On Sat, Dec 01, 2012 at 08:13:28AM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

> Pls excuse failing memory, you are correct.  The problem with my posts to
> yahoo lists is I post with a gmail addr but SMTP via my isp, not gmail. 

I can tell you what's happening, then.  I had this problem for a while
with one googlegroups list and gmail via (unintentionally) my isp.  The
error appears to be with authentication in SMTP.  Some lists don't seem
to care so much, but the one I was on (and I'm guessing the same is true
for the one you're on) don't like SPF=neutral or (obviously) SPF=fail;
they want SPF=pass.  Going through your isp to gmail's SMTP will get you
SPF=neutral, and your posts via e-mail get blocked.

So you need to connect and authenticate properly with gmail's SMTP
server.  However, with the addition of the "new" method for configuring
sendmail, I'm lost (sendmail.cf USED to be a lot easier for me to work
with).  So, when I learned about Mutt's new (to me) ability to connect
directly to gmail's SMTP server, log in properly, and deliver mail, while
still using fetchmail to get incoming POP3 mail, that was the obviosu
fix.

I fixed this by bypassing sendmail (or the popular substitutes---I,
personally, find sendmail the easiest to configure, mainly because of the
years I spent in the past with it, configuring sendmail.cf by hand).

Later,
   --jim

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