ys but we blnd people ay MUC more for the same functioality! most scanners come
with free ocr programs that work great but are cmpletey inaccessible
On Apr 29, 2011, at 12:04 PM, brandt wrote:
> Remember, sighted folks pay for programs they need just like we do, it's just
> so typically blind t
well mst people who DO have those toys got them through vr services, which
doesn't happe like it used to and I for one never got SHIT from my vr jerk
counselor or the commission for the blind
On Apr 29, 2011, at 4:12 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> I disagree,
>
> Since most the people on this li
30 apr 2011 kl. 01.45 skrev Kimberly thurman:
> I just bought a Cannon Lied 210 and bought Vuscan just to be able to scan
> photographs and the like, as the drivers that are included with the Cannon
> scanner are not accessible with VO
Strange, how come then, that i, who are totally blind can
only 5 megapixels damn that's redulous the camera my girlfriend totes around
is 12 and costs $200 so what's the extra couple hundred buying you I am
tired f blindness products raping us cause they can a camera and a tripod
wow thats ot worth tha tkind of money for only 5 mp, the new I
if one more person comes on here and lectures about saving money I'm going to
delete this list oviously you are one of the rich governement employee blind
nfb freaks
On Apr 29, 2011, at 9:19 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:
> Thank you!!
> There is also this concept of saving money. If you want an
yes why should we pay MORE because we are blind
On Apr 29, 2011, at 6:13 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
> Ricardo,
>
> That is really my point. What are you willing to pay for ease of use and
> quality of results. If the $100 ABBYY Fine Reader Express product gets the
> job done to your satisfactio
I love the fact that I don't have to beg someone else to fix my comptuer when
windows blows a gasket and falls apart! i can reinstall and do all the
maintinance on my mac myself windows yeah right you still have to see to
install that trash
On Apr 29, 2011, at 10:34 PM, Aman Singer wrote:
>
even the public radio station would require that anything is on their equipment
and never goes to the cloud so i couldn't use it even to help out at th elocal
public or calssical station it coul dnot even be used for scanning documents
for the animal rescue i am part of due to confidentiality
Cheree Heppe here:
Where are the privacy concerns in this app's development strategy? For my
money, blind people who must read printed documents would do as well to obtain
volunteer strangers off the street, because that is how private DocuScan's
document reading would be by comparison.
In mo
Aman,
For The best thing is you have choice. APple has not failed at all and in fact
has made an absolutely significant leap in the market. THe numbers speak for
themselves and based on that it is apparent many feel the Mac is a worthwhile
investment. I understand your point concerning a mobile
Please delete this list because your comments are incredibly offensive. Being a
government employee has nothing to do with this topic and contrary to popular
belief, government employees are not rich. As far as saving money, it is not a
lecture, it is something you should already understand and
Cheree Heppe here:
There has been a discussion about accessible apps for document scanning.
With this in mind, the following David Pogue article suggests lots of visual
ways to photograph. Since I am totally blind, I'm not going to be
photographing any time soon because I can't be sure of the
Jaws runs on the windows side. Voiceover is used to manage the vm.
On Apr 30, 2011, at 1:36 AM, "Steve Gladstone" wrote:
> When using the split operating system on a Macbook, do you load and then use
> JAWS when you are on the Windows side? Or does Voice Over give the feedback
> when using wor
Hey all,
For those of you who have used iMovie 11 with vo, I have some questions:
what is your prefered method for editing a clip? like, for example, if I
wanted to cut the middle out of a clip.
How do you edit the text of titles with vo?
is there any ways to make vo read the timeline any better
Compare the build quality of a cheap PC laptop to a Mac and you will see that
you get what you pay for. The closest in build quality to Apple is Sony.
Computers are like cars, you can buy cheap ones, or you can buy luxury ones.
They all have 4 wheels and get you from A to B, just some do it q
Hi Mary, The EyePal Camera does do two pages at a time as long as the total
size of the pages is not greater than 8.5 by 11, or possibly 8.5 by 14 I forget
which.
Best,
Erik Burggraaf
User support consultant,
Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf,
1-888-255-5194
http://www.erik-b
i think after you scan a document you can password protect it. so privacy isn't
a concern.
On Apr 30, 2011, at 6:15 AM, Cheree Heppe wrote:
> Cheree Heppe here:
>
> Where are the privacy concerns in this app's development strategy? For my
> money, blind people who must read printed documents
Also what about the cost of the cloud in this case? Bandwidth is cheep, but
thousands of users thumping novels in .tif format up to the server takes it's
toll. Plus there's a person with a pager taped to his junk who has to get out
of bed or ditch his dinner or whatever if that server goes dow
Cheree Heppe here:
That isn't the real determiner.
The determiner will be the long term committment to usability and universal
accessibility from these developers and manufacturers.
The guy who is fully able to use his whatsit now finds himself debilitated some
way later.
Right now, Apple has
Good choice Cheree.
Indeed, in my personal opinion, and based on my actual experience, you could
not make a better choice than Apple.
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
Skype name:
barefootedray
On Apr 30, 2011, at 8:26 AM, Cheree wrote:
> Ch
Okay. Here's the thing.
I can't seem to select and copy text on people's Facebook walls. I interact
with the text I want to select, and, then, I get stuck. Using VO+return to
begin and end selections does not work. Can't use shift+arrow keys either.
Any other thoughts?
Sincerely,
The Con
No, I do not work for the Government, and I do not belong to any blindness
organization what so ever. I'm definitely not anywhere near rich, I've just
been taught how to handle money, by my grandparents, who grew up in the
Depression. My grandmother could get 30 cents out of a quarter. LOL
On Ap
Hi:
VR will usually not buy a Mac for clients. That is rare if you got your Mac
through VR.
On Apr 30, 2011, at 4:10 AM, Michael Thurman wrote:
> well mst people who DO have those toys got them through vr services, which
> doesn't happe like it used to and I for one never got SHIT from my vr j
Hi:
Don't forget about viruses and spyware on the Windows platform VS Mac. Also,
tech support from Apple is wonderful! When you say you are blind, they work
with You, can't beat that. The Apple store provides 1 to 1 training, you can't
get that with a Windows machine.
On Apr 30, 2011, at 4:35
Hello:
For those using this program, how is the quality of the text when scanned?
Kurzweil does a good job with tables, for example. What about docuscan?
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Hi Aman,
Interesting yet uninformed. Even without you admitting it, I would guess from
your post that you don't use a Mac and follow the mainstream and archaic views
of many PC users with respect to the usability and adaptability of the
Macintosh platform. Your price comparisons are exaggerat
Hi there,
Well, let me put it in prospective for you.
A Mac mini goes for what, $599? Over here the price is R6999 which translate
in to $1076 as of this morning.
Warm regards,
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to my show, "an Ecle
if it helps anyone, when I complained to Apple about this, I told them I was
planning on buying a MM subscription but could not due to the inaccessibility
of their web-site, and they gave me a free subscription to it for a year whilst
they worked on the problem.
if it is not fixed when it runs
what I would just say here is that I've found nothing for a Mac / iPhone / iPad
user that comes close to the level of integration that the Mobile Me service
offers, sure there's similar, but nothing is quite as all encompassing and
delivers such ease with regards to the Apple side of things, it
It's funny how this "old school" PC mythology and mindset still shows
itself from time to time. I just had a discussion with a group of friends
about the Mac and the PC last weekend. I was amused and astounded by the types
of ridiculous claims one person was making about the Mac and why W
You are lucky, I had to pay for mine still!
On 30 Apr 2011, at 17:32, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote:
> if it helps anyone, when I complained to Apple about this, I told them I was
> planning on buying a MM subscription but could not due to the inaccessibility
> of their web-site, and they gave
Hello all, I was wondering if anyone knew of a accessible Skee ball game in the
app store. I have been playing the one by Freeverse but it doesn't tell the
score at the end of the round. or give anything that vo can read. Thanks ED
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Hi listers,
I received my first bluetooth braille display, the BrailleConnect 40,
this week. So far, I am quite happy with it when I use it via USB,
but I have gotten some odd results when attempting to use it via
bluetooth. On my first night with it, I was able to pair it with my
mac without a
Was it worth it?
Donna
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On Apr 30, 2011, at 12:44 PM, Chris Moore wrote:
> You are lucky, I had to pay
well, i today tried it scanning with my mac's built in iSight camera. I
was surprised at how good it was. In fact, better than my deskjet f2200
scanner. KW1000, imho, does have better accuracy though.
ash
On 30/04/2011 16:10, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:
Hello:
For those using this program, how i
So far, I have to say I am very impressed. In fact, I was really pleased
by what results I have been getting. I am very critical of OCR and, thus, tend
to be very selective. This, to me, is a very accurate piece of software.
Take Care
John D. Panarese
Director
Mac for the Blind
j...@mac
I am truly frustrated with this problem on FaceBook. I have not come up with a
work around other than constantly turning VO off and on. I waste so much time
it's not even funny. Is this a Safari/VO issue or a FaceBook issue. Has
anyone contacted the appropriate people to report this? Is it
What is vm?
_
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Hunt
Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 7:02 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Macbook and JAWS
Jaws runs on the windows side. Voiceover is used to manage th
A VM stands for a virtual machine which is what it sounds; a virtual
computer. Using virtual machines, you can run say windows on snow leopard;
that means that both operating systems are active at the same time. If
you're interested in doing something like that on snow leopard, look at
VMWare fusio
Wow. It will use your internal camera? You're serious? That's awesome. Now I
have a reason to consider picking it up. Thanks for the tip.
On Apr 30, 2011, at 1:19 PM, Ashley Cox wrote:
> well, i today tried it scanning with my mac's built in iSight camera. I was
> surprised at how good it was. I
It will. It works better, though, with the hd cameras in the new macbook
pro's. not sure about the none-hd cameras.
just try not to get the shakes when holding up the paper...
On 30/04/2011 18:52, Kevin Reeves wrote:
Wow. It will use your internal camera? You're serious? That's awesome. Now I
Hello; the only thing I've been able to do is to use the control-
option-command f5 to make sure the cursor is on the comment link or
see more link i want and then using the open link in new window. this
is a pain too. It works ok, but especially when reviewing comments i
end up with doze
Hello all,
I was trying to do a software update from inside the app store and there was a
program called traficbot that had a update.
I was not able to do this update since the program was active and was running
in the background.
My conclusion: there is no way on the mac for voiceover users to
Hi, Tim.
Rather than labelling your arguments with emotionally-laden terms
such as "archaic" or "misinformed", let me deal with them one by one
on their merits, if I may. As an aside, it is astonishing to me that
people generally are so defensive about the technology they use.
Frankly, I ha
Hi, Scott.
Let me first thank you for a civil reply. I am grateful for your
answering my message without a hint of emotionalism and without trying
to defend any particular technology or option in a sharp way. I think
my reply to Tim deals with everything below except for one matter, and
that is mar
Hey, Mark,
Sorry it has taken me a while to respond. I finally found a
chance to play with the Dashboard. Fun times!
I'll blow you up on Skype sometime this weekend. Hope
everything is cool!
Ezzie
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From: Mark BurningHawk Baxter I can help out with Dashboard off
I think it is well worth it, it makes more financial sense if you have a family
pass, so if you have a wife / husband / partner etc, that way the cost begins
to dramatically fall per user, but I'd still even have the single user account.
yes its expensive compared to similar other services, I th
This is not exactly true, though I fear the subject of this thread is
starting to drift far astray. It is going to start getting a bit complicated
if I were to explain to you the several marketing factors that make your
asserted numbers very misleading. Yes, without a doubt, the share of
I use the regular facebook all the time with webkit and do not experience this
issue. Perhaps webkit works better?
On Apr 30, 2011, at 2:30 PM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
> Hello; the only thing I've been able to do is to use the
> control-option-command f5 to make sure the cursor is on the comme
Hi Neil,
thanks. I've always been a bit put off by the price. I use Time Machine to
back up my Mac, and have just relied on syncing to keep my contacts current.
But I may have to take a look, and at least give it a try. I do like the
Remote Lock features, and the ability to find your phone,
Hi,
I hope you and others are doing more than hoping this is fixed. Write to the
developers and make them aware of your likes and dislikes. Just making your
feelings known on list want accomplish much. I'm not talking about you
specifically keep in mind, just this list in general. Make your
Lol,
I think your mistaken. If you took a survey of people on the list, or of blind
people with apple products in general, I bet you will find maybe 90% purchased
their own stuff. Agencies are still reluctant to hand out Macs. BTW, I don't
see why the hostility is needed in your post. My ad
Thanks a bunch, Kevin. Sorry for the late response.
Ezzie
- Original Message -
From: Kevin Reeves Hello. Recording and publishing a podcast, while easy to do,
takes some explaining. Head over to www.schoolofpodcasting.com.
There, you should find tons of guides and explanations on how
I use webkit and still have these issues. Another serious source of
irritation is that when you move down through the news feed, and the
page expands to add more information, VO brings you back to the top of
the page. I remember someone suggested I try using group mode instead
of DOM mode, but th
I think this is a limitation with the OCR engine. It uses the nuance engine,
which is also in Kurzweil 1000. I don't think there is a version of the engine
that runs on a mac, hopefully this will be developed in the future. It is
annoying to still see the mac treated as second class.
On Apr 30,
I can't help but wonder if the eyesight camera would work at all with this.
On Apr 30, 2011, at 12:37 AM, David Tanner wrote:
> The camera is suppose to go on sale next week.
>
> - Original Message - From: "Aman Singer"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 12:28 PM
> Subject: Re: For th
David, were your Cannon scanner drivers inaccessible with VO? I couldn't make
heads or tails out of them with VO myself, but they have to be running to use
the scanner. I have scanned stuff with Vuscan, which I already bought. I use
Vuscan for things that do not need OCR. I'm considering Doc
When using windows, you would use a windows screen reader. There are ways to
open microsoft office documents using mac software such as with open office and
iwork.
On Apr 30, 2011, at 1:36 AM, Steve Gladstone wrote:
> When using the split operating system on a Macbook, do you load and then use
Another difference is, compare the bloatware that is installed with cheaper
PCS. In most cases, if you build a PC yourself and use good quality parts, you
will end up paying about what you do for a mac.
On Apr 30, 2011, at 6:51 AM, Chris Moore wrote:
> Compare the build quality of a cheap PC lap
Dear Ray,
Try using copy last spoken phrase to the cpliboard command vo+shipft+c
immediatley after Voiceover has spoken the text or even while it is speaking. I
use this feature regualry with good results, and then copy the spoken text into
a text edit window.
hope this will help a little.
Si
Hello , dear list moderator:
I' am glad to introduce myself to the list members:
My name is Mostafa Al'mahdy , I live in Cairo , which's obviously the
chief capital of the golden Egyptian sands , why am I here?
Well , since I have been considering to switch my entire computing usage to
the
Oh, what a great idea for the "see more stories" link. Is there a key
combination for open the link in new window command or do I just use the
context menu? I know how to use the context menu but if there was a different
or quicker way I'd like to know. :)
Also, I've seen several mentions of
Surely, you meant VO+shift+c? Using the command key with the above results in
finding previous text with same atributes or something.
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
Skype name:
barefootedray
On Apr 30, 2011, at 5:21 PM, Simon Cavendish wro
Hey,
To get fb working in adium again do the following. Make sure you have a
created a facebook username on your fb profile and do the follow.
1. Go to the accounts and selece new account.
2. Select jaber as the connection type.
3. At the username edit box, type your fb username you c
Hi I'm kerius if envy knows of something that is excessible and would let me
stream watch and record tv on my mac?
Something that would plug into my network and allow this. If envy one knows of
such a device that would be grate to find out what it is.
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hello; that's another frustrating thing about the current version of
facebook. normally, I'd use the command plus enter for open in new
window, but that doesn't work in facebook even though it works in
every other webpage I've visited in the last year. If you can find
the link, usually com
Aman,
Your message does mix a number of things here, but the end result is the Mac is
beyond what your willing to spend and that is pretty much where it should end.
Any argument beyond that is pointless. The most unrealistic part is breaking
this down to components. The average user is not at a
Aman,
Incorrect. Microsoft has been able to dominate the market simply by virtue of
the fact that so many manufacturers install that OS. If APple were to allow the
same thing, I suspect the song would be quite different. THis whole issue of
adaptability holds no water and as I said is pointless
From what I have tried on it thus far it is very good. I have not tried any
really tough stuff yet, but once I get it back to my office on Monday I'll
have a chance to really put it to the test.
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From: "Sarai Bucciarelli"
To:
Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 10:10
I would agree, and add that I have seen very few recognition errors on
anything that I have scanned, and some of the stuff was newsletters, and
other stuff with a lot of print in different sizes and fonts.
- Original Message -
From: "John Panarese"
To:
Sent: Saturday, April 30, 20
Me too. I also wonder how people are getting the descriptive tracks for such
shows as CSI and NCIS? I know the stations hide that in their signal
somewhere that according to WGBH's info, very few things can receive, but
how can one do it?
Thanks.
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From: "Mike Huck
Hi, Scott.
You write
Your message does mix a number of things here, but the end result is
the Mac is beyond what your willing to spend and that is pretty much
where it should
end. Any argument beyond that is pointless.
I'm glad, Scott, that you know my motives better than I do. I m
Hi, John.
Thank you for the civil reply. I agree with you that this thread
risks wandering, so I will respond very briefly to all your points by
saying three things. First, I do not deny that OSX has been increasing
in market share for some years. I am just saying that, despite this
increas
Hi guys:
I could use some help. I've screwed up 1 account in CBP. The columns are not
appearing in the order I want. Somehow, the date column was moved to the last
column in the table, not the first. How can I fix this?
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Hi Aman,
Honestly, I have seen numbers that range from Apple having anywhere from 9
percent to 15 percent of the overall market. It all depends on what you read,
what they use for statistical data and what they are actually including as
"market share". Additionally, as I mentioned and Sco
Scott and Aman:
Please cut it right here, or have this discussion off list.
For everyone else, please let's shut this thread down, NOW!
Thank you and good evening.
Carolyn
On Apr 30, 2011, at 8:31 PM, Aman Singer wrote:
> Hi, Scott.
> You write
> Your message does mix a number of things h
Cheree Heppe here:
Yes, especially with the Apple products, most agencies for the blind still
operate on a one thing fits all modality.
Most Apple users have gotten their own devices, but, most blind people have not
and most still use Windows based technology.
Regards,
Cheree Heppe
Sent from
I certainly will, and I hope others will too. I know a lot of people at
Serotek, including the president of the company.
I certainly don't mind calling Mr. Calvo.
Just let me say though that I do think it is a good app; it just needs more
work, and more security.
For version 1.0 it isn't ba
> Hi Denise,
> It doesn't matter if the program says it's in beta. It works well.
> The results are great.
>
> Friendly,
> Chris
>
> On Apr 30, 2011, at 1:47 PM, Caitlyn Furness wrote:
>
>> Denise,
>>
>> Not sure, but you can convert things into epub with pages, if you've got i
>> work.
>>
>
But it's really a pitty that it's only usable with english textes. Hopefully
other languages will follow.
Greets Jürgen
Am 01.05.2011 um 03:47 schrieb David Tanner:
> I would agree, and add that I have seen very few recognition errors on
> anything that I have scanned, and some of the stuff was
Forgive me, yes, I did mean vo+shift+c (letter c key).
Simon
On 1 May 2011, at 00:18, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
> Surely, you meant VO+shift+c? Using the command key with the above results
> in finding previous text with same atributes or something.
>
>
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!
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