On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 11:03:13AM -0600, David Champion wrote:
>I think that
>signing all mail as a policy is a waste of resources and a potential
>source of annoyance, whether it's list mail or not.
[...]
>anyone who is
>concerned about the validity of the message can check the signature if
>the
On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 06:21:34PM -0500,
Michael MacDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> is thought to have said:
> Can anyone point me in a good direction for solving this problem? I'm
> frustrated because I can't seem to figure out if the problem is with
> configuration or if it's implementation proble
Hi all.
I'm currently trying to be happy with mutt running against
courier-imapd, but I'm currently experiencing grief and frustration.
Basically, what I want is to use procmail to split out mailing list mail
into separate mailboxes like I was doing before I moved to imap. In my
mutt config, I
On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 02:53:49PM -0500, Josh Huber wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 11:12:37AM -0800, Gary Johnson wrote:
> > I think the only solution available to us is to change the internals of
> > mutt to recognize this sort of mangled subject. Perhaps "we" could add
> > a subject_ignore_
On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 03:53:59PM -0500, Douglas L . Potts wrote:
> set editor="vim -c ':0;/^To: '"
>
> it does a ':0' go to top of file, and then '/^To: ', search for first
> line that has To: in it at the very beginning. Whether or not you use
> the Mutt option to have the to/cc/etc lines i
On Thu, Dec 14, 2000, Bryan Walton wrote:
> But this didn't work. vi told me that it didn't understand tw. So I
> continued my search and found something that does work:
> set editor ="vi -c 'set wl=72'"
>
> vi understands the wl. However, when I begin to compose a message in
> mutt, the addit
Couple of things for you:
Quoting Bryan Walton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi,
> It has been advised that I set my .muttrc to wrap lines after 72
> characters. I have looked into how to do this and have some questions
> for the list. I looked around on the web for how to do this and found
> th
Hi,
It has been advised that I set my .muttrc to wrap lines after 72
characters. I have looked into how to do this and have some questions
for the list. I looked around on the web for how to do this and found
the following:
set editor ="vi -c 'set tw=72'"
But this didn't work. vi told
On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 09:05:53PM +0100, Thorsten Haude wrote:
> [-- PGP-Ausgabe folgt (aktuelle Zeit: Thu Dec 14 21:04:32 2000) --]
> gpg: Unterschrift vom Don 14 Dez 2000 20:02:38 CET, DSA Schlüssel ID 90F89A7D
> gpg: Schlüssels 90F89A7D von wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net wird angefordert ...
> gpg: Keine
Moin,
To get ontopic again:
On 00-12-14, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote:
- - -
[-- PGP-Ausgabe folgt (aktuelle Zeit: Thu Dec 14 21:04:32 2000) --]
gpg: Unterschrift vom Don 14 Dez 2000 20:02:38 CET, DSA Schlüssel ID 90F89A7D
gpg: Schlüssels 90F89A7D von wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net wird angefordert ...
gpg: Keine
* On Thursday, December 14, Thorsten Haude wrote:
> > "Am deutschen Wesen soll die Welt genesen."
> ^
> That would be 'Leitkultur' now.
This 'Leitkultur' discussion you Germans are having these days does
send chills down the spines of your fellow European neighbours.
Jesper
Bryan, et al --
...and then Bryan K. Walton said...
% Hi,
% I would first like to thank Graham, Brian, and Andrew for their responses to
my question regarding clearsigning my emails. As you can see, this message is
clearsigned.
You may have intended for it to be clearsigned, but it was
On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 11:12:37AM -0800, Gary Johnson wrote:
> [ifc-ml:] Re: [ifc-ml:]
>
>
> reply ID base message ID
>
> I hope that was clear.
>
> I think the only solution available to us is to change the internals of
> mu
Moin,
> "Am deutschen Wesen soll die Welt genesen."
^
That would be 'Leitkultur' now.
Thorsten
Rajesh --
Did you know that your clock is off?
...and then Rajesh Fowkar said...
% Hi Listers,
%
% I have downloaded the new mutt 1.2.5i rpm with compressed folder option enabled.
Yay :-)
%
% I have created a gzip file oldlih.gz ( tar -zcvf oldlih nov2000 ). Here nov2000 is
the archieve of
Rajesh Fowkar muttered:
> I have downloaded the new mutt 1.2.5i rpm with compressed folder
> option enabled.
>
> I have created a gzip file oldlih.gz ( tar -zcvf oldlih nov2000 )
^^^ ^^
The result is a tared and gziped file named 'oldlih'.
> Her
Myrddin --
...and then Myrddin said...
% Just like the subject says.
My guess, though I'm not one of the developers, is that gnupg is
considered to be more flexible and capable and thus a better tool to use
with mutt. Yeah, the licensing is great (which is great for anyone
writing hooks to it i
On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 10:20:17AM +0100, Daniel Kollar wrote:
> Hi,
>
> thank you the regexp, but mutt still does not show threads. I'm
> puzzled.
>
> An example of the subjects, which should be recognized as a thread is
> following:
>
> Subject: [ifc-ml:2583] Re: Illegal circuit data for smin
Ralf Hildebrandt writes:
> On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 07:44:57PM +0100, Thorsten Haude wrote:
>
> > >Yup. We're the good guys
> > Well, I wouldn't go this far.
>
> We're considerably better than the most :)
Sure.
"Am deutschen Wesen soll die Welt genesen."
Heard that before. Didn't like it.
Please trim your long lines next time.
> But when I try to access this oldlih.gz I am getting the message for a split second
>decompressing oldlih.gz and than the mutt bar displays the message no mailbox.
>What's wrong ?
It's called *compressed* folders patch - not "tar'ed and compressed"
On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 07:44:57PM +0100, Thorsten Haude wrote:
> >Yup. We're the good guys
> Well, I wouldn't go this far.
We're considerably better than the most :)
--
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Hi Listers,
I have downloaded the new mutt 1.2.5i rpm with compressed folder option enabled.
I have created a gzip file oldlih.gz ( tar -zcvf oldlih nov2000 ). Here nov2000 is the
archieve of the mailing list mailbox of nov. The new /etc/Muttrc has got the following
additional hooks for compre
Hi,
On 00-12-14, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote:
>Yup. We're the good guys
Well, I wouldn't go this far.
Thorsten
On Thu 14-Dec-2000 at 11:03:13AM -0600, David Champion wrote:
> This has come up before in my conversation with others. I think that
> signing all mail as a policy is a waste of resources and a potential
> source of annoyance, whether it's list mail or not. I think that
> sensitive material (c
On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 06:59:09PM +0100, Thorsten Haude muttered:
> Hi,
>
> this is certainly ot, but you made a really wrong assumption (I hope) about
> Germany and I don't want to let that stand.
Nor I; thank you for the correction.
>
> >I don't know the terms of the German grant to the FSF
On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 06:59:09PM +0100, Thorsten Haude wrote:
> You are either totally misinformed or denying that anything bad happened
> in these years. Which one?
> During my time in various schools, I had to take three classes about nazism
> in Germany. This is typical.
Yup. We're the goo
On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 06:24:10PM +0100, Werner Koch muttered:
> On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, David Champion wrote:
>
> > Having the signatures come up, and my mailer and OpenPGP client freeze
> > while I wait to download a signature that might and might not be on the
>
> And on a slow box (mine) it ev
Hi,
this is certainly ot, but you made a really wrong assumption (I hope) about
Germany and I don't want to let that stand.
>I don't know the terms of the German grant to the FSF for funding GPG;
>perhaps the test is on their web site (but, alas, I am not literate in
>German).
The site's native
This is getting kind of off-topic for this list ...
> Is the German government just as much a police state as the US? I'm not
> sure, but I suspect that -- in spite of their Orwellian ban on teaching
> the history of Germany in the 1930s and 1940s and other evidence -- they
> are not.
I am Ge
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Lars Hecking wrote:
> IMHO signing list email is a useless and wasteful exercise, especially
> if the sender hasn't submitted his/her keys to the public keyservers.
Well, that depends on the content of the mail. But you are right,
for the bulk of ML traffic, there is no n
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, David Champion wrote:
> Having the signatures come up, and my mailer and OpenPGP client freeze
> while I wait to download a signature that might and might not be on the
And on a slow box (mine) it even freezes during signature
verification. It would be much better if Mutt ha
On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 08:17:29AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] muttered:
> On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 05:48:30AM -0700, Charles Curley wrote:
> >
> > One reason is security. GPG is free software, PGP is captive. This means
> > you can get the GPG source, read it and compile it for yourself.
>
> What?
On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 06:27:54PM +0200, Peter Pentchev wrote:
> I dare you to name a relatively-modern version of csh, tcsh, bash, ksh
> or zsh, which does not have test/[ as a builtin ;)
Ok, you got me there. I'm sure they all have this as a builtin, but
was that at least the historical reaso
On 2000.12.14, in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Lars Hecking" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> IMHO signing list email is a useless and wasteful exercise, especially
> if the sender hasn't submitted his/her keys to the public keyservers.
> In this situation, those who have configured their encry
On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 11:12:48AM -0500, Josh Huber wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 07:37:47AM -0800, David Alban wrote:
> > Of course, this would be O.K. I prefer the [[ ]] operator (found in
> > ksh and bash 2.x) because it is smarter and more resistant to syntax
> > errors that occur with [
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Hi,
> I would first like to thank Graham, Brian, and Andrew for their responses to
>my question regarding clearsigning my emails. As you can see, this message is
>clearsigned.
Please trim your lines to 72-76 chars per line. Thank you.
IMHO signing list emai
On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 09:58:26AM -0600, Gottipati Aravind wrote:
> Hi
> In the Index , in the sent-mail folder (mailbox)all the messages
> show my name. I want to set it up so that the messages show the name of
> the person I sent the mail to.. and not my name! Is there a way to ask
> mu
On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 05:48:30AM -0700, Charles Curley wrote:
>
> One reason is security. GPG is free software, PGP is captive. This means
> you can get the GPG source, read it and compile it for yourself.
What? PGP source code has always been available. The source for PGP
6.5.8 can be downloa
On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 07:37:47AM -0800, David Alban wrote:
> Of course, this would be O.K. I prefer the [[ ]] operator (found in
> ksh and bash 2.x) because it is smarter and more resistant to syntax
> errors that occur with [ ] if a variable is undefined. But
> certainly one can use [ ] and
Hi
In the Index , in the sent-mail folder (mailbox)all the messages
show my name. I want to set it up so that the messages show the name of
the person I sent the mail to.. and not my name! Is there a way to ask
mutt to do this..? If its in the manual (I did not find it) give me the
secti
Peter,
At 2000/12/14/12:19 +0200 Peter Pentchev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Just a side note - is there a reason you could not use the standard '['
> test operator? Along with some quoting of possibly-null arguments, of
> course.. something like:
>
> [ -n "$1" ] && muttrc="$1"
>
> [ ! -e "$mu
Hi,
I would first like to thank Graham, Brian, and Andrew for their responses to
my question regarding clearsigning my emails. As you can see, this message is
clearsigned.
Now, I what I would like to do is configure Mut so that it will clearsign
automatically. I know there is
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
Hi,
I would first like to thank Graham, Brian, and Andrew for their responses to
my question regarding clearsigning my emails. As you can see, this message is
clearsigned.
Now, I what I would like to do is configure Mut so that it w
On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 08:22:33AM -0500, Thomas E. Dickey muttered:
> On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Charles Curley wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 01:56:21PM -0800, Myrddin muttered:
> > One reason is security. GPG is free software, PGP is captive. This means
> > you can get the GPG source, read it
Hi,
Jonathan Gift wrote:
>I remember when first on mutt there was a command to display all my
>aliases and then highlight one and send mail from there.
I press 'm', then .
Thorsten
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Charles Curley wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 01:56:21PM -0800, Myrddin muttered:
> One reason is security. GPG is free software, PGP is captive. This means
> you can get the GPG source, read it and compile it for yourself.
you also compile PGP (and presumably find the tim
Hi,
I remember when first on mutt there was a command to display all my
aliases and then highlight one and send mail from there. I can't seem to
find it and wonder if I've turned it off in my .muttrc file...
Thanks
Jonathan
--
"Hey, I think I finally got the hang of i-"
On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 01:56:21PM -0800, Myrddin muttered:
> Just like the subject says.
>
> I see on the mutt homepage that gnupg is recommended over pgp. Are there
> reasons for this beyond the whole 'use gnu whenever possible because of their
> licensing'? Or are there real, functional reas
On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 06:12:43PM -0800, David Alban wrote:
> Greetings!
>
> At 2000/12/13/18:58 -0600 David Champion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > You mean just to test the muttrc file and report parse errors?
> >
> > How about:
> > mutt -F test.muttrc -f /dev/null -e "push x" >/dev/null
Hi,
thank you the regexp, but mutt still does not show threads. I'm
puzzled.
An example of the subjects, which should be recognized as a thread is
following:
Subject: [ifc-ml:2583] Re: Illegal circuit data for smincut
Subject: [ifc-ml:2584] Re: Illegal circuit data for smincut
The sorting meth
Hi,
>I see on the mutt homepage that gnupg is recommended over pgp. Are there
>reasons for this beyond the whole 'use gnu whenever possible because of their
>licensing'? Or are there real, functional reasons behind choosing gnupg over
>pgp?
The whole 'use gnu whenever possible because of their
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