I still find for the fastest and most efficient way to read my e-mail
is to use mutt on my Linux box. That's hardly the right answer for a
Mac users list though. When I am in Apple's Mail, the only complaint
I have right now other than general GUI clunkiness, is the problem
with VO not reading th
What I do quite often in Lion / mail, is when I have a message I want
to move, I press Shift-VO-m to open a context menu; most of the way
down that menu, there are copy and move commands with sub menus; the
various folders on your system are in those sub menus. I use that all
the time to move mess
gt;>>> around a bonfire under the full moon, etc. lol It took me forever to
>>>> actually do it.
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Donna
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 28, 2012, at 8:23 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>
;> Ricardo,
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you remember how to do this? I remember doing it when I first got
>>>>> my Mac, and it seemed to involve magical incantations, dancing in a
>>>>> circle around a bonfire under the full moon, etc. lol It too
e opened messages appear each in their
> own window.
>
> If a message has been read, VO says nothingm, but it does say "Unread",
> "Message was forwarded", etc.
>
> This way of viewing mail could be what you're looking for.
>
> Cheers,
>
> An
I don't know specific file names but one could create some labels and
then jump into the shell and do some 'ls -ltr' commands on directories
to see what the latest file creation date might be. I forget the
command option to do this recursively but the idea here would be to
find the most recently c
One thing I notice with my Refreshabraille connected via bluetooth to
my iPod is whenever the screen locks, The Braille display appears to
go off line and show the standard startup message. If I hit the Home
button on the iPod, the display reconnects. I don't necessarily have
any problem with thi
t;>> hit the button, otherwise it stays on with the screen off. I find it
> >>> easiest this way. Besides, I often use the two together, reading
> >>> braille but doing some commands on the screen at the same time.
> >>>
> >>> On 3/22/12, Kawal G
Arre you wired with a cable to your ISP or are you using WIFI? I know,
that doesn't necessarily explain the difference between your windows
box and your mac but perhaps a direct wire connection to your router
may give you a more stable connection; especially when it comes to
downloading large files
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 07:03:30PM -0700, Jamie Tachiyama wrote:
> They get around it by making the Kindle for PC app accessible.
>
>
> On 3/22/12, Hank Smith wrote:
> > so because of stupid drm copy write crap the blind can't read the ebooks?
> > On 3/22/2012 6:30 PM, Esther wrote:
> >> Hi Jeff
I would also be interested in knowing this. The only thing I've seen
so far is the Read to Go app for bookshare books but it isn't really
all that good and I don't think you can use it on other daisy books
anyway. It seems to crash quite often and you can't used it directly
with VO from what I've
o run
in iBook? That is probably a long shot for sure.
Any ideas here???
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 03:42:51PM -0700, Steve Holmes wrote:
> I would also be interested in knowing this. The only thing I've seen
> so far is the Read to Go app for bookshare books but it isn't really
>
ks out for
> you. take care.
> On Mar 27, 2012, at 8:55 PM, Steve Holmes wrote:
>
>> I haven't seen any replies to this yet; doesn't anyone out there use
>> daisy books on either IOS or mac? Particularly on IOS devices? I don't
>> think Read to Go is viable
One thing I did with my mac mini was to set up at least one app to run
at login time. In my case, I chose terminal as I do like to go into
the shell quite often. For some reason, when I do this VoiceOver will
always come up talking after login and the finder focuses me on the
desktop. I have ter
That's interesting, Mark, as when I reply here with the gmail web
interface, it only puts the list address in the To: field and leaves
the Cc: field empty. I wonder if it depends some on the client being
used. Not sure about the reply all function in gmail; that would
probably stick the second ad
On 3/29/12, erik burggraaf wrote:
> I use calc to handle all my company accounts. I track receivables,
> expenses, hours worked, billed, collected and remaining. the open office
> word processer leaves a bit to be desired, but the spreadsheeting componant
> is really super.
Is this also true f
No signature seen here.
Iona, I also have this same problem. Having the checkbox unchecked
for threaded mail does help but you're right; it still marks them as
read when you cursor by the single messages. I have number of preview
lines set to None but still have the problem. When I asked about
I know, this is a really old thread but I'm going through my folder
here and thought I would comment on dropbox if you haven't already
figured this out. I saw a dropbox folder on my new mac mini but I
have no idea what it was for because there was no dropbox app
installed. When I installed the dr
Sorry for digging up this thread so late but I have over a thousand
messages to look through and there is valuable information I might
miss since I'm new to the Mac.
Now, I have just discovered another probable source for gross
miss-spellings. I am a recent owner of a new Refreshabraille display
Jessica,
I think your mail problem may not relate specifically to the mail
iPhone app but maybe you're just getting too much mail! perhaps you
subscribed to too many high volume email lists? I mean, you said the
stuff you deleted isn't coming back but you're getting more new
stuff. In other words
I wonder if FileZilla would work on a Mac? It is free from sourceforge
and it worked beautifully on Windows with Window-Eyes. I tried it
under Linux but was not accessible with GNOME / Orca. Makes me think
it *MIGHT* work with VO; here's hoping.
On Wed, Mar 07, 2012 at 05:00:16PM -0600, Maxwell
Jessica,
I sent you an answer earlier this evening on the other long mail
thread that was going. One thing for sure, if you plan to read your
mail on both your iPhone and on the mac, then by all means use IMAP
and not POP3! Especially with gmail, my suggestions of creating
special labels and filt
On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 06:41:51PM +0100, Daniela Rubio wrote:
> With lion it is just impossible.
This is a big show stopper indeed! For us Lion users, there is no
really good powerful Office application available! I hear about Pages
and Numbers but I understand they are rather limitted and table
Oh and sorry for this second message but you know? I came across this
thread with 45 messages covering 3 or 4 different subjects. Come on
people, *PLEASE* don't hijack an existing thread to post on another
subject. I am verry interested in thie subject of LibreOffice and
OpenOffice but I was not
Dunno about any help topics, but I recall syncing my iPod with Google
Calendar via the iCloud settings. I only messed around with it once
several months ago but I could put an entry into calendar on the iPod
and I verified its presence up on the website for Google calendar. I
haven't received any
I think this is similar to Bill's empty DVD problems but I'm actually
wondering what the solution is when I get into these situations. If I
plug in a USB drive which happens to have no files yet, the finder
goes into that damn busy stuff and I can't get out of it any way, any
how. I always end up
You might look at the macport or homebrew projects as they sport the building
of many unix packages.
I happen to use homebrew here and have built emacspeak to run on my mac.
Haven't tried java or anyh of that but it might be as simple as entering the
command:
brew jave
and it goes out and gets
Thanks also, Mark. I definitely would like to try this method of
reading BRF files now that I bought my new Refreshabraille.
In case some of you are like me and never use iTunes to sync my iPod,
you could copy the converted file to your dropbox folder and then use
the dropbox app on the IOS devic
mmand 2 to get into list mode.
>>>> For
>>>> me this problem seems to mostly happen in column view. Now that you're
>>>> in
>>>> list mode, try again. Let me know if this works. Apple has shown very
>>>> little interest in solving this problem.
&
That's a real disappointment that the conversion or rendering of PDFs
into Safari doesn't preserve table markup. Frankly, I hate it when
screen readers and some of the OCR programs want to linearize a table.
Try and imagine parsing a bus schedule or bank statement with say 8
to fifteen columns ac
d that if
> >> I exported the file to Word, the width of the columns got changed. In my
> >> case, I'm just not going to worry about it because I have a work around.
> >> If I had been just using Pages, things would have been just fine, and
> >> maybe I ju
Well, you are going to be using a router no matter what so none of your own
computers need to be involved with sharing any internet connections.
I personally recommend Linksys for home routers; most have a decent web
interface for configuration and they have four hardware network ports plus you
What do you mean you have to buy them? Those apps appear to be on my
Lion Mac Mini and I didn't especially load them. I haven't run any of
them yet so I don't know if they are some sort of trial or starter
versions or not. I have received updates for them when updating my
system so I thought thos
Actually, this subject interests me to though I have lots to learn
about Apple stuff in general. So keep the replies on list if nobody
else minds too much.
On 4/17/12, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> Hi List,
>
> I was wondering if anyone has taken the ACSP exam, and wouldn't mind
> answering some basic
Hi Esther and Buddy,
I want to thank you both for the ideas for using mail in the newer
"modern" view and being able to close up the message body pane. It
works great for me now and the read/unread flags don't get changed by
merely going up and down the message list anymore. I think mail on
the
I remember someone recommending Checkbook to do Well, checkbook
management on the Mac. When I looked in the app store this morning, I
saw two Checkbook apps there; Checkbook for $14.95 and Checkbook Pro
for $19.95 or so. Does anyone know the difference between them? I may
just go for the cheaper
>From what I see at this website, I know about as much about olearia
now as I did before. the link to the documentation is broken and when
I open the zip file, I see two files with the same name - olearia.app.
I don't know how that was accomplished in the same zip but given there
isn't a single st
More specifically, cut/copy and paste take an object (file, mail
message, etc.) and stick it into a holding place - namely, the
clipboard. Then Paste takes it from the clipboard and puts it where
you are wanting to paste it. Dragging and dropping done with the
VO-comma and VO-period moves an obje
sation? Ya know, an email with 6 messages.
>>
>> Thanks for continuing my Mac learning. :)
>> Traci
>>
>> Sent by Macbook Air Mail
>>
>> On Apr 18, 2012, at 9:29 AM, Steve Holmes wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Esther and Buddy,
>>>
>>> I wa
This sounds like an interesting technique indeed. However, I have a
question or two concerning capitalization. Do you mean that all BRF
books are in all upper case? If so, I wonder why. With selecting the
entire file as you suggest, you would end up with all lower case which
is OK I guess for si
On 4/18/12, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:
> Hi:
> I have Checkbook Pro. The Pro version lets you move entries in to smart
> folders, create global account summaries, etc. See the below link.
> http://www.splasm.com/checkbookpro/
> On Apr 18, 2012, at 11:35 AM, Steve Holmes wrote:
>
y in upper case, but both files
> translate the same.
>
> The transformations were suggested to reduce the display of dots go and 8,
> since too many . those dots drive some of us crazy.
>
> Regards,
> Gigi
>
> Euge Firth
> gigifi...@sbcglobal.net
>
>
>
> On Apr 19, 20
2 17:16
> Subject: How to change my name on the email client
>
>
>> Just got my married name officially changed to Keller.
>>
>> How do I change my identification name so that it will show on my emails.
>>
>> Jenny
>> On Apr 19, 2012, at 12:43 PM, Steve Hol
started with a brand new message instead of
replying.
On 4/19/12, Jennifer Perdue wrote:
> I'm so sorry,
>
> I was sure that I changed the subject line on the message, but you have to
> understand that I am still a new Mac user so I made a mistake.
>
> Jenny
> On Apr 19, 2012
Yes, I didn't see any quoted text below so I assume yhou started a new message
from scratch and that's what you should do when starting a new thread.
Anyway, I thought I saw a reply to your question earlier this morning. I've
never actually changed my name in Apple Mail yet. I know it's pretty
Hi Jenny,
First,let me try and explain once more, how to reply privately; at least, how
it works on my system and I just practice the steps a few times to be sure
things would behave consistently. To begin with, I am not in classic view but
I don't think that will matter for message replies.
That won't work on many email lists because the reply-to value is often set for
the list itself. She is trying to reply privately to the original sender. I
see that my message went into the bit bucket or something. I wrote a nice long
explanation on how to reply and to get into classic mode.
Jenny,
Try this. Press VO-comma to get into the application preferences and make sure
you're in the Viewing pane. Hint: the first option there will be to toggle
Classic mode on or off. In this pane, VO-rightarrow all they way through the
options until you get to a checkbox that says "Show mo
You could possibly do searches on the Twitter website and look for any names
with LDS or mormon in them. I know Tweetlist for IOS devices has a search
feature to to find entries to follow. I haven't tried yorufukurou yet on my
mac. You should also try search terms in twitter in case prominent
Sorry for digging up such an old message but I never saw any replies. Has
anyone tried this bookel app for the mac? I hesitate to spend ten bucks to
gamble on accessibility.
On Feb 7, 2012, at 9:08 AM, Robert Carter wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I just got email from the Take Control Book publisher announ
Hi, Is there any way to get VO on the mac to stop saying "data detecter" every
time you arrow across what text is perceived to be an address or phone number?
I find this to be especially annoying when arrowing through emails in
particular. It also says that every time you left or right arrow thr
/12, Jenny Keller wrote:
> I've never heard of that program or ap.
>
> Can you explain what it is if it works on the Mac.
>
> Learning is fun and prosperous:)
>
> Jenny
> On Apr 22, 2012, at 4:11 PM, Steve Holmes wrote:
>
>> bookel
>
> --
> You recei
I just tried Tim's link that was given in the message below and I get an empty
HTML in Safari. I guess he has pulled the page already? I would have really
loved to try out the mentioned script.
On Apr 19, 2012, at 5:08 PM, Esther wrote:
> http://web.me.com/kilburns/
--
You received this messa
In OS/X and GUI environments in Linux type systems, the insertion point
(cursor) sits between the character just typed and any future characters typed
after that. What I mean is say you typed something like Testing123 and then
move the insertion point back over that phrase; say we leave that po
> Again, those are public pages which should stay around until Tim migrates
> from MobileMe to iCloud, as he'll have to do by June 30th.
>
> HTH. Cheers,
>
> Esther
>
>
> On Apr 23, 2012, at 2:14 PM, Steve Holmes wrote:
>
>> I just tried Tim's link that w
Anyone have an answer to this question? I got no replies from before
and I still haven't found a way to get Data Detecter to go away.
On 4/23/12, Steve Holmes wrote:
> Hi, Is there any way to get VO on the mac to stop saying "data detecter"
> every time you arrow across what
I've only had limitted exposure to classic view in Mail but from what
I remember, the subject, author, and date and whatever were in
separate cells of the message list table so while interacting with the
message table, try arrowing side to side in the table to see if you
can hear a column of subjec
Why can't blind people compete with sighted? Is it just the
competitive disadvantage or is there some goofy plicy some place?
Just wondering.
On 4/27/12, David Hole wrote:
> Hi folks.
>
> I've found a new game that's accessible, but blind people can't
> compete with sighted.
> The game is called
That's interesting about extra functionality. However, my complaint has been
that if you happen to be arrowing through a data detecter field letter by
letter or even word, it keeps saying "data detecter" for every keystroke. that
is what I would wanna be rid of. I think I like the idea of a s
I also have gmail accounts here and have been experimenting around with Mac
Mail to figure out the best behavior for message deletion. First off, I do not
see a good way to delete messages from gmail with the Mac mail client. Rather,
you ultimately have to get the unwanted messages moved to [G
So true, so true!!!
That's why I commend Apple for their accessibility efforts and I hope the trend
could spread over other things. I like to think that maybe IOS apps could be
written more easily than building entire new tactile interfaces on appliances
but then again, I just got a Sony dock f
Try moving them to [Gmail]/Trash instead. That's what I do.
See my other mail about deleting. You could follow that route for a while and
then go into that folder of deleted messages and move them to [Gmail]/Trash.
Too bad we can't write a macro for Apple Mail to do this. That's what I do when
When you do this, are the messages being moved to Trash or they actually going
away? Slso, are you absolutely sure they are being removed from the All Mail
folder? A lot of people fail to realize that as long as messages are in All
mail, they are around forever.
On Apr 28, 2012, at 1:00 PM, M.
When I went into gmail settings, I could not find anything to enable immediate
deletion of messages. I recall some time ago when there was an option in
Google Labs supporting an option to make gmail's IMAP emulation work like
normal IMAP servers but I haven't heard anything more on this since t
Another thing that makes the argument comparing synthesized speech with human
speech totally fallacious is that when a device offers synthesized speech such
as with an iPad, one can use a Braille display and actually read the book
rather than listen to it. We are denied that opportunity if we ca
to a TidBits article which will show you how to
> configure apple mail to work with gmail's imap implementation. Gmail has
> changed some since the article was written but you should be able to figure
> it out.
> http://tidbits.com/article/10253
>
> Robert Carter
> On Apr 28
is convuluted, because Google thinks
> youwant to keep everything and because IMAP has an idea of deleting that does
> not use a trash folder. The article previously mentioned from tidbits does a
> much better description then I can of how to get these to mesh correctly.
>
> Jonathan
Look through the flury of messages and particularly those concerning
Mail Wierdness. Robert Carter posted a link in his reply detailing
out how to configure Apple Mail and gmail to work beautifully with
organization of folders and deletion of messages. Take a look there.
I can't explain all that
of my system and reinstall lion a couple
> of weeks ago, now a bunch of things, including mail are just acting weird!
>
> Just goes to show macs aren't left out of being finicky sometimes-lol!
>
> Thanks again.
> Cait
>
> On 2012-04-30, at 4:11 PM, Steve Holmes wrote:
In addition to Skype, are there any good SIP phone clients for the Mac
which are accessible? I've used Linphone on Linux from the command
line but would be interested in a Mac solution if there is one. Skype
may be popular but the protocol is proprietary and SIP is more
universal. SIP is probably
You will probably not like my answer; I never get that problem on my
Mac Mini. Even back when I first got my Mini and did not have a
monitor connected, VO woldn't start automatically after I logged in
but I got the same behavior every time I started my machine. One
thing different with my settup
I second Jonhathan's remarks here. Apple provides a 1 year warantee
for all their computers at a minimum and if you can dig up a spare $99
before this June, you can extend your coverage for an additional two
years; that's the Apple Care program. Anyway, without the Apple Care,
you can still get t
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On May 1, 2012, at 12:33 PM, Jenny Keller wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Oh boy, that's not in my budget.
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess I'll just have to deal with it.
>>>>&g
The interaction thing is probably the most confusing but yet powerful
part of VoiceOver. What I do with my setup in Mail is to interact
with the list of mail boxes which can actually be navigated as a tree
view with expanded and collapsed nodes. Anyway, once I choose the
mail box I want to work w
I have another question for this subject; I thought I had read that
the modes (DOM or Groups) could be selected for each site you go to
and VO would remember that preference when you go back to a given
site. Did I read this wrong? I do not observe that aspect to be
working on my setup.
The differ
I understand all itunes issues have to be resolved online / email.
When you call Apple support, they will most likely give you the URL or
email address to follow through with. It's stuff like this I wish I
could deal with in person on the phone; generally lots quicker that
way. You might also try
How do you click column headers with VO on a Mac? An example of where
I need to do this is with the list view in iTunes where I want to sort
the tracks differently than Artist. In my immediate situation, I have
some "various artist" type collections where I don't want tracks
sorted by track artist
It doesn't surprise me much that it isn't accessible; I mean, look at
their kindle crap product and their sweetheart relationship with the
authors' guild. I wouldn't use or buy anything from Amazon until they
take a better approach to accessibility.
On 5/2/12, Teresa Cochran wrote:
> Yes, it jus
Yes, the economic benefits of using skype or other SIP based phone
services make it worth while. I also like the idea of flexibility;
especially now that the iPod app for skype is quite accessible now, I
can use skype on my iPod over WIFI now. Where I live right now, all I
have phone wise is a ch
command it will sort up the way, and the second time, it sorts down the way.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Anne
>
>
> On 2 May 2012, at 21:35, Steve Holmes wrote:
>
>> How do you click column headers with VO on a Mac? An example of where
>> I need to do this is with the list v
Another neat way to get PDFs or EPUB books onto an iPhone is to use
Dropbox and then use the dropbox app to download and export the file
into iBooks.
On 5/2/12, Gigi wrote:
> Hi again well
> If you email a PDF file to yourself, when you call up the attachment, one of
> the choices is to send the
On 5/2/12, Anne Robertson wrote:
>
> I also use the Safari Reader for reading articles.
What is Safari Reader? is that just part of the normal web browser or
is that something else. Sorry for silly question.
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On 5/2/12, Anne Robertson wrote:
> Hello Steve,
>
> Have you looked at the full list of VO commands? You can find them by doing
> VO-h-h. You'd be amazed!
Oh I know. I've been in there from time to time and mainly used it to
look up something specific. I would have never expected VO to provide
t;> Then find more music from The Guide Dog Glee Club and Veronica Elsea at
>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>> Veronica Elsea, Owner
>> Laurel Creek Music Designs
>> Santa Cruz, California
>> Phone: 831-429-6407
>>
>> On Apr 27, 2012, at 1:46 PM, Steve Ho
I use Dropbox on my mac with no problems. I'm trying to remember at
the beginning when I installed it if there was anything to beware of.
Obviously at some point while installing Dropbox on the computer, you
will have to supply user and password. That should have happened when
running the dropbox
That's too bad too. When I'm on Linux using Orca, Libreoffice
generally works pretty well. To me, LibreOffice and OpenOffice are
the most powerful non Microsoft office products out there. iWorks is
3 years old and God knows if it is going to be updated or not and with
OpenOffice inaccessibility,
rk pretty
> decent until OSX 10.7 and they are just now starting to get things
> working again. Not sure what happened to break everything since other
> apps didn't fall apart like this.
>
> CB
>
> On 5/10/12 3:31 PM, Steve Holmes wrote:
>> That's too bad too.
Is there any documentation available for this app anywhere? The link to the
user manual on the site is broken and the zip file only has an .app file. So
how is one supposed to be able to use this thing?
I'm not one who likes to install an app and have no clue where to go from
there. That's lik
Yes, that is right. You use your same Apple-ID to hook up with the cloud.
On May 10, 2012, at 6:42 PM, Mike Busboom wrote:
> Thanks for your responses. I have never used iCloud, but am I correct in
> guessing that I would log in through my iPhone's settings and that the
> password I use for b
have this app, so I'm not entirely sure if
> it has documentation, but it's one more thing to try.
>
> HTH,
> Teresa
>
> "The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete Graham
>
> On May 10, 2012, at 10:04 PM, Steve Holmes wrote:
>
>> Is there
I usually get it all the time when I press the two left and right arrow keys
together. I already enabled that aspect inside the VO configuration. I did
experience an oddity yesterday where the letter commands wouldn't work but the
vertical keys worked with the web rooter and I could left and r
For me, the finder has always sorted my files by ascending order by name. You
might use VO-Comma to open finder preferencees and look for any sorting
options. Also, look in the View menu from the menu bar while in the finder.
there you should be able to check the default view and possibly the
Funny I just came across your message this morning shortly after I
experienced this very thing for the first time with my iPod. It was
like this incredible long lag time where actions from the Braille
display would back up in a queue or something and then trickle to the
iPod maybe five seconds lat
Like Tim said, just use the VO + arrow keys to navigate the Go menu.
since VO keys include Option, you get the library folder exposed every
time. I used to not realize that Library was normally hidden to users
I may have changed something in the shell near the beginning of my
time with the mac but
I have two somewhat related questions here.
1. I've noticed that some links identified by VO as normal links, will
not yield the typical context menu when I press Shift-VO-m; I just get
the menu with 5 items and are all full page related. But other links
on the same page do work properly and will
I thought you had to use Shift-VO-Down arrow to get into the spelling
list. Am I wrong? I may be confusing some of this with IOS devices
but I ran into spelling issues while tweeting with Yorufukurou
numerous times and am unsure how I got around some of them.
On 5/29/12, Garth Humphreys wrote:
>
o downloads list. OR go to your downloads
> folder and see if it is there. If this does not work I have no idea why.
> hth
> IOana
>
> Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online
> stores.
>
> On May 31, 2012, at 11:50 AM, Steve Holmes wrote:
>
Plus if still unsure or if you have been wandering around in other sub
folders or something, you can tab through the dialog for composing the
message and listen for the From e-mail address which should up as a
push button menu. If you want to change what is currently spoken, just
press that button
ads list. OR
>> go to your downloads folder and see if it is there. If this does not
>> work I have no idea why. hth
>> IOana
>>
>> Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com
>> <http://www.ioanagandrabur.com> on iTunes and most online stores.
>>
&g
; If I end up playing an mp3 file or displaying a PDF file in Safari,
> I'll use the two steps given above to force a download of the file.
> You do not have to wait for the entire file to download in Safari
> before you issue your Command+L followed by a press of the "Return&q
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