Re: REMOVE ME FROM THIS LIST

2014-02-23 Thread Jim Graham
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 06:31:28PM -0800, ga...@garryricketsonartworks.org wrote: > > > At first I asked nicely, but this BS is getting on my nerves. REMOVE ME > FROM THIS LIST! Why are you reminding yourself and bitching at yourself for the fact that you haven't removed yourself from the list

Re: Download multiple attachments at once

2013-08-04 Thread Jim Graham
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 11:44:44AM -0500, David Champion wrote: > * On 30 Jul 2013, James Griffin wrote: > > > > David, out of curiosity, how do you get voicemail sent to your email > > server? > I have home VoIP service, and the provider (Megapath, formerly known > as Speakeasy) has this as a b

Re: can not get mail from mail list which are send by myself

2013-01-10 Thread Jim Graham
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 05:56:15PM +, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2013-01-10, Jim Graham wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 10:57:03AM -0500, Mark H. Wood wrote: > >> On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 01:59:22PM -0600, Jim Graham wrote: > >> [snip] > >> > Btw, p

Re: can not get mail from mail list which are send by myself

2013-01-10 Thread Jim Graham
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 10:57:03AM -0500, Mark H. Wood wrote: > On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 01:59:22PM -0600, Jim Graham wrote: > [snip] > > Btw, port 587 is one of those that I said are used for authentication, > > as opposed to port 25 which is UNauthenticated. > > See the S

Re: can not get mail from mail list which are send by myself

2013-01-09 Thread Jim Graham
On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 03:05:17PM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > * Jim Graham [01-09-13 15:02]: > > > But you are not limited to port 25 for outgoing mail. Assign a higher > > > port, >1024. > > > > You mean a port like, say, port 587, which I have had c

Re: can not get mail from mail list which are send by myself

2013-01-09 Thread Jim Graham
On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 12:42:42PM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > * Jim Graham [01-09-13 12:25]: > > On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 11:54:57AM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > * Alexander Gattin [01-09-13 11:23]: > > > > On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 09:50:59AM -0500,

Re: can not get mail from mail list which are send by myself

2013-01-09 Thread Jim Graham
On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 11:54:57AM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > * Alexander Gattin [01-09-13 11:23]: > > On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 09:50:59AM -0500, Patrick > > Shanahan wrote: > > that way 10 years ago. SMTP servers no longer accept users' mail at > > port 25, but tend to do this at ports 465

Re: can not get mail from mail list which are send by myself

2013-01-09 Thread Jim Graham
On Tue, Jan 08, 2013 at 05:33:02PM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > * Jim Graham [01-08-13 13:38]: > [...] > > Just be advised, this will result in SPF=NEUTRAL or SPF=FAIL (usually > > neutral, from what I've seen). Depending on the settings for the list > > you&#

Re: can not get mail from mail list which are send by myself

2013-01-08 Thread Jim Graham
On Tue, Jan 08, 2013 at 08:04:05AM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > * horseriver [01-08-13 06:16]: > >I can not receive mails which are sent by myself to a mail list . > If you want to see the list mail you post, use a different smtp agent, > ie: your own isp, and use your gmail "From:" addr

Re: Difficulty with html-mail

2012-12-19 Thread Jim Graham
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 04:12:55PM -0500, Alan McConnell wrote: > > I call up mutt from one of my terms(URxvt) and it displays my > E-mail from /var/spool/mail/alan, as is normal. With many > of my mails I press 'v' to get a display like > > I 1 [multipa/alternativ, 7b

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-12-10 Thread Jim Graham
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 02:33:56PM +0200, Nikola Petrov wrote: > What about clients that you are doing support for? That's so easy to handle, I'm surprised to see it asked (at least, if you're using procmail). You create two (or more) rc files for procmail. For example, I have a setup that look

Re: HTML-only e-mail (WAS [the near-endless line-length thread])

2012-12-10 Thread Jim Graham
Changing the subject so this (hopefully) doesn't restart the endless thread. On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 06:27:42AM -0500, Rich Kulawiec wrote: > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 06:44:35PM -0600, Jim Graham wrote: > > If you keep track, you'll probably find, as I have, that HTML

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-12-01 Thread Jim Graham
On Sat, Dec 01, 2012 at 08:13:28AM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > Pls excuse failing memory, you are correct. The problem with my posts to > yahoo lists is I post with a gmail addr but SMTP via my isp, not gmail. I can tell you what's happening, then. I had this problem for a while with one

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-11-30 Thread Jim Graham
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 11:15:42PM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > Yahoo now requires posting from a yahoo account via their smtp or from > their web service, since last year some time. I have dropped all but one > group, but only read. I refuse to use their web service. Strange...because one

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-11-30 Thread jim graham
On Sat, Dec 01, 2012 at 02:12:03AM +, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2012-11-30, Jim Graham wrote: > > announcement type list for the freeware hurricane tracker (JStrack) [] > > It's a google groups list. > If needed I can change the killfile rule so that it doesn&#x

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-11-30 Thread Jim Graham
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 06:20:00PM +, Grant Edwards wrote: > I killfiled all postings from google groups years ago... Well, I suppose you'll never be on my list, then (it's a support and announcement type list for the freeware hurricane tracker (JStrack) that I wrote back in ca. 1996, and con

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-11-30 Thread Jim Graham
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 09:57:50AM -0500, Mark H. Wood wrote: > I don't think it was about sending mail through a .gmail address; it > was about using the GMail web thingy to compose the mail being sent, People actually USE that POS!? The e-mail lists (now only one left) that I've created all ha

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-11-29 Thread Jim Graham
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 11:27:13AM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > * Jim Graham [11-29-12 11:16]: > Perhaps the same as for a hotmail/yahoo/ms/aol/... address. Years past Well yeah, I remember those...never used them because I knew they were useless from day one (except yahoo, before I

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-11-29 Thread Jim Graham
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 10:45:01AM -0500, Peter Davis wrote: > Bear in mind that this list, by it's very subject matter, self-selects > for members who tend towards old school tools and technologies. Mutt > users are obviously more likely to be strict about text-only, > 72-column wrapped messages t

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-11-29 Thread Jim Graham
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 08:42:16AM +, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote: > [ Erik Christiansen Wrote On Thu 29.Nov'12 at 5:26:49 GMT ] > > It can be worse than just evidencing irritation at inconsiderately > > formatted posts, fullquoting, top posting, lack of proper sentence > > structure, html, or o

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-11-24 Thread Jim Graham
On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 11:49:26AM -0600, Derek Martin wrote: > I repeat what I said in an earlier message in this thread. HTML is > best for handling this. But the matter is not that simple, and for > those of us who love Mutt, it's currently not (pratically speaking) an > option at all, for ou

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-11-24 Thread Jim Graham
On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 09:58:03AM -0600, Derek Martin wrote: > Stop right there... reread what he said. We're not talking about > variable width *fonts* -- we're talking about variable width > *formats*, like flowed formatting. Yes, I read that in a previous post. That will happen sometimes.

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-11-24 Thread Jim Graham
On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 11:01:16AM -0500, Peter Davis wrote: > Excuse me if I've misinterpreted your question again You have. Oh well. Later, --jim -- THE SCORE: ME: 2 CANCER: 0 73 DE N5IAL (/4)MiSTie #49997 < Running Mac OS X Lion > spooky1...@gmail.com

Re: readability of variable width fonts (was Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value)

2012-11-24 Thread Jim Graham
On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 09:16:22AM +, Tony's unattended mail wrote: > On 2012-11-23, Jim Graham wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 09:47:46PM +, Tony's unattended mail wrote: > > > >> BTW, sending a variable width format allows for 72 character > &g

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-11-24 Thread Jim Graham
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 09:27:49PM -0500, Peter Davis wrote: > > I don't think there's any question in typography circles or in usability > circles that proportional fonts are more readable than fixed width > fonts. On this, I agree 100%. But when did we switch from e-mail to typography? I use

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-11-23 Thread Jim Graham
On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 01:45:42AM +0100, Andre Kl?rner wrote: > On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 05:04:38PM -0600, Jim Graham wrote: > > Two questions about variable width fonts, then > > > > First, how does Mutt do with variable width fonts? I gather that it does > >

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-11-23 Thread Jim Graham
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 09:47:46PM +, Tony's unattended mail wrote: > BTW, sending a variable width format allows for 72 character > rendering, so these dated ergonomics studies are not at odds with an > unwrapped source text anyway. Two questions about variable width fonts, then First,

Re: email has changed, you won't change everyone, and you don't have to

2012-11-23 Thread Jim Graham
On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 03:43:21AM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 01:21:18PM -0600, Jim Graham wrote: > > Interesting, considering that Unix doesn't use CR/LF ... it uses a single > > newline instead. So I suppose that means that the entire e-mail

Re: Putting table in email?

2012-11-21 Thread Jim Graham
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 07:03:07AM +, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote: > I, like David do prefer vi over vim not that it's especially relevent, > so this is great. Being set-up immediately here :-) thanks guys I'm going to post this one (two-part) comment on preferred editors.. The "right/bes

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-11-21 Thread Jim Graham
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 05:02:50PM +, Tony's unattended mail wrote: > LF means "begin next line now". So as an author posting text to a > forum, at what point do you need an LF? Not after XX width, because > that makes poor assumptions about the readers medium (is it an LCD, or > a phone?).

Re: email has changed, you won't change everyone, and you don't have to

2012-11-21 Thread Jim Graham
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 12:09:17AM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > > Because there are no CR/LF in a paragraph then it is treated all as one > line. Interesting, considering that Unix doesn't use CR/LF ... it uses a single newline instead. So I suppose that means that the entire e-mail, from th

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-11-20 Thread Jim Graham
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 02:57:00PM -0800, Jeremy Kitchen wrote: > I really can't believe I'm about to say this, but: > > HTML solves this problem entirely. > > There, I said it. If you keep track, you'll probably find, as I have, that HTML-only e-mail is between 99% to 100% spam. I send those

Re: email has changed, you won't change everyone, and you don't have to

2012-11-20 Thread Jim Graham
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 05:51:40PM -0600, Derek Martin wrote: > Top posting almost invariably requires me to re-read WAY more of the > previous thread than I would have had to if the user posted in line > and trimmed quoted text appropriately. And on top of that, you have > to read, in chunks, BA

Re: Putting table in email?

2012-11-20 Thread Jim Graham
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 09:02:11PM +, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote: > > +--+--+-+--+ > > |Year | Hurricane | Deaths | Location | > > |1780 | Great Hurricane of 1780| 27,500+ | An

Re: select wrapped lines / click long url / bug 3453

2012-10-26 Thread Jim Graham
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 06:09:03AM +0300, Alex Efros wrote: > Mutt variable: set markers > It enabled, will show "+" sign at beginning of each wrapped line (using > different color, to make clear that "+" is mutt's special thing, not part > of email text). THANKS! That little '+' has been annoyi

Re: Android MUA does not display mail correctly because of Content-Disposition in header

2012-09-27 Thread Jim Graham
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 12:07:51PM -0500, Luis Mochan wrote: > On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 11:06:00PM +0200, Ambrevar wrote: > I don't recall any problem reading with Android 2.1 mail sent by > mutt. I use K-9 as my Android mail client in my phone. > Best regards, > > My fellows recently let me aware

Re: Old e-mail markup language RFC ?

2012-09-19 Thread Jim Graham
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 08:12:25AM -0500, Jim Graham wrote: > Ok, I just did that. Now let's see if this is bold or if this is > underlined. > > One thing I don't remember is how to specify colors I also forgot that the usual line breaks go awayand how to mak

Re: Old e-mail markup language RFC ?

2012-09-19 Thread Jim Graham
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 11:02:49PM +1000, m...@raf.org wrote: > Jim Graham wrote: > > > On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 03:54:48PM +1000, m...@raf.org wrote: > > > check the email headers. i tried the above and the resulting email > still had the usual "Content-Type: te

Re: Old e-mail markup language RFC ?

2012-09-19 Thread Jim Graham
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 03:54:48PM +1000, m...@raf.org wrote: > at least my Mutt 1.5.21 (2010-09-15) on my ubuntu-11.04 system at home > can render it but my Mutt 1.5.20 (2009-06-14) on a debian-6.0 system > doesn't render it at all. that's odd. they have the same compile options > but different p

Re: Old e-mail markup language RFC ?

2012-09-18 Thread Jim Graham
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 02:32:59PM +1000, m...@raf.org wrote: > m...@raf.org wrote: > > > Jim Graham wrote: > > > > > I'm not sure of the exact year, but somewhere around 1996--1997, I was > > > using an e-mail markup language that was similar in some r

Old e-mail markup language RFC ?

2012-09-18 Thread Jim Graham
I'm not sure of the exact year, but somewhere around 1996--1997, I was using an e-mail markup language that was similar in some respects to html, but it wasn't html. It was limited to simple text markup such as bold, simple colors, *maybe* italic and underline (don't remember), and if I remeember

Re: Killfiling, anyone?

2012-07-25 Thread Jim Graham
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 08:48:08AM +, John Long wrote: > Guys, what are you using for killfiling/mail filtering? procmail. There's no substitute, IMHO. Later, --jim -- THE SCORE: ME: 2 CANCER: 0 73 DE N5IAL (/4) | Peter da Silva: No, try "rm -rf /" spooky1...@gmail.com

Re: Thank you for Mutt

2012-07-25 Thread Jim Graham
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 11:11:03AM +1000, Cameron Simpson wrote: > On 24Jul2012 15:20, Aaron Toponce wrote: > | - No ability to change signatures when changing accounts automatically. > > Well, mutt doesn't have "accounts". It has individual settings for a > bunch of things, which would norm

Re: Thank you for Mutt

2012-07-25 Thread Jim Graham
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 01:00:28AM +0200, Andre Kl?rner wrote: > Well, what do you mean with that? I also noticed that sometimes the > fullscreen running mutt looks a bit unusual when you use 80 of your 250 > columns. But how would you think could one make it better? I'm not sure what you're desc

Re: Thank you for Mutt

2012-07-25 Thread Jim Graham
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 04:17:59AM -0500, Jim Graham wrote: > As will I. :-) Forgot one thing: I've been using Mutt since right around the time it went from alpha to beta status, ca 1995, I think, and have never had even the slightest regret. It has, simply, always been the best for

Re: Thank you for Mutt

2012-07-25 Thread Jim Graham
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 06:29:33PM +0100, Joe McCool wrote: > On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 6:19 PM, wrote: > > > > > Thanks to all the Mutt developers, contributors, and user > > > community. Mutt is a great app! It doesn't suck at all. > > > > > Joining in! Really, Mutt is absolutely the best email c

Re: Anyone using Mutt on a Mac?

2012-05-13 Thread Jim Graham
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 10:13:38AM +1000, Cameron Simpson wrote: > eg you've been offline for a week and need to suck down thousands of > messages). My FreeBSD system only gets shut down when the power goes out AND doesn't come back up before I get to the console and type "shutdown -h now". Late

Re: Anyone using Mutt on a Mac?

2012-05-13 Thread Jim Graham
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 09:53:57AM +1000, Cameron Simpson wrote: > On 13May2012 16:18, David J. Weller-Fahy > wrote: > We should point out to Jim that these are all independent. He can > install the lot, and pick and choose. Personally I recommend he does. > One size never fits all:-) It never

Re: Anyone using Mutt on a Mac?

2012-05-13 Thread Jim Graham
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 09:48:49AM +1000, Cameron Simpson wrote: > On 13May2012 03:32, Indulekha wrote: > | On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 09:04:00PM -0500, Jim Graham wrote: > > | > Ok... Why does mutt-users not show up as a list with your posts, > | > and works for all others?

Re: Anyone using Mutt on a Mac?

2012-05-13 Thread Jim Graham
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 09:03:00AM +1000, Cameron Simpson wrote: > On 13May2012 06:21, Jim Graham wrote: > | On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 04:53:32PM +1000, Cameron Simpson wrote: > | OB Mutt: I use fcc-hook frequently to store related groups of e-mail. NOTE: That should have been fcc-hook

Re: Anyone using Mutt on a Mac?

2012-05-13 Thread Jim Graham
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 04:18:53PM -0400, David J. Weller-Fahy wrote: > * Cameron Simpson [2012-05-12 20:26 -0400]: Wow...I never thought my little question would generate all of this! Lots of great (even if off-topic for the list) info. Thanks. > > I use the mutt from MacPorts (WELL worth inst

Re: Anyone using Mutt on a Mac?

2012-05-13 Thread Jim Graham
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 01:15:23PM +0100, Koralatov wrote: > On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 12:37, Jim Graham wrote: > Especially after I tracked down a copy of the O'Reilly on sendmail :-( That's the one I had (at an old job...it was the company's copy, not mine) ... and re

Re: Anyone using Mutt on a Mac?

2012-05-13 Thread Jim Graham
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 03:26:15PM +0400, Alexander Gattin wrote: > Hello, > > I use msmtp vs several email accounts (1 personal and 2 corporate). I had zero luck getting msmtp to work, but found it very easy to configure Mutt to handle it (once I got the right options to pass to configure before

Re: Anyone using Mutt on a Mac?

2012-05-13 Thread Jim Graham
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 04:53:32PM +1000, Cameron Simpson wrote: > Try 'g'; it keeps both me and the mutt-users. Works nicely. On some lists I'm on, people get royally PO'd about it. :-) I just find it annoying. If I mention it (this case excepted, as it's keeping me from using 'L'ist reply) I

Re: Anyone using Mutt on a Mac?

2012-05-12 Thread Jim Graham
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 12:40:27PM +1000, Cameron Simpson wrote: > and I miss my infinite desktops setup I use under FVWM). I do turn off > the "when switching to an app, switch to a desktop with its window" > setting in the spaces prefs. Ok, here's a question for you: can I use ctwm for my wind

Re: Anyone using Mutt on a Mac?

2012-05-12 Thread Jim Graham
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 10:01:03PM -0400, Ravi Pina wrote: > That and I haven't figured out how to save custom words to a aspell > dictionary. I also haven't spent much time on it either after it > wasn't immediately obvious how to do it. I'd offer to help, but I use ispell (when I remember to..

Re: Anyone using Mutt on a Mac?

2012-05-12 Thread Jim Graham
Ok... Why does mutt-users not show up as a list with your posts, and works for all others? I've never seen this happen before with Mutt and lists. On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 11:39:00AM +1000, Cameron Simpson wrote: > On 12May2012 19:39, Jim Graham wrote: > Simple enough, but you coul

Re: Anyone using Mutt on a Mac?

2012-05-12 Thread Jim Graham
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 11:43:29AM +1000, Cameron Simpson wrote: > On 12May2012 19:42, Indulekha wrote: > Make sure you get iTerm2; iTerm is the older codebase and iTerm2 is a > LOT better. I will. But I'll also compare it to xterm, and choose one. :-) Thanks, --jim -- THE SCORE: ME: 2

Re: Anyone using Mutt on a Mac?

2012-05-12 Thread Jim Graham
Just a quick comment on a .sig On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 10:23:53AM +1000, Cameron Simpson wrote: > Mac OS X. Because making Unix user-friendly is easier than debugging > Windows. 1) Unix is user-friendly. It's just finicky about who its friends are. 2) Unix is by far the most user-friendly OS I'

Re: Anyone using Mutt on a Mac?

2012-05-12 Thread Jim Graham
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 07:34:29PM -0500, Jim Graham wrote: > I'm also going to have to (hopefully) remember > the set of options I set to use Gmail to SEND mail, and fetchmail to > get mail, and procmail as my MDA/mail filter. > > sendmail---it's been a LONG time since c

Re: Anyone using Mutt on a Mac?

2012-05-12 Thread Jim Graham
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 10:23:53AM +1000, Cameron Simpson wrote: > > I use the mutt from MacPorts (WELL worth installing - very easy and > gives you access to a HUGE suite of common UNIX tools). If you install > MacPorts it is important to use "mutt-devel" instead of "mutt" as the > package name;

Re: Anyone using Mutt on a Mac?

2012-05-12 Thread Jim Graham
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 12:22:49AM +0100, Koralatov wrote: > As for OS X's Unix base: I'm not at all experienced, or even > particularly knowledgeable, about Unix, but it appears pretty intact to > me. The biggest difference I've discovered from other *nixen is that it's > deprecated cron i

Re: Anyone using Mutt on a Mac?

2012-05-12 Thread Jim Graham
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 07:03:29PM -0500, Indulekha wrote: > On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 06:51:52PM -0500, Jim Graham wrote: > > I'm curious about how that's working out, etc. > > > > I used to, a few years ago. Good guide here: > ht

Anyone using Mutt on a Mac?

2012-05-12 Thread Jim Graham
I'm going to be replacing my old, rapidly dying systems with a Mac next month, and am wondering if anyone here has used Mutt on Mac OS X (Lion). I'm curious about how that's working out, etc. (I've never actually SEEN Mac OS X, so I don't know how much of the Unix base is still there). Thanks,

Re: List-Reply vs. Reply

2012-01-14 Thread Jim Graham
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 02:34:55PM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > "R" and "L" seem to function the same for lists where I am > subscribed. The only way w/o directly entering the addressee to "Reply" > to the individual is to use "G"roup and delete the cc: address. > > What has changed recent

Re: add Bcc for lists but not regular e-mail? (fwd)

2011-10-22 Thread Jim Graham
Interesting... List reply doesn't work if the list is CCd, and not in the From: field. I never noticed that before. On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 11:35:41AM -0500, David Champion wrote: > > I haven't tried this and it's only off the cuff, but perhaps a > send2-hook setting $sendmail would work: I d

Re: add Bcc for lists but not regular e-mail? (fwd)

2011-10-22 Thread Jim Graham
On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 02:30:13PM +0100, Michael Graham wrote: > Perhaps something like this may work for you: > > send-hook @mutt.org "y...@address.com" No Bcc. It didn't work.:-( Later, --jim -- THE SCORE: ME: 2 CANCER: 0 73 DE N5IAL (/4)| DMR: So fsck was originally ca

Re: add Bcc for lists but not regular e-mail? (fwd)

2011-10-22 Thread Jim Graham
I did it again...regular reply instead of a list reply My chemobrain (brain nuked by two types of chemotherapy, both very hard on the brain, plus tumors, plus three brain surgeries, plus max-dose radiation ... I do at least have an excuse!) On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 02:30:13PM +0100, Michael

Re: add Bcc for lists but not regular e-mail? (fwd)

2011-10-22 Thread Jim Graham
Oops...accidentally did a 'r'eplay, not 'L'ist reply - Forwarded message from Jim Graham - Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 08:14:25 -0500 From: Jim Graham To: Michael Graham Subject: Re: add Bcc for lists but not regular e-mail? On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 02:07:45PM +

Re: add Bcc for lists but not regular e-mail?

2011-10-22 Thread Jim Graham
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 09:14:20AM -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > * Jim Graham [10-21-11 09:02]: > > I'm on several e-mail lists, and none of them send me > > copies of my own e-mail (nor do they offer that option). > iianm, it is gmail that is not providing you with c

Re: any possibility of Mutt (or Mutt-like) for Android?

2011-10-21 Thread Jim Graham
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 06:11:31AM -0700, Ray Van Dolson wrote: > On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 06:05:56AM -0700, Jim Graham wrote: > Man, that sounds pretty painful. mutt is so keyboard dependent and > unless you had a physical keyboard on your Android device, the mutt > folks would have

any possibility of Mutt (or Mutt-like) for Android?

2011-10-21 Thread Jim Graham
As the subject line says...is there ay possibility of either a direct port of Mutt, or at least something similar, for the Android? I'm not sure if this qualifies as an absurd question or not (I'm thinking it probably is, but I've been surprised enough times now with Android apps that mimic or

add Bcc for lists but not regular e-mail?

2011-10-21 Thread Jim Graham
I'm on several e-mail lists, and none of them send me copies of my own e-mail (nor do they offer that option). The strange thing is, this only started to happen when I upgraded to 1.5.21 and set p proper authentication with gmail's SMTP server (I use fetchmail and procmail for incoming from the PO

configuring/compiling Mutt 1.5.21 with SASL

2011-07-04 Thread Jim Graham
I've been trying to get Mutt 1.5.21 working directly with Gmail (only for outgoing e-mail---I already have fetchmail working nicely via cron for incoming e-mail), and am down to what I believe is the last step: getting SASL into the build. There's just one problem Based on what I've read on t

[HOWTO] compiling Mutt for Windows NT

2000-04-07 Thread Jim Graham
Ok, ok I can already hear the heckling starting, and this e-mail hasn't even left my system yet :-) But for those of us who have to use a windoze box at work, this might be useful information, so it's time to de-lurk and post what I've gotten done so far. This is a preliminary look

Re: pre-compiled binaries for W95 or DOS ?

1999-07-07 Thread Jim Graham
On Wed, Jul 07, 1999 at 09:09:47AM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Does anyone know where I can get pre-compiled binaries for mutt > for Windows 95 or DOS ? It sure would suck less. Well, I tried to compile it one day (under Win 95), and I *DID* get it compiled (using the Cygwin toolkit)

Re: filters

1999-06-07 Thread Jim Graham
On Mon, Jun 07, 1999 at 08:03:38AM -0500, Jim Graham wrote: > Now, as to how you use filters, lots of others have provided links to > the procmail web page(s), etc., I just took a closer look at the responses I mentioned above, and I'm correcting one error myself: make that ftp sit

Re: filters

1999-06-07 Thread Jim Graham
On Sat, Jun 05, 1999 at 09:21:39PM -0500, phuzz phactor wrote: > would someone be kind enough to explain how I use filters with mutt? > i'm trying to sort my mail into different folders based on different You use filters (and from reading your previous post, I gather you mean procmail, and that

Re: Using mutt with news?

1999-05-27 Thread Jim Graham
On Thu, May 27, 1999 at 01:01:52AM -0700, Kim DeVaughn wrote: > On Wed, May 26, 1999, Brandon Long ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: > | > | some people like slrn, though I could never get past the single > | pager/index thing. Others like tin. Personally, if I'm not using > | mutt+nntp, I use nn. > >

Re: MS attachments

1999-05-03 Thread Jim Graham
On Sun, May 02, 1999 at 09:58:57PM +0200, Roland Rosenfeld wrote: > On Sun, 02 May 1999, David Resnick wrote: > > > I recieve mail from MS-Outlook clients with attachments that I > > cannot access. Mutt displays these attachments in the body of the > > email, like this: [non-standard uuencoded `

Re: how do I *NOT* include myself in group-reply?

1999-04-15 Thread Jim Graham
On Thu, Apr 15, 1999 at 02:14:55PM -0500, David DeSimone wrote: > Jim Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > When I do a group-reply from Mutt, it seems that roughly half of the > > time, I end up being CC'd in that reply. > Mutt removes your name fro

how do I *NOT* include myself in group-reply?

1999-04-15 Thread Jim Graham
When I do a group-reply from Mutt, it seems that roughly half of the time, I end up being CC'd in that reply. I'm already saving a copy of outbound e-mail, so this is (IMHO) a complete waste. Is there a way to turn that off that I missed while RTFMing...actually, I guess that should be RingTFM,

Re: Question about upgrading from mutt-0.79

1999-03-03 Thread Jim Graham
On Tue, Mar 02, 1999 at 09:03:27PM -0800, Daniel Eisenbud wrote: > On Tue, Mar 02, 1999 at 10:24:38PM +0100, Dirk Foersterling ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thursday 18.02.1999 Dirk Foersterling ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > I got used to mutt's behaviour of saving read messages from mai

Re: Forging headers

1999-02-03 Thread Jim Graham
On Wed, Feb 03, 1999 at 10:52:38AM -0500, Stan Ryckman wrote: > Jim Graham wrote: > >incoming via UUCP --> sendmail --> procmail --> disk > > > > At some point between the message being received via UUCP and procmail > > actually starting to work with

Re: Forging headers

1999-02-03 Thread Jim Graham
On Tue, Feb 02, 1999 at 12:27:07PM -0600, David DeSimone wrote: > The name you're looking for is "envelope separator", I believe. :) [] > The information stored there comes from the "envelope" of the message. > The From: header is a cosmetic header stored in your message, but the > "enve

something strange going on with the list?

1999-02-03 Thread Jim Graham
Is there (or, perhaps, was there) something really strange going on with the list? I've noticed quite a few duplicate messages from various people, and along with that, got a bounced e-mail from the list telling *ME* that it could not deliver the following e-mail *TO ME*...naturally, including th

Re: geocities mail goes screwy

1999-02-02 Thread Jim Graham
On Tue, Feb 02, 1999 at 10:01:11PM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > but I suggest modifying it to take into account non-standard headers, or > at least blank lines etc in them. Correct me if I'm wrong (I don't have my copy of the RFC handy, and it's been a long time), but isn't a blank line exa