On Tue, Jan 08, 2013 at 05:33:02PM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> * Jim Graham <spooky1...@gmail.com> [01-08-13 13:38]:
> [...]
> > Just be advised, this will result in SPF=NEUTRAL or SPF=FAIL (usually
> > neutral, from what I've seen). Depending on the settings for the list
> > you're on (as well as what kind of server the list is running on), it
> > may be blocking e-mail from any source that does not show SPF=PASS.
> >
> > Unless I've missed some option to allow unauthenticated, yet still
> > validated, e-mail using gmail, you must authenticate correctly on
> > gmail to get SPF=PASS.
>
> I am on > 20 lists and the only ones I have a problem with are yahoo based
> and not worth the bother to correct. I can still read them and if I need
> to post, can stoop to yahoo's web interface (twice in the last two years).
Wrong. It's on at least some e-mail lists on googlegroups, too. I
know---I'm on several of them (Android developer type lists). No
SPF=PASS, and your posts go off into oblivion...not rejected, but not
posted to the list, either, unless you use the web interface (which, as
usual for web-based forum interfaces, sucks royally). I can confirm that
it is NOT true for all googlegroups lists, however. I own one, and had a
second one before that for a local club list. I shut the local club list
down, however, when after a year or so, half of the club hadn't signed
on (and just posted to the entire club by individual e-mail addresses),
and the other half posted to the club AND each individual e-mail address.
I decided that one was a waste of space and CANXd it. Neither of these
were set (however it's set) to require SPF=PASS.
Point is, just because you don't see the problem, doesn't mean it isn't
there. That is why I posted the warning, and along that said that the
list(s) in question "may be blocking...." Obviously not all do that, but
some do. If someone runs into that, IMHO, it's worth knowing ahead of
time what's going wrong if/when it does so, wouldn't you agree?
> One could set a my_hdr Bcc: based on send-hook, folder-hook, send2-hook or
> reply-hook. But you still would not see the msg returning via the mailing
> list software.
Yeah, I tried that....I obviously got the syntax wrong, though, and gave
up on it. If someone would please post an example, I'd appreciate it.
My attempts either resulted in Bcc with my address for EVERY e-mail or
threw an error about .muttrc having incorrect syntax.
Later,
--jim
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