Re: Will this discussion continue? Re: How to Implement Transparent Unbundling

2008-04-04 Thread Bo Peng
> I thought you wanted to allow things to unbundle to arbitrary locations? Or > are you now just allowing them to update from such locations? I can't follow > everything that's happened. If you want the latest progress on this issue: Still the same: 1. I allow arbitrary files to be embedded, 2.

Re: Will this discussion continue? Re: How to Implement Transparent Unbundling

2008-04-04 Thread rgheck
Bo Peng wrote: You mean like when microsoft thought it would be nice to let people send exe files by e-mail and execute them by double clicking? The kind of feature that should not be a problem for anyone... The key point is that 'you do not have to', because the current implementation

Re: Will this discussion continue? Re: How to Implement Transparent Unbundling

2008-04-04 Thread rgheck
Bo Peng wrote: Actually, after all these messages, I have not heard a good summary of what *you (or Richard)* have in mind, a workable solution that avoids the problems I mentioned in the first message, a good solution to allow me to share different files from the same .lyx document. I've out

Re: Another Security Hole

2008-04-04 Thread rgheck
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: "Bo Peng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: My sense from reading this is that there are some more or less terminological disagreements here, some of which are due to different ways you are both thinking of bundling, etc. I'll try to clarify where I see these. Let

Re: [experimental PATCH] using qmake to detect Qt

2008-04-04 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Sat, Apr 05, 2008 at 12:01:01AM +0200, Enrico Forestieri wrote: > On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 08:08:56PM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: > > > I still don't know what the problem is, but maybe > > I think that JMarc is trying to avoid using pkg-config to query > for the Qt configuration. Fair enough.

Re: [experimental PATCH] using qmake to detect Qt

2008-04-04 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Sat, Apr 05, 2008 at 12:08:30AM +0200, Enrico Forestieri wrote: > On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 07:47:26PM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: > > > Well, I am too lazy to check on non-*nix, but if it hasn't the > > 'default' symlink, it's not Qt. > > So the Qt3 cygwin package is not Qt: > > $ echo $QMAKES

Re: [experimental PATCH] using qmake to detect Qt

2008-04-04 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 07:47:26PM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: > Well, I am too lazy to check on non-*nix, but if it hasn't the > 'default' symlink, it's not Qt. So the Qt3 cygwin package is not Qt: $ echo $QMAKESPEC /usr/lib/qt3/mkspecs/cygwin-g++ $ ls -lF /usr/lib/qt3/mkspecs/ total 0 dr-xr-x-

Re: [experimental PATCH] using qmake to detect Qt

2008-04-04 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 08:08:56PM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: > I still don't know what the problem is, but maybe I think that JMarc is trying to avoid using pkg-config to query for the Qt configuration. > qmake -query QT_INSTALL_HEADERS > qmake QMAKE_INCDIR_QT=/some/path > > and maybe >

Re: [experimental PATCH] using qmake to detect Qt

2008-04-04 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 10:14:21PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Enrico Forestieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> Not a separate pre-compiled version, but Qt-X11 does compile on Mac and is > >> used frequently in macports, e.g. > > > > So, the same problem could potentially arise on Ma

Re: Splash screen

2008-04-04 Thread Rex C. Eastbourne
Joost Verburg wrote: Hi, Now we have finished the logo discussion for the website, let's also make a splash screen that fits the new design. What's your opinion about the attached one? Regards, Joost I like it. Rex

Splash screen

2008-04-04 Thread Joost Verburg
Hi, Now we have finished the logo discussion for the website, let's also make a splash screen that fits the new design. What's your opinion about the attached one? Regards, Joost <>

Re: [Cvslog] r24111 - /lyx-devel/trunk/lib/generate_contributions.py

2008-04-04 Thread Joost Verburg
Andre Poenitz wrote: If you want the addresses in both CREDITS and generate_contributions.py to be obfuscated, let me know. That would be the obvious solution. Done. Everything is now obfuscated. There is definitely something wrong with reverting my revert without any discussion. If people

Re: [Cvslog] r24111 - /lyx-devel/trunk/lib/generate_contributions.py

2008-04-04 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 10:04:18PM +0200, Joost Verburg wrote: > Andre Poenitz wrote: >> On Thu, Apr 03, 2008 at 11:06:35PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> - "aalxxxup () laxxxal ! dk", >>> + "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" >> I reverted that. >> There should be no non-obfus

Re: LyX site - left to do?

2008-04-04 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Joost Verburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: >> I like the shadow, but I still prefer the old one. On yours, the >> spacing between the letters is too wide, and I also prefer the old >> to the upright setting. > > All right. The old one is back. Thanks a lot. JMarc

Re: [experimental PATCH] using qmake to detect Qt

2008-04-04 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Enrico Forestieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Not a separate pre-compiled version, but Qt-X11 does compile on Mac and is >> used frequently in macports, e.g. > > So, the same problem could potentially arise on Mac. Or maybe not, > if they simply hack macx-g++. I was naive enough to believe tha

Re: Will this discussion continue? Re: How to Implement Transparent Unbundling

2008-04-04 Thread Bo Peng
On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 2:50 PM, José Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 04 April 2008 20:37:20 Bo Peng wrote: > > I can compile the .lyx file on machine A but not on machine B which > > has that file, but not the session file. > > You know that this is not the usual case. > If you ins

Re: [Cvslog] r24111 - /lyx-devel/trunk/lib/generate_contributions.py

2008-04-04 Thread Joost Verburg
Andre Poenitz wrote: This makes no sense at all. The non-obfuscated mail addresses are already in CREDITS. So they should be changed there, too. OK. I'll add obfuscation to both files. Joost

Re: [Cvslog] r24111 - /lyx-devel/trunk/lib/generate_contributions.py

2008-04-04 Thread Joost Verburg
Andre Poenitz wrote: On Thu, Apr 03, 2008 at 11:06:35PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - "aalxxxup () laxxxal ! dk", + "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" I reverted that. There should be no non-obfuscated mail addresses in the sources. If you want the addresses in both CRE

Re: [Cvslog] r24111 - /lyx-devel/trunk/lib/generate_contributions.py

2008-04-04 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 09:58:59PM +0200, Joost Verburg wrote: > Andre Poenitz wrote: >> On Thu, Apr 03, 2008 at 11:06:35PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> - "aalxxxup () laxxxal ! dk", >>> + "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" >> I reverted that. >> There should be no non-obfus

Re: [Cvslog] r24118 - /lyx-devel/trunk/lib/generate_contributions.py

2008-04-04 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 07:55:03PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Author: joost > Date: Fri Apr 4 21:55:01 2008 > New Revision: 24118 > > URL: http://www.lyx.org/trac/changeset/24118 > Log: > update for e-mail address obfuscation method of new website > > Modified: > lyx-devel/trunk/lib/g

Re: [Cvslog] r24111 - /lyx-devel/trunk/lib/generate_contributions.py

2008-04-04 Thread Pavel Sanda
>>> - "aalxxxup () laxxxal ! dk", >>> + "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" >> I reverted that. >> There should be no non-obfuscated mail addresses in the sources. > > This makes no sense at all. The non-obfuscated mail addresses are already > in CREDITS. the fact that there is a

Re: [Cvslog] r24111 - /lyx-devel/trunk/lib/generate_contributions.py

2008-04-04 Thread Joost Verburg
Andre Poenitz wrote: On Thu, Apr 03, 2008 at 11:06:35PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - "aalxxxup () laxxxal ! dk", + "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" I reverted that. There should be no non-obfuscated mail addresses in the sources. This makes no sense at all. The non-o

Re: Will this discussion continue? Re: How to Implement Transparent Unbundling

2008-04-04 Thread José Matos
On Friday 04 April 2008 20:37:20 Bo Peng wrote: > I can compile the .lyx file on machine A but not on machine B which > has that file, but not the session file. You know that this is not the usual case. If you insist a python script to seed the session file is easy. :-) > Actually, I would suppor

Re: Will this discussion continue? Re: How to Implement Transparent Unbundling

2008-04-04 Thread Bo Peng
> I am proposing that this information should be made local to the machine > where > the file was created. > > Just to illustrate my point I propose that instead of this: > > What is the problem with this approach? I can compile the .lyx file on machine A but not on machine B which has that f

Re: Will this discussion continue? Re: How to Implement Transparent Unbundling

2008-04-04 Thread José Matos
On Friday 04 April 2008 19:49:45 Bo Peng wrote: > I transmit the file content, as well as filename. The filenames serve > some purposes so they are functional. I mean, if there were a problem, > I am not making it worse. > > Bo I am proposing that this information should be made local to the machi

Re: Will this discussion continue? Re: How to Implement Transparent Unbundling

2008-04-04 Thread Bo Peng
On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 1:37 PM, José Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 04 April 2008 15:18:58 Bo Peng wrote: > > Open *any* version of lyx, insert anything like graphics, child > > document, external, browse to /var/log/blah, save you lyx file. You > > will see /var/log/blah in your .

Re: Will this discussion continue? Re: How to Implement Transparent Unbundling

2008-04-04 Thread José Matos
On Friday 04 April 2008 15:18:58 Bo Peng wrote: > Open *any* version of lyx, insert anything like graphics, child > document, external, browse to /var/log/blah, save you lyx file. You > will see /var/log/blah in your .lyx file. If you transmit solely the file it is non-functional, so we are not

Re: LyX site - left to do?

2008-04-04 Thread José Matos
On Friday 04 April 2008 18:46:56 Pavel Sanda wrote: > >> if someone confirms that it works in i.explorer i can file bugz entry > >> for firefox. > > > > It's indeed a Firefox bug. Works fine in Internet Explorer. The same problem persists in Firefox 3 beta 5 but not in konqueror 4.0.3. :-) > repo

Re: Sidebar: Mailing Lists / Forum

2008-04-04 Thread Pavel Sanda
> Pavel on renaming "Visual Tour" as "Screenshots". The LyX-users list is > also available through a web-based forum interface through Nabble (I put > instructions on http://www.lyx.org/test/MailingLists#toc3 ). Although it is you are using nabble forum now, yes? i've seen your first replies on

Re: [experimental PATCH] using qmake to detect Qt

2008-04-04 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 07:28:19PM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: > > OK, there is some code to work around this in autotroll. Here are the > > relevant lines: > > > > # Kludge!! QMake has a very strange behavior. For instance, if you > > # install Qt under your $HOME and run QMake somewhere el

Re: Sidebar: Mailing Lists / Forum

2008-04-04 Thread Joost Verburg
Rex C. Eastbourne wrote: I think it would be useful to have "Mailing Lists" in the sidebar named "Mailing Lists / Forum". This is for the same reason that I agree with Pavel on renaming "Visual Tour" as "Screenshots". The LyX-users list is also available through a web-based forum interface thro

Sidebar: Mailing Lists / Forum

2008-04-04 Thread Rex C. Eastbourne
I think it would be useful to have "Mailing Lists" in the sidebar named "Mailing Lists / Forum". This is for the same reason that I agree with Pavel on renaming "Visual Tour" as "Screenshots". The LyX-users list is also available through a web-based forum interface through Nabble (I put instruc

Re: Migration planning

2008-04-04 Thread Joost Verburg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, if no one objects to calling the group 'Web', I suggest we just go with that. Fine with me. Joost

Re: tex2lyx converts comments to ERT

2008-04-04 Thread Uwe Stöhr
G. Milde schrieb: trying to convert the sciposter.tex example to a lyx file (after creating a basic layout), I realized that all comments were translated to raw latex (ERT). I would prefer it to go to a 'Comment' box. I think there is alredy a bug report, when not create, please create one in

Re: LyX site - left to do?

2008-04-04 Thread Pavel Sanda
> If that helps, it's probably something to do with the lyx skin. no it does not. pavel

Re: [experimental PATCH] using qmake to detect Qt

2008-04-04 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 06:09:27PM +0200, Enrico Forestieri wrote: > On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 03:00:35PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > Enrico Forestieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > I don't want to use the same LDFLAGS used to build Qt, for example, as > > > in this case I would l

Re: LyX site - left to do?

2008-04-04 Thread Pavel Sanda
>> if someone confirms that it works in i.explorer i can file bugz entry >> for firefox. > > It's indeed a Firefox bug. Works fine in Internet Explorer. reported. pavel

Re: LyX site - left to do?

2008-04-04 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 06:05:33PM +0200, Joost Verburg wrote: > Pavel Sanda wrote: >> no. while it important what users think and advice, most important is what >> developers think about it, because its after all their work which is to be >> presented by that logo. >> you say you are not talking a

Migration planning

2008-04-04 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Fri, 4 Apr 2008, Joost Verburg wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've talked to Andrei, Rex etc and from a design point of view, we're ready to go live. So what else is missing before a release? Please let me know if there is still anything that needs to be done before the site can go liv

Re: LyX site - left to do?

2008-04-04 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 05:27:01PM +0200, Joost Verburg wrote: > Pavel Sanda wrote: >> i guess you will have hard time to demonstrate how the current logo >> shows bad design of software. > > It looks like the logo of a small hobby project. It is a small hobby project. >> apart from all reasoning

Re: LyX site - left to do?

2008-04-04 Thread Joost Verburg
Pavel Sanda wrote: if someone confirms that it works in i.explorer i can file bugz entry for firefox. It's indeed a Firefox bug. Works fine in Internet Explorer. Joost

Re: [experimental PATCH] using qmake to detect Qt

2008-04-04 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 02:58:50PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Enrico Forestieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > That will work on cygwin but not on mingw because Windows has > > no support for symlinks. Indeed, there's already something like that > > in autotroll.m4. > > I have indee

Re: LyX site - left to do?

2008-04-04 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Fri, 4 Apr 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: In Opera 9.26 I get back to the where I was... In Firefox it doesn't work ... I have no idea why, shouldn't this be something the browser deals with? on another pages it works (including wikipedia), so i guessed it has something to do with our stuff. I

Re: LyX site - left to do?

2008-04-04 Thread Anders Ekberg
On 2 apr 2008, at 19.09, Rex C. Eastbourne wrote: I think those are good points, Anders. I took out the "Additional Software" link that I put in the sidebar, since it's linked to on the downloads page. As for the Mac-specific changes, maybe you or someone else familiar with Mac aspects can m

Re: [experimental PATCH] using qmake to detect Qt

2008-04-04 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 12:38:10PM -0400, Bennett Helm wrote: > On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Enrico Forestieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > BTW, isn't there a X11 version for the Mac, > > or, would it be possible to build such a version? > > > Not a separate pre-compiled version, but Q

Re: Will this discussion continue? Re: How to Implement Transparent Unbundling

2008-04-04 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 05:16:51PM +0800, John McCabe-Dansted wrote: > On 4/4/08, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Bo Peng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > If the majority of the users keep their files in a subdirectory, my > > > feature is not in the way of anything, right?

Re: [experimental PATCH] using qmake to detect Qt

2008-04-04 Thread Bennett Helm
On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Enrico Forestieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > BTW, isn't there a X11 version for the Mac, > or, would it be possible to build such a version? Not a separate pre-compiled version, but Qt-X11 does compile on Mac and is used frequently in macports, e.g. Bennett

Re: LyX site - left to do?

2008-04-04 Thread Joost Verburg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've talked to Andrei, Rex etc and from a design point of view, we're ready to go live. So what else is missing before a release? Please let me know if there is still anything that needs to be done before the site can go live. Joost

Re: [experimental PATCH] using qmake to detect Qt

2008-04-04 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 06:04:27PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Enrico Forestieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > > This test needs to be done after checking for X, though. > > There is no check for X anymore :) Either the qt version was designed > for X, either it was not... I mean t

Re: Will this discussion continue? Re: How to Implement Transparent Unbundling

2008-04-04 Thread Bo Peng
> > This is my proposal, which can embed any file. The files will be in > > the bundle, and if they are extracted, they can only be extracted to > > the document directory. > > I am OK with that, if 'document directory' means 'a special directory > that only belongs to this document'. Great.

Re: Footer info (Was: LyX site - left to do?)

2008-04-04 Thread Joost Verburg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 4 Apr 2008, Angus Leeming wrote: Can you keep the footer information of the existing site? This stuff: [W3C XHTML] [W3C CSS] At least 8940277 hits on this page. Webmaster: lyx-devel at lists dot lyx dot org Page last updated on 2008-03-29 (year-month-day). I

Re: LyX site - left to do?

2008-04-04 Thread Joost Verburg
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: I like the shadow, but I still prefer the old one. On yours, the spacing between the letters is too wide, and I also prefer the old to the upright setting. All right. The old one is back. Joost

Re: Another Security Hole

2008-04-04 Thread Bo Peng
> No, your local files are in the directory structure and you add this > whole structure to the svn repository. This is exactly where I have problems. Basically, when you create a .lyx file, and if you prepare to use the bundled feature, how do you proceed? Do you create the extra file and direc

Re: Will this discussion continue? Re: How to Implement Transparent Unbundling

2008-04-04 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
"Bo Peng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This is my proposal, which can embed any file. The files will be in > the bundle, and if they are extracted, they can only be extracted to > the document directory. I am OK with that, if 'document directory' means 'a special directory that only belongs to

Re: LyX site - left to do?

2008-04-04 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Joost Verburg wrote: > What do you think about upright block letters with shadow (see site)? Is > that a good compromise between the current logo and a bit more > professional look? I like the shadow, but I still prefer the old one. On yours, the spacing between the letters is too wide, and I als

Re: LyX site - left to do?

2008-04-04 Thread Pavel Sanda
> All new developers start as being a consumer. and the key point is, they continue to be users. pavel

Re: [experimental PATCH] using qmake to detect Qt

2008-04-04 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 03:00:35PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Enrico Forestieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I don't want to use the same LDFLAGS used to build Qt, for example, as > > in this case I would lose the debug info, whether or not I want it. > > OK, so we should ignore Qt

Re: LyX site - left to do?

2008-04-04 Thread Joost Verburg
Pavel Sanda wrote: no. while it important what users think and advice, most important is what developers think about it, because its after all their work which is to be presented by that logo. you say you are not talking about bussiness and on the other hand you propose exactly the model from th

Re: LyX site - left to do?

2008-04-04 Thread Pavel Sanda
>> I prefer the block letters. The serif letters with these colors still >> reminds me too much on Google. > > What do you think about upright block letters with shadow (see site)? Is > that a good compromise between the current logo and a bit more professional > look? you are tough guy :)) my

Re: [experimental PATCH] using qmake to detect Qt

2008-04-04 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Enrico Forestieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > You can augment that snippet as follows: OK, I'll try that. > This test needs to be done after checking for X, though. There is no check for X anymore :) Either the qt version was designed for X, either it was not... Are you sure that we need that

Re: Another Security Hole

2008-04-04 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
"Bo Peng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Let me repeat that I think that a bundled LyX file should be actually >> a directory with files inside, something like > > Whereas I dislike the 'should' word, I am happy that you are the first > one who provide your proposal in a reasonable detail. Ple

Re: LyX site - left to do?

2008-04-04 Thread Pavel Sanda
>> apart from all reasoning there is also good indication from the replies >> that developers simply *like* the logo :) > > The most important thing is what the users think about it, especially new > users. no. while it important what users think and advice, most important is what developers thin

Re: LyX site - left to do?

2008-04-04 Thread Joost Verburg
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: I prefer the block letters. The serif letters with these colors still reminds me too much on Google. What do you think about upright block letters with shadow (see site)? Is that a good compromise between the current logo and a bit more professional look? Joost

Re: [experimental PATCH] using qmake to detect Qt

2008-04-04 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 02:58:50PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Enrico Forestieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > That will work on cygwin but not on mingw because Windows has > > no support for symlinks. Indeed, there's already something like that > > in autotroll.m4. > > I have indee

Re: Will this discussion continue? Re: How to Implement Transparent Unbundling

2008-04-04 Thread Bo Peng
On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Bo Peng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Also about your uneasiness of embedding arbitrary files through > > document->settings. Whatever embedding solution you choice, users can > > embed arbitrary files throu

Re: Will this discussion continue? Re: How to Implement Transparent Unbundling

2008-04-04 Thread Bo Peng
> > But if lyx forbids, or make it very difficult, to make a file that can > > be compiled anywhere, it is lyx' problem. > > You can put the files you want inside the bundle. This is my proposal, which can embed any file. The files will be in the bundle, and if they are extracted, they can only

Re: Alternative header (Was: LyX site - left to do?

2008-04-04 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Ok, I did however put the headers on a single page, for easier comparison: > > http://www.lyx.org/test/wiki/index.php/Test/Header > > I don't think I have an opinion here really... they're .. just > different. :-) I would add to my previous ramblings that the car

Re: LyX site - left to do?

2008-04-04 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Joost Verburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: >> BTW, is the linux logo fitting your definition of professional? > > You mean the Linux mascot? We already have such a mascot with a > cartoon style. I meant that it failed to make the serious people run away :) JMarc

Re: Will this discussion continue? Re: How to Implement Transparent Unbundling

2008-04-04 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
"Bo Peng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Also about your uneasiness of embedding arbitrary files through > document->settings. Whatever embedding solution you choice, users can > embed arbitrary files through InsetGraphics, InsetInclude etc. The files will be embedded only if the embedding code d

Re: LyX site - left to do?

2008-04-04 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Joost Verburg wrote: > The most important thing is what the users think about it, especially > new users. but in the end, the developers will decide. Jürgen

Re: Will this discussion continue? Re: How to Implement Transparent Unbundling

2008-04-04 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
"Bo Peng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Having a LyX file that does not typeset is a not a problem of the same >> magnitude as having a LyX file that creates files at arbitrary places >> on your hard disk. > > But if lyx forbids, or make it very difficult, to make a file that can > be compiled

Re: LyX site - left to do?

2008-04-04 Thread Joost Verburg
Pavel Sanda wrote: i guess you will have hard time to demonstrate how the current logo shows bad design of software. It looks like the logo of a small hobby project. apart from all reasoning there is also good indication from the replies that developers simply *like* the logo :) The most im

Re: LyX site - left to do?

2008-04-04 Thread Pavel Sanda
> In Opera 9.26 I get back to the where I was... > > In Firefox it doesn't work ... I have no idea why, shouldn't this be > something the browser deals with? on another pages it works (including wikipedia), so i guessed it has something to do with our stuff. > I don't _think_ this has much to do

Re: Footer info (Was: LyX site - left to do?)

2008-04-04 Thread Joost Verburg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I create the page Main/GroupFooter and put it there, at least it's something although it doesn't look that great from a layout perspective. I prefer not to have a footer at all. Joost

Footer info (Was: LyX site - left to do?)

2008-04-04 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Fri, 4 Apr 2008, Angus Leeming wrote: Can you keep the footer information of the existing site? This stuff: [W3C XHTML] [W3C CSS] At least 8940277 hits on this page. Webmaster: lyx-devel at lists dot lyx dot org Page last updated on 2008-03-29 (year-month-day). I create the page Main/Group

Re: LyX site - left to do?

2008-04-04 Thread Joost Verburg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The directive '(:title ... :)' _should_ modify the title. However, I suspect that Joost's template doesn't use the correct variables or something. Fixed. Joost

Re: How to add new convertors?

2008-04-04 Thread Pavel Sanda
> the convertor menu has an ADD button. It is never active. Is it a dummy? it will get active once you select some new source and target formats. i agree its bit confusing. pavel

How to add new convertors?

2008-04-04 Thread Hartmut Haase
Hi, the convertor menu has an ADD button. It is never active. Is it a dummy? -- Viele Grüße, Hartmut Hungerhilfe: http://www.thehungersite.com Kampagne gegen den Ausverkauf der Deutschen Bahn: http://www.bahn-fuer-alle.de Das heutige Motto: May the force be with you.

Re: Another Security Hole

2008-04-04 Thread Bo Peng
> > I have agreed we should extract only to the document directory. > > Let me repeat that I think that a bundled LyX file should be actually > a directory with files inside, something like Whereas I dislike the 'should' word, I am happy that you are the first one who provide your proposal in a

Re: LyX site - left to do?

2008-04-04 Thread Pavel Sanda
> I'm not talking about businessmen. but the word "professional" indicate to it. > That is, stable and > well-designed software with proper quality assurance. i guess you will have hard time to demonstrate how the current logo shows bad design of software. apart from all reasoning there is als

Re: LyX site - left to do?

2008-04-04 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Fri, 4 Apr 2008, Joost Verburg wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In practice, I guess this is a matter of making a note of what script you've created, and where it's located. Maintenance is annoying without such information. All my scripts are located in the pmwiki cookbook. The farm's

Re: LyX site - left to do?

2008-04-04 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Fri, 4 Apr 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: On Fri, 4 Apr 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: btw another annoyance with both wiki's is that my browser is not remembering the position on the page i came from. so when i hit the back navigating button i have to seek position where i was on the page before. is t

Re: LyX site - left to do?

2008-04-04 Thread Joost Verburg
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: BTW, is the linux logo fitting your definition of professional? You mean the Linux mascot? We already have such a mascot with a cartoon style. Joost

Re: LyX site - left to do?

2008-04-04 Thread Joost Verburg
Pavel Sanda wrote: your efforts to push away the logo we have now are based on reasons on which i can't agree. nobody is doing on lyx from his profession nor i don't see any ambition to move our target from the current one to professional businessmen. I'm not talking about businessmen. I think

Re: LyX site - left to do?

2008-04-04 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Fri, 4 Apr 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: - the proposed trick with (:title :) doesn't work Eh...? how i change the titke of Roadmap and into News and Roadmap without renaming the whole site? The directive '(:title ... :)' is not for the entire site, it's only for the current wiki page. Does

Re: LyX site - left to do?

2008-04-04 Thread Pavel Sanda
> On Fri, 4 Apr 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: > >> btw another annoyance with both wiki's is that my browser is not >> remembering the position on the page i came from. so when i hit the back >> navigating button i have to seek position where i was on the page before. >> is this fixable? > > Could yo

Re: LyX site - left to do?

2008-04-04 Thread Joost Verburg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In practice, I guess this is a matter of making a note of what script you've created, and where it's located. Maintenance is annoying without such information. All my scripts are located in the pmwiki cookbook. Joost

Re: Will this discussion continue? Re: How to Implement Transparent Unbundling

2008-04-04 Thread Bo Peng
On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 9:28 AM, Bo Peng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Open *any* version of lyx, insert anything like graphics, child > > > document, external, browse to /var/log/blah, save you lyx file. You > > > will see /var/log/blah in your .lyx file. > > > > And? What kind of evil c

Re: LyX site - left to do?

2008-04-04 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Fri, 4 Apr 2008, Joost Verburg wrote: Done. News items are dynamically created based on news.inc. Joost Great! Would you mind writing down somewhere roughly how it's done? I'm using this page (although it's lagging quite a bit by now!) http://www.lyx.org/test/wiki/index.php/Site

Re: LyX site - left to do?

2008-04-04 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Fri, 4 Apr 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: btw another annoyance with both wiki's is that my browser is not remembering the position on the page i came from. so when i hit the back navigating button i have to seek position where i was on the page before. is this fixable? Could you give me a spec

Re: LyX site - left to do?

2008-04-04 Thread Pavel Sanda
> The cartoon letters make the whole thing look unprofessional again. ... > I'm open to suggestions, but please consider something else than a cartoon > style. your efforts to push away the logo we have now are based on reasons on which i can't agree. nobody is doing on lyx from his profession

Re: Will this discussion continue? Re: How to Implement Transparent Unbundling

2008-04-04 Thread Bo Peng
> > Open *any* version of lyx, insert anything like graphics, child > > document, external, browse to /var/log/blah, save you lyx file. You > > will see /var/log/blah in your .lyx file. > > And? What kind of evil can we do from there? Ask Jose. He insisted that I should not save absolute path

Alternative header (Was: LyX site - left to do?

2008-04-04 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Fri, 4 Apr 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: Would like me to set it up through an alternative skin so that people can compare them? thats wasting of your time. Ok, I did however put the headers on a single page, for easier comparison: http://www.lyx.org/test/wiki/index.php/Test/Header I

Re: Will this discussion continue? Re: How to Implement Transparent Unbundling

2008-04-04 Thread Bo Peng
> You mean like when microsoft thought it would be nice to let people > send exe files by e-mail and execute them by double clicking? The kind > of feature that should not be a problem for anyone... The key point is that 'you do not have to', because the current implementation handles that bett

Re: LyX site - left to do?

2008-04-04 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Joost Verburg wrote: > I'm open to suggestions, but please consider something else than a > cartoon style. I think the "cartoon" style is just perfect. Jürgen

Re: Will this discussion continue? Re: How to Implement Transparent Unbundling

2008-04-04 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
"Bo Peng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I do not know such case. Could you, please, give me an example in lyx 1.5 >> where this occurs? > > Open *any* version of lyx, insert anything like graphics, child > document, external, browse to /var/log/blah, save you lyx file. You > will see /var/log/b

Re: Will this discussion continue? Re: How to Implement Transparent Unbundling

2008-04-04 Thread Bo Peng
> I do not know such case. Could you, please, give me an example in lyx 1.5 > where this occurs? Open *any* version of lyx, insert anything like graphics, child document, external, browse to /var/log/blah, save you lyx file. You will see /var/log/blah in your .lyx file. Bo

Re: LyX site - left to do?

2008-04-04 Thread Pavel Sanda
- the proposed trick with (:title :) doesn't work >>> >>> Eh...? >> >> how i change the titke of Roadmap and into News and Roadmap without >> renaming the whole site? > > The directive '(:title ... :)' is not for the entire site, it's only for > the current wiki page. Does that help? ah, n

Re: LyX site - left to do?

2008-04-04 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Fri, 4 Apr 2008, Rex C. Eastbourne wrote: Why is there a H1-header at the top of most pages? No real purpose; that's just what I copied from the old pages on www.lyx.org when I was converting them to wiki format. Oh, good. Then we can just remove as we go along then. /C -- Christian

Re: LyX site - left to do?

2008-04-04 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Fri, 4 Apr 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: - the proposed trick with (:title :) doesn't work Eh...? how i change the titke of Roadmap and into News and Roadmap without renaming the whole site? The directive '(:title ... :)' is not for the entire site, it's only for the current wiki page. Do

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