Cheree Heppe here: Where are the privacy concerns in this app's development strategy? For my money, blind people who must read printed documents would do as well to obtain volunteer strangers off the street, because that is how private DocuScan's document reading would be by comparison.
In most cases, expensive blindness specific devices and software are not purchased directly by blind consumers because of severe economic suppression of this group. Expensive, new, software and specialized devices trickle down to individual blind consumers through funding by services for the blind or by private or service club expenditures. Others obtain what they require on the resale market. This is at best, slow for the blind consumer and, at its usual outcome, the blind consumer is denied the requested funding assistance. But, for the blindness equipment and software developer, leveraging federal and state funds like they do is kinda like having your very own expense account, as development goes. Don't believe me, just look at Freedom Scientific. To say that the DocuScan Plus app's price isn't that bad in comparison to the bloated pricing of most blindness directed product development would be like saying that the tortures done in the name of the two inquisitions and the Crusades were bad, but our current practice of water boarding prisoners in secret, etc isn't really that bad, by comparison. Why should we have to settle for over priced products that risk our privacy and do half as much, just because we are blind and desperately need a way to read, store and work on the contents of printed documents? I'm talking basic access to reading mail privately and in a timely manner and not even mentioning document processing for competitive and office use. Why not contact those app developers who are keeping costs down and are doing a pretty good job with functionality, and offer them suggestions, ways to make their app fit the actual needs of blind consumers? The very presence of universal accessibility on the Apple platform shouts that we don't have to settle for the usual expense account driven, half done is good enough, oops, we'll fix it later, standard for blindness related equipment and software. If I was unsure about buying the DocuScan Plus app before because of its price, the privacy issue hammered the nail into the coffin. Regards, Cheree Heppe Sent from my iPhone On 29/04/2011, at 10:47 PM, "David Tanner" <david.tanner...@gmail.com> wrote: > Did you also realize that once you purchase it once you can use it on Mac, > Windows, on the website, and eventually on iPhone for what you paid for it > the one time. So, given that it really is a good deal. > > People who think this is high ought to see the price for the LVI Student CCTV > software and digital camera. That comes in at almost $3,000. That makes > DocuScan Plus look very well priced, even if you add the Hover Cam to the > price. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenny Wood" <kc5...@gmail.com> > To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 1:05 PM > Subject: Re: For those who can actually afford this, DocuScan Plus is now on > the mac app store. > > > Oh wow, I didn't realize the updates would be available at no extra cost. > That's certainly something, anyway. When I think about how much money we > have invested in access technology over the years, and the dollars spent for > upgrades to software packages I have already paid a fortune for, it's enough > to make me choke. > > -- > > Jenny Wood > Phone: (972) 989-3894 > Email: kc5...@gmail.com > Facebook/Twitter/Skype: kc5gni > > > > > On Apr 29, 2011, at 12:29 PM, Scott Howell wrote: > >> Funny you say this. How do you determine if the "general" developer will >> develop something "we all" can use. How do you determine if a product would >> meet your needs as well as the sighted community? In other words our needs >> may be different then their needs, which is not unusual. I'm not defending >> the cost etc. just trying to understand. To me if you have a solution that >> works, great and if not, this might just be the product. My understanding is >> you get free upgrades for the life of the product, which is not a bad deal >> either. So, this discussion has a few interesting sides to it. >> On Apr 29, 2011, at 12:20 PM, Cheree wrote: >> >>> Cheree Heppe here: >>> >>> It isn't that blind people typically feel that we have to get free >>> applications, services, etc. >>> >>> It's most likely more about the sub-poberty level conditions most blind >>> people are consigned to live under that governs how most blind people see >>> expenditures of this type. >>> >>> I am admitting to having problems imagining why it costs so much for a >>> blindness friendly application like this. >>> >>> I'm going to wait until that pool of app developers who serve the general >>> public work out a good general app we all can use. >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> Cheree Heppe >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On 29/04/2011, at 9:04 AM, "brandt" <brandt.steenk...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Remember, sighted folks pay for programs they need just like we do, it's >>>> just so typically blind to complain that most do it as a reflex action, >>>> come on! Wake up and smell the roses, we are not alone at paying for >>>> things we need, and after all if you do a job, won't you expect payment >>>> for it? >>>> >>>> Warm regards, >>>> >>>> Brandt Steenkamp >>>> >>>> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune >>>> in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by >>>> going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info >>>> >>>> Contact me: >>>> >>>> Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 >>>> MSN: brandt...@live.com >>>> Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com >>>> Twitter @brandtsteenkamp >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Hernandez" <tonyhspe...@gmail.com> >>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 3:58 PM >>>> Subject: RE: For those who can actually afford this, DocuScan Plus is now >>>> on the mac app store. >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi. >>>> >>>> I think looking at this price in a positive light just because it's lower >>>> is >>>> what keeps the prices high. It's accepted. >>>> >>>> Tony Hernandez >>>> http://dutyofman.net/ >>>> Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep His >>>> commandments, for this is the whole duty of man. For God shall bring every >>>> work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether >>>> it be evil. (Ecclesiastes 12:13-14) >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell >>>> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 5:48 AM >>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: For those who can actually afford this, DocuScan Plus is now >>>> on >>>> the mac app store. >>>> >>>> Be nice if they would toss in the camera for a few dollars more. :) I >>>> gather >>>> with the camera it would be almost $500. I would like to see a demo on the >>>> Mac actually. THis is certainly a better deal than most other products on >>>> the market that are geared toward the blind and visually impaired user. Now >>>> I may also be wrong, but didn't the $299 also give you access to the >>>> web-based product and something on the iOS platform> assuming that becomes >>>> available? >>>> >>>> On Apr 29, 2011, at 2:00 AM, Tony Bernedal wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Kevin >>>>> I made a quick test this morning with my canon lide 100 and it worked. >>>>> Now it is intresting to see if it can make something readable out of >>>>> swedish text. If so I deffently gonna buy this. More simple solution >>>>> than use vuescan, to abbyy, and to textedit wich works well but very >>>>> much work to get a document scanned. >>>>> Regards Tony >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2011/4/29, Kevin Reeves <li...@kevinreeves.net>: >>>>>> Hey folks. SO glad to see this is finally available on the mac. One >>>> question >>>>>> comes to mind as I am not as familiar with this product. Does this only >>>> work >>>>>> with cameras like the hover cam, or can I use it with a cheap Canoscan >>>> 25? >>>>>> Thanks so much. >>>>>> >>>>>> Kevin >>>>>> On Apr 28, 2011, at 11:39 PM, Andy Baracco wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Still cheaper than the other blindness oriented OCR solutions, such as >>>>>>> K1000, Open Book, Eye-Pal, etc. >>>>>>> Andy >>>>>>> >>>>>>> P. S. I wonder if they are considering doing something for the iPhone. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "I'm pretty good at drinkin beer." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Campbell >>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 7:06 PM >>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>> Subject: For those who can actually afford this, DocuScan Plus is now on >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> mac app store. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello Listers. >>>>>>> DocuScan is now mac compatible and can be found on the mac app store. >>>>>>> Don't get too excited though, unless you have $299.00 to burn on it. >>>>>>> Hope this actually benefits someone. >>>>>>> the Infuriated Matt Campbell. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups >>>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> 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