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>From: Steve Palincsar <palin...@his.com>
>Sent: May 11, 2009 6:47 PM
>To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
>Subject: [RBW] Re: 58mm Honjos and Hetres on a 60cm Saluki
>
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>On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 21:15 -0400, Rene Valbuena wrote:
>> Ryan,
>>
>> What bike are you thinking of installing on the combo of Hetres and the 58mm
>> honjos?
>> There is no doubt that the combo is very good, if not ideal combo, but if I
>> may say so,
>> it is not an ideal fit, for a Saluki. The maximum recommended tire per RBW
>> charts/tables
>> for the Saluki, Hilsen, Bleriot and Wilbuy/Glorius -- the now discountinued
>> RBW 650 bikes
>> -- is 35mm with fenders and 41 without. You can 'force-fit' the ideal combo
>> but you have
>> to live with the fender surgery. Now if you want to experience the Hetres
>> and 58mm Honjos
>> with an 'ideal fit' with an RBW bike, there is the Hillborne, Bombadill,
>> and the 700c Atlantis.
>
>
>The only place where any fender surgery was required was right at the
>chain stays. As you can see from the photos, it's not that much.
>Perhaps a more skilled artisan than I could have come up with a more
>elegant solution, but this was less than 10 minutes' work and it fits
>fine.
In my humble opinion, there is no elegant solution in force-fitting a fender
which is not intended to fit a bike.
>
>I respectfully submit, Riv's charts are wrong. After all, when they
>were conceived, the Hetre did not exist. And how might you experience a
>Hetre with a 700C Atlantis? What 700C tire is there that is like the
>Hetre? I can think of none. In fact, the closest I know of is the 37mm
>Pasela, and from what I can see, nobody's had that in stock for at least
>a year.
Oops, I got carried away with the Atlantis;>)
>
>In my opinion, Rivendell has significantly retreated from its earlier
>support of the 650B size, and now appears to regard it as merely an
>option for smaller frames to fit a 32mm tire. Now I like 32mm tires, I
>ride them on my Velo Orange Randonneur, but believe me, 32mm is NOT a
>wide low pressure tire for really rough roads.
There are the new Hillbornes and Betty Foys in the RBW stable that are 650b
bikes. They are not really for rough roads, which they are not really intended
for. I think RBW is very clear that if you really want to ride rough roads,
there is the Bombadil which can fit really fat tires. But as have been said
about the Hetres's toughness not yet proven on rough roads, why would anyone
think of fitting a hetres on a 650b Bombadil?
>
>I think Grant got spooked by a bunch of loudmouthed cynics on
>rec.bicycles.tech. I'm really sorry it happened. But in my opinion
>they're a bunch of idiots, he was right then, and he is wrong now. I
>wish he'd buy himself a set of Hetres and try them.
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