Heh.

Would love to stop using the pipelined metaphor, but alas; I'm not in charge of 
the design, coding, or anything else... I just try to make sure that the spammy 
stuff is tagged as spam so y'all can look at it and decide for yourselves, 
easily. :)

There are many, many other types of messages with NUL sender that are not 
bounces.

We are compelled to deliver it; talk to the senders who wander around wondering 
what the heck happened to a message that they handed off to a given mailhost 
and it was never delivered.

Much screaming if traffic you thought at the moment was spam, and you just drop 
it on the floor.
Many people scream in your face if you get it wrong.

There's things that work at the single mailhost level, and there's things that 
work at the couple of redundant server level, and there stuff that works when 
you have tens of thousands of servers being one service... and they all have 
very little to do with each other beyond a set of protocols they are all 
supposed to speak. Very little at all. I wish it were otherwise, but it's not.

Aloha,
Michael.
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Processed." | Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ?

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Peddemors [mailto:mich...@linuxmagic.com] 
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 12:25 PM
To: Michael Wise <michael.w...@microsoft.com>; mailop <mailop@mailop.org>
Subject: Re: [mailop] Protection Outlook.. <sic>

On 15-09-14 12:16 PM, Michael Wise wrote:
> If you see this ...
>
>       X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: SFV:SPM
>       (Specifically, the "SFV:SPM")
>
> That means we thought it was spam, but due to the pipelined nature of our 
> service, rather than drop it on the floor as some do, we were compelled to 
> deliver it. The traffic came in via a TLS connection from Bharti Airtel Ltd. 
> In India. The account has probably already been killed.
>
> Aloha,
> Michael.
>

This of course doesn't address the original question of why allowing 
delivery of messages without the MAIL FROM: that aren't really bounces.. 
(Time to stop pipelining ;)

Thanks for the tip.. But it isn't helping anyone if you keep sending 
obvious spam out of your networks..

You aren't REALLY compelled to deliver it..

Hard to believe that the infrastructure can't reject known spam..


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