hetres and the 58mm 
> honjos?
>  There is no doubt that the combo is very good, if not ideal combo, but if I 
> may say so,
>  it is not an ideal fit, for a Saluki. The maximum recommended tire per RBW 
> charts/tables
>  for the Saluki, Hilsen, Bleriot and Wilbuy/Glorius -- the now discountinued 
> RBW 650 bikes
>  -- is 35mm with fenders and 41 without. You can 'force-fit' the ideal combo 
> but you have
>  to live with the fender surgery. Now if you want to experience the Hetres 
> and 58mm Honjos
>  with an 'ideal fit' with an RBW bike, there is the Hillborne, Bombadill, and 
> the 700c Atlantis.


The only place where any fender surgery was required was right at the
chain stays.  As you can see from the photos, it's not that much.
Perhaps a more skilled artisan than I could have come up with a more
elegant solution, but this was less than 10 minutes' work and it fits
fine.

I respectfully submit, Riv's charts are wrong.  After all, when they
were conceived, the Hetre did not exist.  And how might you experience a
Hetre with a 700C Atlantis?  What 700C tire is there that is like the
Hetre?  I can think of none.  In fact, the closest I know of is the 37mm
Pasela, and from what I can see, nobody's had that in stock for at least
a year.

In my opinion, Rivendell has significantly retreated from its earlier
support of the 650B size, and now appears to regard it as merely an
option for smaller frames to fit a 32mm tire.  Now I like 32mm tires, I
ride them on my Velo Orange Randonneur, but believe me, 32mm is NOT a
wide low pressure tire for really rough roads.  

I think Grant got spooked by a bunch of loudmouthed cynics on
rec.bicycles.tech.  I'm really sorry it happened.  But in my opinion
they're a bunch of idiots, he was right then, and he is wrong now.  I
wish he'd buy himself a set of Hetres and try them.





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