Re: [mailop] Anyone from Microsoft outlook.com? (re Outbound IP Space)

That's *NOT* "Outlook.com", but instead "protection.outlook.com", otherwise known as Exchange Online Protection. Different people behind that address, different senders that are not HotMail or, "Outlook" or Live.com. What seems to be the problem? Aloha, Michael. -- Sent from my Windows Phone

Re: [mailop] help with running a listserv and DMARC

You need to rewrite the From: Header. Aloha, Michael. -- Sent from my Windows Phone From: Steve Atkins Sent: ‎2/‎12/‎2015 10:23 AM To: mailop Cc: Geoff Mulligan Subject: Re: [mailop] help

Re: [mailop] help with running a listserv and DMARC

The issue will only get worse as time goes on. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise | Microsoft | Spam Analysis | "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." | Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ? -Original Message- From: mailop [mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org] On Behalf Of Martin A. Brooks

Re: [mailop] help with running a listserv and DMARC

y.com> Cc: mailop@mailop.org<mailto:mailop@mailop.org> Subject: Re: [mailop] help with running a listserv and DMARC On Feb 12, 2015, at 4:35 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 02/12/2015 01:26 PM, Michael Wise wrote: >> You need to rewrite the From: Header. >> > > To elabo

Re: [mailop] help with running a listserv and DMARC

n 02/12/2015 01:26 PM, Michael Wise wrote: >> You need to rewrite the From: Header. >> > To elaborate: if you send a message claiming to be From: u...@aol.com, > it's going to be rejected by anyone who checks their DMARC policy. > Because you aren't AOL. Rewrite t

Re: [mailop] help with running a listserv and DMARC

/golf_clap ☺ Especially the bit about, “nearly useless”. It is distressing that almost everyone pays more attention to how the sender describes themselves in a comment than the easily forge-able 822 From: address, and the trivially spoofable 821 MAIL FROM address, and that all of this traffic s

Re: [mailop] help with running a listserv and DMARC

Being able to render a judgment on the validity of the 822 From is too far away from the real question, and gets back to my point about a whole stack approach. The issue isn't the 822 From, or even the 821 MAIL FROM, but ... did this email come from whom the classical "Elderly Parents Reading E

Re: [mailop] AOL SCOMP messages

They are in response to someone with an AOL mailbox clicking on an email sent from your IP and then on the, "Report Spam" button. You should look at the traffic and either ... ignore it if it's a one-off, block the sender, or unsub the recipient. It's a bit of a time figuring out which is the be

Re: [mailop] help with running a listserv and DMARC

It's a part of the jigsaw puzzle, surely. But to make the pretty picture, many pieces are required, and at the end of the day, all the pieces must lock together. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise | Microsoft | Spam Analysis | "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." | Got the Junk Mail Reportin

Re: [mailop] AOL SCOMP messages

Exactly. We only really take AOL SCOMP reports at face value when there is a cluster of them; enough to lift the complaint above the noise down I the dust. It's very noisy, but has a tendency to be a canary in the coal mine to be sure. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise | Microsoft | Spam Analy

Re: [mailop] AOL SCOMP messages

Yes, and we call people who add other people to lists without their explicit permission, "Spammers". :) How you acquire permission, or better yet prove it after the fact ... questions for another day. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise | Microsoft | Spam Analysis | "Your Spam Specimen Has Been

Re: [mailop] Contact from spamhaus

First off ... we (the list) are not SpamHaus, nor do we play them on TV. That having been said, there may be other ways we can assist. Maybe. Could we get the most basic of clues, like the IP address(es) in question or the SpamHaus ticket? Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise | Microsoft | Spam A

Re: [mailop] Multiple mail server setup

"Backup" MXs still have use if you like to do certain kinds of spam analysis... Or did. Aloha, Michael. -- Sent from my Windows Phone From: Dave Warren Sent: ‎3/‎1/‎2015 11:15 PM To: mailop@mailop.org Subject:

Re: [mailop] Outlook

Almost certainly *NOT* outlook, but rather the rDNS is protection.outlook.com… Lemme guess, lighting up a new IP address? Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise | Microsoft | Spam Analysis | "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." | Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool

Re: [mailop] SPF for domains that don't send e-mail

Yes. Aloha, Michael. -- Sent from my Windows Phone From: Aaron C. de Bruyn Sent: ‎4/‎2/‎2015 7:36 AM To: mailop@mailop.org Subject: [mailop] SPF for domains that don't send e-mail On the note of trying to be a g

Re: [mailop] Anyone else experiencing problems with yahoo?

… Yes, but ours are 451-class issues. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise | Microsoft | Spam Analysis | "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." | Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ? From: mailop [mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org] On B

Re: [mailop] Possible sendmail name resolution issues triggered by hotmail.com zone change

Is this still occurring? A little birdie told me that it might be... just want to check. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise | Microsoft | Spam Analysis | "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." | Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ? -Original Message- From: mailop [mailto:mailop-boun...@m

Re: [mailop] Possible sendmail name resolution issues triggered by hotmail.com zone change

I have *NO* idea. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise | Microsoft | Spam Analysis | "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." | Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ? -Original Message- From: John R Levine [mailto:jo...@taugh.com] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 12:11 PM To: Michae

Re: [mailop] Possible sendmail name resolution issues triggered by hotmail.com zone change

In all likelihood, each of those individual IPs is a load balancer. My guess would be the beefiest F5 going, plus a hot spare. And who knows, might even be some Anycast going on. But I really have no idea about HotMail's Physical Plant and Network, so really can't comment authoritatively. But it

Re: [mailop] Possible sendmail name resolution issues triggered by hotmail.com zone change

No worries... Had a few issues with this one as well, but finally it took. Odd. Aloha, Michael. -- Sent from my Windows Phone From: Doug Barton<mailto:dougb@dougbarton.email> Sent: ‎5/‎29/‎2015 9:33 PM To: Michael Wise<mailto:michael.w...@microsoft.com&

Re: [mailop] Large DoS from protection.outlook.com servers.

Replied off-list. Aloha, Michael. -- Sent from my Windows Phone From: Jason J. W. Williams Sent: ‎6/‎18/‎2015 7:26 AM To: mailop@mailop.org Subject: [mailop] Large DoS from protection.outlook.com servers. ?

Re: [mailop] [uk-mail-managers] Blacklisted by hotmail/live (fwd)

What's the IP range in question? What's the error, exactly? Paraphrasing in this context helps no-one. If it's an error in the ticketing system, I might be able to get eyes on it, but otherwise... There is a support procedure that must be followed, no exceptions as per Legal. Aloha, Michael. -

Re: [mailop] [uk-mail-managers] Blacklisted by hotmail/live (fwd)

I've reached out, and it seems the issue is being investigated. Aloha, Michael. -- Sent from my Windows Phone From: Ian Eiloart<mailto:i...@sussex.ac.uk> Sent: ‎6/‎23/‎2015 9:13 AM To: Michael Wise<mailto:michael.w...@microsoft.com> Cc:

Re: [mailop] Delays to protection.outlook.com servers?

Protection.outlook.com != outlook.com Are you trying to send a whole bunch of mail from new IPs? What domains are you trying to deliver to, exactly? Aloha, Michael. -- Sent from my Windows Phone From: Xavier Beaudouin Sent: ‎6/‎30/‎2015 1:17

Re: [mailop] live.com bulking

Putting "Other Peoples' Links" in your mass mailings ... can be the road to ruin, especially if one of them winds up in a RHSBL like SURBL, URIBL, DBL, etc. My Advice ... is to have a locked down (ie. only *YOU* can add entries to it) redirector at your own domain for such like, but whatever you

Re: [mailop] live.com bulking

oft | Spam Analysis | "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." | Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool<http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=18275> ? From: Michael Wise Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 1:47 PM To: 'Laura Atkins' ; John Little Cc: mailop@mailo

Re: [mailop] dmarc p=reject...

Sometimes they may not even share a majority of their respective management chains. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise | Microsoft | Spam Analysis | "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." | Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ? From:

Re: [mailop] MailFoundry Replacement?

Exchange Online Protection? :) https://products.office.com/en-us/exchange/microsoft-exchange-online-protection-email-filter-and-anti-spam-protection-email-security-email-spam And yes, that's who I work for. We are currently in the Gartner "Leaders Quadrant". https://blogs.offi

Re: [mailop] MailFoundry Replacement?

Not yet in a position to speak on that. We do, however, support On Prem servers way beyond 10k users. Aloha, Michael. -- Sent from my Windows Phone From: Matthew Black<mailto:matthew.bl...@csulb.edu> Sent: ‎8/‎5/‎2015 1:44 PM To: Michael Wise<mailto:

Re: [mailop] MailFoundry Replacement?

 | "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." | Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ? -Original Message- From: Hugo Slabbert [mailto:hslabb...@stargate.ca] Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2015 2:03 PM To: Michael Wise Cc: Matthew Black ; Doug McIntyre ; mailop@mailop.org Subject: R

Re: [mailop] MailFoundry Replacement?

rocessed." | Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ? -Original Message- From: Matthew Black [mailto:matthew.bl...@csulb.edu] Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2015 2:22 PM To: Hugo Slabbert ; Michael Wise Cc: Doug McIntyre ; mailop@mailop.org Subject: RE: [mailop] MailFoundry Replacement? As f

Re: [mailop] Hotmail/Microsoft/Outlook - getting their attention

When you get LCA involved, or even mention them, things grind to a complete halt. Aloha, Michael. -- Sent from my Windows Phone From: Marc Perkel Sent: ‎9/‎3/‎2015 10:25 AM To: mailop@mailop.org Subject

Re: [mailop] Hotmail/Microsoft/Outlook - getting their attention

You need to understand perfectly .. that it doesn't matter. It's like asking to speak to a lawyer when you are being "Questioned" by the Police... it means an automatic arrest. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise | Microsoft | Spam Analysis | "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." | Got the Ju

Re: [mailop] Hotmail/Microsoft/Outlook - getting their attention

Analysis | "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." | Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool<http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=18275> ? From: Marc Perkel [mailto:supp...@junkemailfilter.com] Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2015 10:42 AM To: Michael Wise ; mailop@mailop

Re: [mailop] Hotmail/Microsoft/Outlook - getting their attention

Tool<http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=18275> ? From: Brian Curry [mailto:bcu...@merkleinc.com] Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2015 11:11 AM To: Michael Wise ; Marc Perkel ; mailop@mailop.org Subject: RE: [mailop] Hotmail/Microsoft/Outlook - getting their attention Agreed t

Re: [mailop] Protection Outlook..

If you see this ... X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: SFV:SPM (Specifically, the "SFV:SPM") That means we thought it was spam, but due to the pipelined nature of our service, rather than drop it on the floor as some do, we were compelled to deliver it. The traffic came in via a TLS c

Re: [mailop] Protection Outlook..

rocessed." | Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ? -Original Message- From: Michael Peddemors [mailto:mich...@linuxmagic.com] Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 12:25 PM To: Michael Wise ; mailop Subject: Re: [mailop] Protection Outlook.. On 15-09-14 12:16 PM, Michael Wise wrote

Re: [mailop] Hotmail/Microsoft Contact Available?

If it has anything to do with Hotmail, this is the wrong advice. If it’s specific to Hotmail or Outlook.com email addresses and such like… http://mail.live.com/mail/troubleshooting.aspx

Re: [mailop] Hotmail/Microsoft Contact Available?

om] Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 2:29 PM To: Michael Wise Cc: mailop@mailop.org Subject: Re: [mailop] Hotmail/Microsoft Contact Available? That brings up a very good point: can anyone make this link at least mildly more prominent than a 'here' anchor in the middle of a large body of text u

Re: [mailop] Hotmail/Microsoft Contact Available?

- From: mailop [mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org] On Behalf Of Steve Atkins Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 2:54 PM To: mailop@mailop.org Subject: Re: [mailop] Hotmail/Microsoft Contact Available? > On Sep 14, 2015, at 2:33 PM, Michael Wise wrote: > > It’s on my bucket list…. OTOH

Re: [mailop] Protection Outlook..

Original Message- From: mailop [mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org] On Behalf Of Noel Butler Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 3:16 PM To: mailop@mailop.org Subject: Re: [mailop] Protection Outlook.. On 15/09/2015 05:34, Michael Wise wrote: > > We are compelled to deliver it; t

Re: [mailop] Hotmail/Microsoft Contact Available?

orf...@elementality.org> Sent: ‎9/‎15/‎2015 12:03 AM To: mailop@mailop.org<mailto:mailop@mailop.org> Subject: Re: [mailop] Hotmail/Microsoft Contact Available? On 15/9/2015 12:12 ??, Michael Wise wrote: Sooner or later, your discussions will end there, and the ticketing will begin. There

Re: [mailop] Protection Outlook..

Um, No.[tm] I pointed out the header and value to safely write a rule for the traffic way down thread, and you've chosen to ignore my advice. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise | Microsoft | Spam Analysis | "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." | Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ? -Orig

Re: [mailop] Protection Outlook..

About the only way to report it that won't get ignored (presupposing this didn't wind up in the mailbox of a HotMail, AOL, Yahoo, or similar service that we have an ARF-based Feedback Loop with) is via SpamCop. Seriously,

Re: [mailop] Microsoft sending multiple Message-ID headers in password reset links..

I'm considering unsubing from the list. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise | Microsoft | Spam Analysis | "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." | Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ? -Original Message- From: mailop [mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org] On Behalf Of Al Iverson Sent: Tuesday,

Re: [mailop] Protection Outlook..

on Outlook.. > From: Michael Wise > The account has probably already been killed. I doubt that. I quoted entire header and the one-line body, but: == Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2015 22:03:03 +0300 From: l...@lena.kiev.ua To: ab...@micro

Re: [mailop] Microsoft sending multiple Message-ID headers in password reset links..

No, it doesn't. After all, technically Message-ID is an optional field. I bitch and moan about that, but nobody cares... They all end up pointing to, "SHOULD", and I can't really do anything but :'( And the information is not pertinent. If this ML is going to become a forum for reporting spam, I

Re: [mailop] Microsoft sending multiple Message-ID headers in password reset links..

From: Gil Bahat [mailto:g...@magisto.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 12:07 PM To: Michael Wise Cc: Steve Freegard ; mailop@mailop.org Subject: Re: [mailop] Microsoft sending multiple Message-ID headers in password reset links.. Hi, the archives will quickly tell you the list never was suc

Re: [mailop] Ex-post-facto spam complaints, a possible UI problem / other mitigation

Ignore any reports where the email was received by the recipient beyond a certain window. 24 hours is probably too soon. 1 week may very well be the sweet spot, because … if it really *IS* a campaign, chances are you dealt with it well within the 24 hour window. 1 month is way too late. Conden

Re: [mailop] Ex-post-facto spam complaints, a possible UI problem / other mitigation

Analysis | "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." | Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool<http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=18275> ? From: Mark Foster [mailto:blak...@blakjak.net] Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 12:53 PM To: Michael Wise Cc: Gil Bahat ; mailop@ma

Re: [mailop] Ex-post-facto spam complaints, a possible UI problem / other mitigation

Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." | Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool<http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=18275> ? From: Mark Foster [mailto:blak...@blakjak.net] Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 1:30 PM To: Michael Wise Cc: Gil Bahat ; mailop@mailop.org Subject: Re:

Re: [mailop] Anyone from Microsoft

Where is the mail going (Hotmail or hosted domains), and what IP range is it coming from? Aloha, Michael. -- Sent from my Windows Phone From: Brett Schenker Sent: ‎10/‎29/‎2015 1:49 PM To: mailop@mailop.org Su

Re: [mailop] Anyone from Microsoft

What He Said. Opening a ticket from the LIVE.com site (Outlook.com, Hotmail, Live, MSN, etc) is the only way to handle these tickets "We" are prohibited by Legal from fast-tracking any escalations. " What we do for one, we must do for *ALL*. " If we can't do it for all, we can't do it at all. W

Re: [mailop] Office 365 - 4.7.550 Access Denied

If it's Office 365, SmartScreen won't be involved. If these are new IPs ... hydrate them, slowly, is my advice. If you are talking to Office 365 Support, and you're not an Office 365 customer, that's going to be rough. Have you considered getting one of your recipients to ask for an escalation on

Re: [mailop] Office 365 - 4.7.550 Access Denied

au] Sent: Monday, November 2, 2015 5:41 PM To: Michael Wise ; mailop@mailop.org Subject: RE: Office 365 - 4.7.550 Access Denied The support team at Office 365 eventually came through for us and its sorted now. Was quite an effort, but got it done! From: Michael Wise [mailto:michael.w...@microsoft.com]

Re: [mailop] Microsoft delisting not working

Tool<http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=18275> ? From: Matthew Black [mailto:matthew.bl...@csulb.edu] Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2015 3:32 PM To: Michael Wise ; mailop@mailop.org Subject: Microsoft delisting not working We're an EOP (Office365) customer with on-premises Exch

Re: [mailop] Phishing mails sent through Office 365

Heh. Please send me the headers for analysis and I'll see if I can cause the sender some amount of ... discomfort. :) No guarantees, though; we have certain constraints. But I can make darned sure the below-noted advice is working as designed. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise | Microsoft | Sp

Re: [mailop] Spurious 'Client host [xyz] blocked using b.barracudacentral.org' replies

Back In The Day, there was a BCP for shutting down a DNSBL that included running a daily check of the IP 127.0.0.1 (which should never hit), IIRC, as well as 127.0.0.2 (which should always return a hit); and if my memory serves, if either criteria was different (both listed or neither listed), t

Re: [mailop] Spurious 'Client host [xyz] blocked using b.barracudacentral.org' replies

On Behalf Of Steve Atkins Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 11:57 AM To: mailop@mailop.org Subject: Re: [mailop] Spurious 'Client host [xyz] blocked using b.barracudacentral.org' replies > On Jan 21, 2016, at 11:35 AM, Michael Wise wrote: > > Back In The Day, there was a

Re: [mailop] Gmail throttles anyway

Authentication-Results: spf=none (sender IP is 213.138.100.131) smtp.mailfrom=mailop.org; microsoft.com; dkim=fail (signature did not verify) header.d=linkedin.com;microsoft.com; dmarc=fail action=oreject header.from=linkedin.com; Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise | Microsoft | Spam Analysis | "Y

Re: [mailop] Gmail throttles anyway

aspx?id=18275> ? From: Franck Martin [mailto:fmar...@linkedin.com] Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2016 1:01 PM To: Michael Wise Cc: Neil Schwartzman ; mailop ; Andreas Schamanek Subject: Re: [mailop] Gmail throttles anyway On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Michael Wise mailto:michael.w...@micro

Re: [mailop] Gmail throttles anyway

If you're going to run a mailing-list and you don't believe in DKIM ... fine! But remove the DKIM headers before resending the traffic, please. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise | Microsoft | Spam Analysis | "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." | Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ? -Orig

Re: [mailop] Gmail throttles anyway

- Michael J Wise | Microsoft | Spam Analysis | "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." | Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ? -Original Message- From: John Levine [mailto:jo...@taugh.com] Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2016 5:11 PM To: mailop@mailop.org Cc: Michael Wise Subject

Re: [mailop] Gmail throttles anyway

om: John R Levine<mailto:jo...@taugh.com> Sent: ‎2/‎4/‎2016 5:51 PM To: Michael Wise<mailto:michael.w...@microsoft.com> Cc: mailop@mailop.org<mailto:mailop@mailop.org> Subject: RE: [mailop] Gmail throttles anyway > If you're going to do something that will break the DKI

Re: [mailop] Gmail throttles anyway

@taugh.com] Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2016 5:59 PM To: Michael Wise Cc: mailop@mailop.org Subject: RE: [mailop] Gmail throttles anyway > If it's a mailing list, the traffic is not simply passing thru. Since the > message is being modified, the signature should at the very least be &g

Re: [mailop] Gmail throttles anyway

quot; | Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ? -Original Message- From: SM [mailto:s...@resistor.net] Sent: Friday, February 5, 2016 3:09 PM To: Michael Wise ; mailop@mailop.org Subject: Re: [mailop] Gmail throttles anyway Hi Michael, At 17:27 04-02-2016, Michael Wise wrote: >If you'r

Re: [mailop] Spike in "554 Transaction failed" from Microsoft properties

It's Not Just You. It's being actively investigated, and it appears the impact is small... But rest assured it is most certainly being looked at. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise | Microsoft | Spam Analysis | "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." | Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ? -O

Re: [mailop] Spike in "554 Transaction failed" from Microsoft properties

erability Management MailPlus B.V. Netherlands -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: mailop [mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org] Namens Michael Wise Verzonden: woensdag 10 februari 2016 02:49 Aan: frnk...@iname.com; mailop@mailop.org Onderwerp: Re: [mailop] Spike in "554 Transaction failed" fr

Re: [mailop] Spike in "554 Transaction failed" from Microsoft properties

1:18 AM To: Michael Wise ; mailop@mailop.org Subject: RE: [mailop] Spike in "554 Transaction failed" from Microsoft properties Not yet... x...@live.nl:2016-02-10 20:00:05+0100,ret-uid-...@bounces.mailplus.nl,smtp;554 Transaction failed,https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=mx2

Re: [mailop] DKIM issues with mails from outbound.protection.outlook.com

I am aware that issues with DKIM under certain circumstances are actively being investigated, but am not sure if this is the issue, sorry. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise | Microsoft | Spam Analysis | "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." | Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ? -Original

Re: [mailop] how does one get off the spamhaus CBL?!

The CBL is different. Sounds like you've tried to delist yourself a few times without understanding the root cause Aloha, Michael. -- Sent from my Windows Phone From: Miles Fidelman Sent: ‎2/‎22/‎2016 6:17 AM Cc: mailop@mailo

Re: [mailop] Very large spike in false positives with Microsoft domains

You should have seen the last of, “Transaction Failed” at about 1pm last Thursday, Feb 18th. If you’ve seen it since, we need to see the whole bounce. As to the rest … I’d need to see some more explicit samples. “Redacted” is fine. But we need to know the banner you got when you connected, and as

Re: [mailop] Very large spike in false positives with Microsoft domains

I am told they found the issue on our side and took the server out of rotation, so hopefully that clears up *THAT*. Still waiting on an explanation of the empty reply explanation. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise | Microsoft | Spam Analysis | "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." | Got the J

Re: [mailop] proper NULL MX behaviour for MTAs?

And Exchange. Aloha, Michael. -- Sent from my Windows Phone From: Franck Martin via mailop Sent: ‎2/‎27/‎2016 7:39 PM To: Mark Jeftovic Cc: Suresh Ramasubramanian; mailop

Re: [mailop] proper NULL MX behaviour for MTAs?

ail.com> Sent: ‎2/‎27/‎2016 8:12 PM To: Michael Wise<mailto:michael.w...@microsoft.com> Cc: Franck Martin<mailto:fmar...@linkedin.com>; Mark Jeftovic<mailto:mar...@easydns.com>; mailop<mailto:mailop@mailop.org> Subject: Re: [mailop] proper NULL MX behaviour for MTAs? If

Re: [mailop] msn/outlook blacklist advice

If you are about to move to a new IP, open a ticket and include the following magic words in the comments: "pre-emptive accommodation" Then make your case. If your IPs are blocked, open a ticket. You will either receive a mitigation or you won't. If you don't, reply to the ticket and make your

Re: [mailop] Google DNS Servers not returning results for Hotmail today?

The DNS server records have an apparent TTL of 10 minutes. Move or no, that shouldn't result in no records returned. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise | Microsoft | Spam Analysis | "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." | Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ? -Original Message- From: mai

Re: [mailop] Google DNS Servers not returning results for Hotmail today?

Hotmail doesn't publish any DNSSEC records. Neither does Microsoft.com, etc As for the rDNS, this is from my home server: $ host 65.55.169.87 87.169.55.65.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer mail-bl2on0087.outbound.protection.outlook.com. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise | Micros

Re: [mailop] Google DNS Servers not returning results for Hotmail today?

protection.outlook.com/?url=110.90.55.65.in-addr.arpa&data=01%7c01%7cmichael.wise%40microsoft.com%7ce6cb1e9eb28e4eb3f79608d346dadf8f%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=JQ31EN4jPO%2bbmfwxRZu4igbDBpWZJhwGicilcSVn11I%3d not found: 2(SERVFAIL) On 16-03-07 02:14 PM, Michael W

Re: [mailop] Google DNS Servers not returning results for Hotmail today?

-Original Message- From: Doug Barton [mailto:dougb@dougbarton.email] Sent: Tuesday, March 8, 2016 1:24 PM To: Michael Wise ; Tony Bunce ; Michael Peddemors ; mailop@mailop.org Subject: Re: [mailop] Google DNS Servers not returning results for Hotmail today? host isn't rea

Re: [mailop] Mail accepted by outlook.com/hotmail.com disappears.

| "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." | Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool<http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=18275> ? From: Aaron C. de Bruyn [mailto:aa...@heyaaron.com] Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 11:40 AM To: Michael Wise Cc: Jay Hennigan ; mailop@mailop

Re: [mailop] Mail accepted by outlook.com/hotmail.com disappears.

microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=18275> ? From: Rodgers, Anthony (DTMB) [mailto:rodger...@michigan.gov] Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 11:29 AM To: Michael Wise ; Aaron C. de Bruyn ; mailop@mailop.org Subject: RE: [mailop] Mail accepted by outlook.com/hotmail.com disappears. “…d

Re: [mailop] Mail accepted by outlook.com/hotmail.com disappears.

Has the customer signed up for JMRP or SNDS? Because if not, that would be step #0; see below. And yes, under certain circumstances, Hotmail/Outlook will 250 the mail, and may then if it considers the IP sufficiently toxic, delete it without delivering it to the intended recipient’s INBOX or Jun

Re: [mailop] Mail accepted by outlook.com/hotmail.com disappears.

We *ARE* working on making it easier… Witness this (granted, if’s for Exchange Online, but): https://sender.office.com Some of it is taking longer than everyone would prefer, but. Is that shack for rent on weekends? Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise | Microsoft | Spam Analysis |

Re: [mailop] Checkpoint firewall/spam appliance..

Noted Aloha, Michael. -- Sent from my Windows Phone From: Michael Peddemors Sent: ‎3/‎18/‎2016 10:22 AM To: mailop@mailop.org Subject: Re: [mailop] Checkpoint firewall/spam appliance.. On 16-03-18 09:52

Re: [mailop] Mail accepted by outlook.com/hotmail.com disappears.

) [mailto:rodger...@michigan.gov] Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 11:49 AM To: Michael Wise ; Aaron C. de Bruyn ; mailop@mailop.org Subject: RE: [mailop] Mail accepted by outlook.com/hotmail.com disappears. “HotMail has been doing it for some time.” Oh, I know ☺ “It’s another policy we’re trying to change.” I

[mailop] FW: Mail accepted by outlook.com/hotmail.com disappears.

Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise | Microsoft | Spam Analysis | "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." | Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ? -Original Message----- From: Michael Wise Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 4:22 PM To: 'Renaud Allard' Subject: RE: [mail

Re: [mailop] Mail accepted by outlook.com/hotmail.com disappears.

Michael. -- Sent from my Windows Phone From: Luke Martinez<mailto:luke.marti...@sendgrid.com> Sent: ‎3/‎17/‎2016 5:47 PM To: Michael Wise<mailto:michael.w...@microsoft.com> Cc: Aaron C. de Bruyn<mailto:aa...@heyaaron.com>; mailop@mailop.org<mailto

Re: [mailop] Mail accepted by outlook.com/hotmail.com disappears.

t the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ? -Original Message- From: mailop [mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org] On Behalf Of Alarig Le Lay Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2016 2:50 AM To: mailop@mailop.org Subject: Re: [mailop] Mail accepted by outlook.com/hotmail.com disappears. On Fri Mar 18 00:38:36 201

Re: [mailop] Mail accepted by outlook.com/hotmail.com disappears.

utlook.com/hotmail.com disappears. On 19/03/2016 09:11, Renaud Allard via mailop wrote: > On 18/03/16 01:38, Michael Wise wrote: >> And yes, under certain circumstances, Hotmail/Outlook will 250 the >> mail, >> and may then if it considers the IP sufficiently toxic, delete it

Re: [mailop] Yahoo DMARC changes - Proxying SMTP auth for freemail users

A question ... Outside of the spam case, how typical is it for someone to send from one Freemail provider with a Reply-To: pointing to *ANOTHER* Freemail provider? Just wondering. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise | Microsoft | Spam Analysis | "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." | Got th

Re: [mailop] Outlook SPF Record change.. Is it true?

I suspect this is part of an IP consolidation move. But I'm not completely certain. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise | Microsoft | Spam Analysis | "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." | Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ? -Original Message- From: mailop [mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop

Re: [mailop] Mail accepted by outlook.com/hotmail.com disappears.

OF COURSE! THAT'S THE SOLU... Oh wait, that means we have to get 10x the number of servers ... and data centers. Management won't like that. So many people think that the things that work just spiffily when everything you do fits on a single mail server, will scale across a cluster that has ten

Re: [mailop] Mail accepted by outlook.com/hotmail.com disappears.

outlook.com/hotmail.com disappears. On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 01:21:17AM +0000, Michael Wise wrote: > Oh wait, that means we have to get 10x the number of servers ... and data > centers. Actually, the measures I outlined require *fewer* servers, less storage, and (in most cases) less network bandwid

Re: [mailop] Mail accepted by outlook.com/hotmail.com disappears.

Yes. A decade ago our service ran on it. Aloha, Michael. -- Sent from my Windows Phone From: Aaron C. de Bruyn<mailto:aa...@heyaaron.com> Sent: ‎3/‎29/‎2016 7:37 PM To: Michael Wise<mailto:michael.w...@microsoft.com> Cc: Rich Kulawiec<mailto:r...@gs

Re: [mailop] Mail accepted by outlook.com/hotmail.com disappears.

. -- Sent from my Windows Phone From: Aaron C. de Bruyn<mailto:aa...@heyaaron.com> Sent: ‎3/‎29/‎2016 7:45 PM To: Michael Wise<mailto:michael.w...@microsoft.com> Cc: Rich Kulawiec<mailto:r...@gsp.org>; mailop@mailop.org<mailto:mailop@mailop.org&

Re: [mailop] Mail accepted by outlook.com/hotmail.com disappears.

The shape of the systems are quite different. For instance, DNSBLs. If we queried SpamHaus, or any other DNSBL provider directly, they would instantly fall over. How long it takes to process each email becomes hyper critical... But you know, these Disk Size Wars are pointless. We're hiring! And

Re: [mailop] Mail accepted by outlook.com/hotmail.com disappears.

1) We require each FD server to accept around a thousand connections a second. :( 2) AV is not in our team's scope, but... yeah. 3) Hehehe... I <3 RegEx. I'd say more, but ... We're Being Watched. And not by Yoda. And then there's fingerprinting, clustering, campaign ... I'm repeating my

Re: [mailop] Still seeing Microsoft 5.4.0 issues?

Is the, “5.4.0 “ the entire bounce code / response? If there’s more, we need to know to build a case. If that’s it, that should be enough, but we need to know which it is. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise | Microsoft | Spam Analysis | "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." | Got the Junk Mail

Re: [mailop] Still seeing Microsoft 5.4.0 issues?

1:01 PM To: Michael Wise<mailto:michael.w...@microsoft.com> Cc: Josh Nason<mailto:jna...@dyn.com>; mailop<mailto:mailop@mailop.org> Subject: Re: [mailop] Still seeing Microsoft 5.4.0 issues? I just queried some data at google scale and found bounces with “5.4.0” (nothin

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