Re: Tuplets and line break confusion

2021-04-24 Thread Lukas-Fabian Moser
Hi, Am 24.04.21 um 13:01 schrieb Николай Аничков: Hello! I am faced with the problem of displaying some rhythms. For example, the third and seventh measures look different, although they are simply copied. The line break is not displayed at all and furthermore it destroys the league between th

Re: Tuplets up and down at the same musical moment

2019-10-16 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Andrew, > Any clues what greater context could be affecting this? Could it be the same problem as in this thread ? Just a thought. Kieren. Kieren MacMillan, composer (he/him/his) ‣ websi

Re: Tuplets up and down at the same musical moment

2019-10-16 Thread Andrew Bernard
Any clues what greater context could be affecting this? Andrew On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 at 22:18, Andrew Bernard wrote: > Pardon this somewhat strange question. The following MWE showing how to > tweak tuplet brackets up and down at the same musical moment works > perfectly fine (!). But in the con

Re: Tuplets in Metric Modulations

2018-12-21 Thread Saul Tobin
Notice that in my example I included spacer rests in the tuplet. This allow room for the bracket. On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 2:47 PM Ld2020 wrote: > Thank you - this is extremely helpful. > > One issue I am still trying to solve: how to get tuplet brackets to > appear as part of the metronome mark.

Re: Tuplets in Metric Modulations

2018-12-21 Thread Ld2020
Thank you - this is extremely helpful. One issue I am still trying to solve: how to get tuplet brackets to appear as part of the metronome mark. I.E. triplet eighth = eighth (triplet under the tuplet bracket with the 3.) Right now I'm doing: \rhythmMark "" {\tuplet 3/2 {b'8}} {b'8} I get the tu

Re: Tuplets in Metric Modulations

2018-12-20 Thread Saul Tobin
I've attached the snippet I use for metric modulation markings. Hopefully others find it useful. To use it you would write something like: \metricMark { \tuplet 3/2 { r8*2 c8 } } { c16 r16*3 } "Più tranquillo" #108 FYI – there are some issues with spacing if the marking is at a line break. On T

Re: Tuplets in Metric Modulations

2018-12-20 Thread Ben
On 12/20/2018 2:27 PM, Ld2020 wrote: I am notating some rhythms that use metric modulations (a.k.a. tempo modulations). I am indicating that a triplet quarter becomes the new quarter note. What I want is a single quarter note with a triplet mark over it (3 and a bracket, spaced in such a way as

Re: Tuplets curved brackets?

2017-11-14 Thread Jacques Menu Muzhic
Hello David, \single it not the solution, but \temporary…\undo is. Thanks for your help! JM > Le 14 nov. 2017 à 13:42, David Kastrup a écrit : > > Jacques Menu Muzhic writes: > >> Hello Ben, >> >> How can one undo the effect of tupletBracketToSlur to use it on a >> per-tuplet basis? >> Pr

Re: Tuplets curved brackets?

2017-11-14 Thread SoundsFromSound
Andrew Bernard wrote > Hi Ben, > > Would you consider adding this to openlilylib? I am happy to help out with > that if needed. This is too excellent to be lost in the mailing list > archives forever. > > Andrew > > ___ > lilypond-user mailing list >

Re: Tuplets curved brackets?

2017-11-14 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hi Ben, Would you consider adding this to openlilylib? I am happy to help out with that if needed. This is too excellent to be lost in the mailing list archives forever. Andrew ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/m

Re: Tuplets curved brackets?

2017-11-14 Thread David Kastrup
Jacques Menu Muzhic writes: > Hello Ben, > > How can one undo the effect of tupletBracketToSlur to use it on a > per-tuplet basis? > Prefixing it with \once is not a solution I’ve seen. > > Below, I’d like the third triplet to use square brackets again: > > { > a a \tuplet 3/2 { a8 a a } a4 |

Re: Tuplets curved brackets?

2017-11-14 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> How can one undo the effect of tupletBracketToSlur to use it on a > per-tuplet basis? Prefixing it with \once is not a solution I’ve > seen. Try `\single'. Werner ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailma

Re: Tuplets curved brackets?

2017-11-14 Thread Jacques Menu Muzhic
Hello Ben, How can one undo the effect of tupletBracketToSlur to use it on a per-tuplet basis? Prefixing it with \once is not a solution I’ve seen. Below, I’d like the third triplet to use square brackets again: { a a \tuplet 3/2 { a8 a a } a4 | %! \tupletBracketToSlur % HERE OK a a \t

Re: Tuplets curved brackets?

2017-11-14 Thread Jacques Menu Muzhic
Hello Ben, Yes, that’s the solution I was looking for, thanks so much! JM > Le 14 nov. 2017 à 12:25, Ben a écrit : > > On 11/14/2017 5:02 AM, Menu Jacques wrote: >> Hello folks, >> >> MusicXML has the notion of curved tuplets brackets: >> >> > start"/> >> >> Didn’t find anything i

Re: Tuplets curved brackets?

2017-11-14 Thread Ben
On 11/14/2017 5:02 AM, Menu Jacques wrote: Hello folks, MusicXML has the notion of curved tuplets brackets: Didn’t find anything in the doc nor snippets. How can that be achieved with LilyPond? Thanks for your help! JM Hi, Is this what you mean? (see attached) Also, what

RE: Tuplets and cross-staff beams

2017-09-11 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
Samuel, First remove the { } around the \change Staff commands. Mark From: lilypond-user [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org] On Behalf Of Samuel Cederlund Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 5:22 AM To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Tuplets and cross-staff beams

Re: Tuplets and cross-staff beams

2017-09-11 Thread Malte Meyn
Am 11.09.2017 um 14:22 schrieb Samuel Cederlund: Hello all, I have a piece of code that causes lilypond to say Drawing systems...lilypond: ../flower/include/drul-array.hh:35: T& Drul_array::at(Direction) [with T = double]: Assertion `d == 1 || d == -1' failed. the code is as follows:   \tupl

Re: Tuplets and cross-staff beams

2017-09-11 Thread David Kastrup
Samuel Cederlund writes: > Hello all, > I have a piece of code that causes lilypond to say Drawing > systems...lilypond: ../flower/include/drul-array.hh:35: T& > Drul_array::at(Direction) [with T = double]: Assertion `d == 1 || d > == -1' failed. > the code is as follows: >   \tuplet 3/2 4 { >  

Re: tuplets in compound meter

2016-07-27 Thread David Wright
On Wed 27 Jul 2016 at 07:57:29 (+0200), Malte Meyn wrote: > > > Am 26.07.2016 um 20:34 schrieb David Wright: > >>>What I didn't take into account is tuplet's optional argument for the > >>>tuplet spanner duration. > >Can you do this in compound time? What would be the syntax? > > Of course, you

Re: tuplets in compound meter

2016-07-26 Thread Malte Meyn
Am 26.07.2016 um 20:34 schrieb David Wright: >What I didn't take into account is tuplet's optional argument for the >tuplet spanner duration. Can you do this in compound time? What would be the syntax? Of course, you can use scaled and dotted durations like \time 6/8 \tuplet 7/6 2. { … }

Re: tuplets in compound meter

2016-07-26 Thread David Wright
On Mon 25 Jul 2016 at 12:21:21 (+0200), Urs Liska wrote: > Am 25.07.2016 um 12:00 schrieb Malte Meyn: > > Am 25.07.2016 um 11:44 schrieb Andrew Bernard: > >> So they are tuplet 10/9. Can you not simply set the tuplet numbers > >> accordingly? > >> > >> \once \override TupletNumber.text = "" > > > >

Re: tuplets in compound meter

2016-07-25 Thread Urs Liska
Am 25.07.2016 um 12:00 schrieb Malte Meyn: > > > Am 25.07.2016 um 11:44 schrieb Andrew Bernard: >> So they are tuplet 10/9. Can you not simply set the tuplet numbers >> accordingly? >> >> \once \override TupletNumber.text = "" > > I could. But like my solutions with scaled durations, the input >

Re: tuplets in compound meter

2016-07-25 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hi Malte, Does the input have to match the output? Does it have to be ‘real’? I never thought of lilypond that way. I have to do hundreds of these sorts of mods also. Can’t you just write a function and say something like: \tn 5 [And live with the ‘inelegance’?] Andrew On 25/07/2016, 8:00

Re: tuplets in compound meter

2016-07-25 Thread Malte Meyn
Am 25.07.2016 um 11:44 schrieb Andrew Bernard: So they are tuplet 10/9. Can you not simply set the tuplet numbers accordingly? \once \override TupletNumber.text = "" I could. But like my solutions with scaled durations, the input doesn’t really reflect the output. And when you have many of

Re: tuplets in compound meter

2016-07-25 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hi Malte, So they are tuplet 10/9. Can you not simply set the tuplet numbers accordingly? \once \override TupletNumber.text = "" What does Scriabin put for the tuplet number? I have to use this technique extensively for the New Complexity scores I engrave, where it gets a lot weirder than this.

RE: Tuplets spaced unevenly

2015-11-13 Thread Javier Ruiz-Alma
Yes. Perfectly cured now. Javier -Original Message- From: Simon Albrecht [mailto:simon.albre...@mail.de] Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 1:59 AM To: Urs Liska ; lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Tuplets spaced unevenly On 13.11.2015 09:40, Urs Liska wrote: > > Am 13.11.2015 um

Re: Tuplets spaced unevenly

2015-11-13 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 13.11.2015 09:40, Urs Liska wrote: Am 13.11.2015 um 09:11 schrieb Noeck: Hi Javier, this has been solved in some 2.19 version. In 2.19.21 the tuplets are evenly spaced. Can you upgrade? In case you *have* to use 2.18 there's a workaround by restarting a spacing section. I don't have the co

Re: Tuplets spaced unevenly

2015-11-13 Thread Urs Liska
Am 13.11.2015 um 09:11 schrieb Noeck: > Hi Javier, > > this has been solved in some 2.19 version. In 2.19.21 the tuplets are > evenly spaced. Can you upgrade? In case you *have* to use 2.18 there's a workaround by restarting a spacing section. I don't have the command available but you can first

Re: Tuplets spaced unevenly

2015-11-13 Thread Noeck
Hi Javier, this has been solved in some 2.19 version. In 2.19.21 the tuplets are evenly spaced. Can you upgrade? Cheers, Joram ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: tuplets? whats going on...

2015-03-21 Thread tisimst
Egbert, If you are using 2.16.2, the \tuplet command doesn't work. It is new as of 2.18. You'll need to use the \times function instead, which takes the same arguments, but inverted: \tuplet n/m = \times m/n Regards, Abraham Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 21, 2015, at 10:42 PM, eggiebertus [vi

Re: Tuplets and partcombine

2012-12-08 Thread Keith OHara
Daniel Rosen gmail.com> writes: > { \partcombine > { \times 2/3 { f'' f'' f'' } } > { \times 2/3 { bes' bes' bes' } } > } > Gets me this error: > 5:4: warning: No tuplet to end It is a bug LilyPond generates internally a start-bracke

RE: Tuplets

2012-11-25 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
, November 25, 2012 8:00 PM To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Tuplets Mark Stephen Mrotek wrote > Hello: > > > Please refer to the attached. > > > Must the command "\times 2/3" be entered for every tuplet? > > > Thank you for your kind at

Re: Tuplets

2012-11-25 Thread Nick Payne
On 26/11/12 14:47, Mark Stephen Mrotek wrote: Hello: Please refer to the attached. Must the command "\times 2/3" be entered for every tuplet? Not if the tuplets are contiguous: \relative c'' { \set tupletSpannerDuration = #(ly:make-moment 1 4) \times 2/3 { \repeat unfold 48 { c8 }

Re: Tuplets

2012-11-25 Thread SoundsFromSound
Mark Stephen Mrotek wrote > Hello: > > > Please refer to the attached. > > > Must the command "\times 2/3" be entered for every tuplet? > > > Thank you for your kind attention. > > > > Mark Stephen Mrotek > > Tuplets.ly (1K) >

Re: Tuplets in Orthodox Liturgical Music

2012-10-06 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Janek Warchol" To: "The Doctor (Michael D)" Cc: Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 10:08 AM Subject: Re: Tuplets in Orthodox Liturgical Music On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 1:17 AM, The Doctor (Michael D) wrote: I am using the gregorian

Re: Tuplets in Orthodox Liturgical Music

2012-10-06 Thread Joseph Rushton Wakeling
On 10/06/2012 01:17 AM, The Doctor (Michael D) wrote: I am using the gregorian to arrange Eastern Orthodox chant music. I am working on music from the eight tones (which has a lot of 'recitatives') and *would like* to be able to use tuplets to 'group' and indicate notes and thus syllables that s

Re: Tuplets in Orthodox Liturgical Music

2012-10-06 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 1:17 AM, The Doctor (Michael D) wrote: > I am using the gregorian to arrange Eastern Orthodox chant music. I am > working on music from the eight tones (which has a lot of 'recitatives') and > would like to be able to use tuplets to 'group' and indicate notes and thus > syl

Re: Tuplets in Orthodox Liturgical Music

2012-10-05 Thread Zenaan Harkness
Hi, I'm a lilypond newbie, and having difficulty understanding what you're asking. Please reduce your example by getting rid of almost everything, even header/title not necessary etc, so that you provide an example just a bar or two long, so that your problem is easy to see. Cheers Zenaan _

Re: Tuplets across barlines?

2011-07-19 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> In short, LilyPond's time-keeping system is something of a > miracle. Why? Because all of these things (and many others besides) > work *semantically*. Compare this with layers of kludge necessary > to make barline-crossing durations work in Finale or Sibelius. > > FWIW I've always suspected

Re: Tuplets across barlines?

2011-07-19 Thread Trevor Bača
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Kieren MacMillan < kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca> wrote: > Hi Joey, > > > Anyone know if it is possible in lilypond to notation tuplets across a > barline? > > Sure! > > \version "2.15.3" > \relative c' { \times 2/3 { c1 d e } } > > > I'm looking into the more conte

Re: Tuplets across barlines?

2011-07-05 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi, Joey -- On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 4:55 PM, Joey wrote: > Anyone know if it is possible in lilypond to notation tuplets across a > barline? > Sure, it's possible. See "Permitting line breaks within beamed tuplets" at http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/notation/writing-rhythms#tuplets

Re: Tuplets across barlines?

2011-07-05 Thread Francesco Guglie
Yes, it is possible. :) Here's a small example (maybe it is just a bit silly, but it works). \version "2.14.0" \relative c'' { c2. \times 2/3 { c4 b a } c2~ c8 \times 2/3 { c8[ b a] } } Enjoy the discover of LilyPond! ___ lilypond-user mailin

Re: Tuplets across barlines?

2011-07-04 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Joey, > Anyone know if it is possible in lilypond to notation tuplets across a > barline? Sure! \version "2.15.3" \relative c' { \times 2/3 { c1 d e } } > I'm looking into the more contemporary features l > ilypond provides and am trying to find most of the > pitfalls before I dedicate my

Re: Tuplets, one-line staves etc. in lilypond-book

2010-03-26 Thread Karl Hammar
Siska Ádám: ... > However, I still don't know about the tuplets. Is there really no > way to have tuplets in a lilypond-book excerpt? That sounds weird to > me. Anyway, if it can't be solved in a standard way, does anybody have > an idea for a workaround? ... You can make an eps/pdf/png/svg and in

Re: Tuplets, one-line staves etc. in lilypond-book

2010-03-25 Thread Siska Ádám
I found that including music signs without the staff (in other words, having music glyphs freely in the text) is something more solvable from the LaTeX side than the lilypond-book way. However, I still don't know about the tuplets. Is there really no way to have tuplets in a lilypond-book excerp

Re: Tuplets with different note lenghts in bagpipe music

2010-03-13 Thread Marc Hohl
Erden Oguz schrieb: Am 12.03.2010 um 20:36 schrieb Marc Hohl: Erden Oguz schrieb: Hello, due to the real rhythmic expression of tuplets as played in Strathspeys in bagpipe music, I am trying to write down tuplets with different note lengths: \times 2/3 { f16 [e16 c4] } Hell

Re: Tuplets with different note lenghts in bagpipe music

2010-03-12 Thread Marc Hohl
Erden Oguz schrieb: Hello, due to the real rhythmic expression of tuplets as played in Strathspeys in bagpipe music, I am trying to write down tuplets with different note lengths: \times 2/3 { f16 [e16 c4] } Maybe I misunderstand this, but a crotchet has no flag, therefore there is no beam

Re: Tuplets with different note lenghts in bagpipe music

2010-03-12 Thread Tim McNamara
On Mar 12, 2010, at 12:41 PM, Erden Oguz wrote: Hello, due to the real rhythmic expression of tuplets as played in Strathspeys in bagpipe music, I am trying to write down tuplets with different note lengths: \times 2/3 { f16 [e16 c4] } Unfortunately, the last note, the crotchet is not b

Re: tuplets interferring with slurs

2008-04-02 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/4/2, Risto Vääräniemi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > The slur may collide with the tuplet number with following conditions: > -tuplet is beamed > -the slur is on the same side as the tuplet number > -the slur starts or ends at the horizontal position of the tuplet number > (such a tuplet is usu

Re: tuplets interferring with slurs

2008-04-02 Thread Risto Vääräniemi
On 02/04/2008, Valentin Villenave wrote: > Hmm. Interesting. > > Can you have a look at > http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/list?q=tuplet+AND+collision > and check if your bug is not listed? If it is not, provide me with a > minimal report and I'll add it. I had a look at the tracker w

Re: tuplets interferring with slurs

2008-04-02 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/4/2, Risto Vääräniemi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Thanks for the tip, Valentin. I normally use .11, though, and I've > found out that the behaviour is pretty much the same on both with > different quirks. Hmm. Interesting. Can you have a look at http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/list?q=

Re: tuplets interferring with slurs

2008-04-02 Thread Risto Vääräniemi
On 02/04/2008, Valentin Villenave wrote: > I noticed both Matthew and you are using 2.10.33. The default spacing > engine has been greatly improved in 2.11.x series, so you might want > to give it a try. Thanks for the tip, Valentin. I normally use .11, though, and I've found out that the behav

Re: tuplets interferring with slurs

2008-04-02 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/4/2, Risto Vääräniemi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On 02/04/2008, Risto Vääräniemi wrote: > > On 02/04/2008, Matthew wrote: > > > Do slurs and tuplet brackets know about each other? > I made another image of my example but without the ragged-right > setting. Now LP tries to fit the number und

Re: tuplets interferring with slurs

2008-04-02 Thread Risto Vääräniemi
On 02/04/2008, Risto Vääräniemi wrote: > On 02/04/2008, Matthew wrote: > > Do slurs and tuplet brackets know about each other? > > > > The following code produces a not very nice slur on the second tuplet. > > Additionally, it is very sensitive to the TupletNumber Y-offsett > I've had to c

Re: tuplets interferring with slurs

2008-04-02 Thread Risto Vääräniemi
On 02/04/2008, Matthew wrote: > Do slurs and tuplet brackets know about each other? > > The following code produces a not very nice slur on the second tuplet. > Additionally, it is very sensitive to the TupletNumber Y-offsett I've noticed the same thing but in a different context. The slur somet

Re: tuplets without brackets

2008-02-11 Thread Ole Schmidt
\override TupletBracket #'bracket-visibility = ##f HTH ole Am 11.02.2008 um 23:42 schrieb stefanozanobini: Hi, when I write non-typical tuplets (i.e. 2 notes with 8th-duration and 2 notes with 16th-duration) brackets compare automatically. In that case I don't need any bracket

Re: tuplets other than standard 8th into quarter note

2007-12-17 Thread Ole Schmidt
and for saving typing you can use \set tupletSpannerDuration ... (as described in the manual Chapter 6.2.3 Tuplets) % \version "2.10.15" \new Staff { \time 2/4 \relative c'{ \set tupletSpannerDuration = #(ly:make-moment 1 4) \times 4/6 { c16 d e d e f f g a g a

Re: tuplets other than standard 8th into quarter note

2007-12-17 Thread Ole Schmidt
\new Staff { \time 1/4 \relative c' { \times 2/3 { d8 e f } \break %in the time of 2 8th notes 3 8th notes \times 2/5 { d8 e f g a } \break %in the time of 2 8th notes 5 8th notes \times 2/3 { d16[ e f ]} \times 2/3 { d16 e f } \break %in the time of 2 16th no

Re: tuplets other than standard 8th into quarter note

2007-12-17 Thread Mats Bengtsson
It's fairly simple math. For example, a standard triplet with eight notes, you want 3 of the triplet eight notes to have the same duration as 2 normal eight notes, i.e. each note should be 2/3 its normal duration. For the example you mention, you want 3 triplet 16th notes to have the same durat

Re: tuplets

2007-09-26 Thread Eyolf Østrem
> On 9/26/07, Kieren MacMillan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > It's not nearly as slick as "tuplet"... but how about "rhythmic ratios"? > > The phrase sums up almost precisely what it represents, and would be > > (I imagine) VERY easily translated. I think it's good -- only reser

Re: tuplets

2007-09-26 Thread Trevor Bača
On 9/26/07, Kieren MacMillan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello all, > > It's not nearly as slick as "tuplet"... but how about "rhythmic ratios"? > The phrase sums up almost precisely what it represents, and would be > (I imagine) VERY easily translated. > > Just my 2 cents Canadian (which is about

Re: tuplets

2007-09-26 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hello all, It's not nearly as slick as "tuplet"... but how about "rhythmic ratios"? The phrase sums up almost precisely what it represents, and would be (I imagine) VERY easily translated. Just my 2 cents Canadian (which is about the same as 2 cents American nowadays!) Kieren. __

Re: tuplets

2007-09-26 Thread Francisco Vila
2007/9/26, Diosnel Herrnsdorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Doesn't anybody use the term "irregular values/figures"? That's the > general > term I learned waay back (actually, it was "figuras irregulares"). I'd not recommend that term because these note values can, in fact, be perfectly regular,

Re: tuplets

2007-09-26 Thread Diosnel Herrnsdorf
IL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 10:23 Subject: Re: tuplets 2007/9/26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Hi Charlotte, In what context do we actually need to use this generic term? Surely we can avoid it? I'd be happy to try to re-draft the relevant p

Re: tuplets

2007-09-26 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
michał poręba writes: > So what should I do? Ask google, or ask an expert. Make sure you are consistent, then changing it later is easier. Possibly you can discuss on the mailing list for your Polish team [EMAIL PROTECTED], see http://translationproject.org/team/index.html Jan. -- Jan Ni

Re: tuplets

2007-09-26 Thread Till Rettig
Cześć Michał, fajnie, że ktoś chce tłumaczyć LP na język polski, bardzo się cieszę. michał poręba wrote: It seems to be a big problem for all of as. I am wanna-be polish translator and I have to admit that in my mother language people use tuplet, but only those who know Finale. None of encyclope

Re: tuplets (was: GDP for kids :)

2007-09-26 Thread michał poręba
It seems to be a big problem for all of as. I am wanna-be polish translator and I have to admit that in my mother language people use tuplet, but only those who know Finale. None of encyclopedias, none of dictionaries I have mention that word. So what should I do? What should we do? Shell we use th

Re: tuplets (was: GDP for kids :)

2007-09-26 Thread Till Rettig
2007/9/24, Henning Hraban Ramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > As Mark Knoop wrote, (indeed "das") "Tupel" is normally a vector and > as a musical term seems to be as common as "tuplet". > For the German tuplets named Duole, Triole, Quartole, Quintole/Pentole > etc. the neologism would have to be "die Tu

Re: tuplets

2007-09-26 Thread Brett Duncan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've heard/used tuplets since the mid 1980s when I first started learning music. However, I've always understood it to specifically mean 'two in the time of x', probably as a mispronounciation of 'duplets' by confusing it with 'two' (two-plets - I grew up in Norfolk!).

Re: tuplets

2007-09-26 Thread Valentin Villenave
2007/9/26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Hi Charlotte, > In what context do we actually need to use this generic term? Surely we > can avoid it? I'd be happy to try to re-draft the relevant paragraph(s) if > necessary. Can you propose anything else for http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Docu

Re: tuplets

2007-09-26 Thread cm8032
I've heard/used tuplets since the mid 1980s when I first started learning music. However, I've always understood it to specifically mean 'two in the time of x', probably as a mispronounciation of 'duplets' by confusing it with 'two' (two-plets - I grew up in Norfolk!). This specific usage is why I

Re: tuplets

2007-09-25 Thread Carl Sorensen
Damian leGassick mac.com> writes: > > (in england) i've been calling them tuplets at least since the mid > 80's, certainly pre-finale. > Wikipedia calls them tuplets, as well. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuplet Carl ___ lilypond-user maili

Re: tuplets

2007-09-25 Thread Damian leGassick
is discussion had never heard the word tuplet. Jay Message: 2 Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 12:04:01 -0700 From: Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: tuplets To: Eyolf ?strem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, lilypond-user@gnu.org Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/pl

Re: tuplets

2007-09-24 Thread Jay Hamilton
I've 56 years old been in music both student or educator for 47 of them and live in the Northwestern part of the US and until this discussion had never heard the word tuplet. Jay Message: 2 Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 12:04:01 -0700 From: Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re:

Re: tuplets (was: GDP for kids :)

2007-09-24 Thread Francisco Vila
2007/9/24, Valentin Villenave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > In French, no generic term exist; when we translated the documentation > we had to create a rather ugly mathematical word: > since the terms we use are > triolet ==> meaning triplet > quartolet > quintolet > etc... > In Spanish there is a gene

Re: tuplets (was: GDP for kids :)

2007-09-24 Thread fiëé visuëlle
Am 2007-09-24 um 14:24 schrieb Valentin Villenave: In French, no generic term exist; when we translated the documentation we had to create a rather ugly mathematical word: since the terms we use are triolet ==> meaning triplet quartolet quintolet etc... We created the "n-olet" which is a neolog

Re: tuplets

2007-09-24 Thread Graham Percival
Eyolf Østrem wrote: Does this mean that we should consider not using the word? Not that I have anything against Finale (hehe :-), but do we have to copy their strange nomenclature? The question is, I suppose: I've never touched Finale, but I've heard the word "tuplet" many times before. It's

Re: tuplets (was: GDP for kids :)

2007-09-24 Thread Eyolf Østrem
> 2007/9/21, Trevor Bača <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Yeah, I may be spreading unsubstantiated rumours here, but the term > > seems definitely to have shown up first in English (rather than FR or > > DE) and I *think* it actually originated in an early version of the > > Finale user manual (God help us

Re: tuplets (was: GDP for kids :)

2007-09-24 Thread Valentin Villenave
2007/9/24, Henning Hraban Ramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > As Mark Knoop wrote, (indeed "das") "Tupel" is normally a vector and > as a musical term seems to be as common as "tuplet". > For the German tuplets named Duole, Triole, Quartole, Quintole/Pentole > etc. the neologism would have to be "die Tupo

Re: tuplets (was: GDP for kids :)

2007-09-24 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
2007/9/21, Trevor Bača <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > In German the word is "Tupel" vs. "Duole", "Triole", "Pentole" etc. > > I never really heard "Tupel" in musical context, only mathemathically. > > My musical lexicon doesn't know it - but my favourite online > > dictionary doesn't know "tuplet" either

Re: tuplets (was: GDP for kids :)

2007-09-22 Thread Mark Knoop
Valentin Villenave wrote: > 2007/9/22, Trevor Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> The word "tuplet" is certainly used in Coda Music >> Technology's Finale PrintMusic2000 manual, copyrighted >> 1999, to mean "triplets, quintuplets, and so on". (I >> used this before I discovered LP, and still have a

Re: tuplets (was: GDP for kids :)

2007-09-22 Thread Valentin Villenave
2007/9/22, Trevor Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > The word "tuplet" is certainly used in Coda Music > Technology's Finale PrintMusic2000 manual, copyrighted > 1999, to mean "triplets, quintuplets, and so on". (I > used this before I discovered LP, and still have a > copy). Don't know if this was t

RE: tuplets (was: GDP for kids :)

2007-09-22 Thread Trevor Daniels
> > On 9/19/07, fiëé visuëlle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Am 2007-09-17 um 17:00 schrieb Valentin Villenave: > > > > > Trevor: there can be *no* name for such > hideous rhythms... :) > > > We may use "rythmes irrationnels" (one "h", > two "n"s), or > > > "monnayages", but generally speaking t

Re: tuplets (was: GDP for kids :)

2007-09-21 Thread Trevor Bača
On 9/19/07, fiëé visuëlle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am 2007-09-17 um 17:00 schrieb Valentin Villenave: > > > Trevor: there can be *no* name for such hideous rhythms... :) > > We may use "rythmes irrationnels" (one "h", two "n"s), or > > "monnayages", but generally speaking the terms we use for s

Re: tuplets (was: GDP for kids :)

2007-09-19 Thread fiëé visuëlle
Am 2007-09-17 um 17:00 schrieb Valentin Villenave: Trevor: there can be *no* name for such hideous rhythms... :) We may use "rythmes irrationnels" (one "h", two "n"s), or "monnayages", but generally speaking the terms we use for such *things* are so rude I can't consider posting any of them here

Re: tuplets, tremolo and cross staff

2007-07-17 Thread Philippe Raynaud
To Neil Puttock Hello Neil, thank you for your help. But it did not work. Nevertheless, your remark about the fact that a note should not be surrounded by brace has put me on the way to the solution. This solution is strange, and certainly incorrect, but the midi output doesn't make any differ

Re: tuplets, tremolo and cross staff

2007-07-16 Thread Neil Puttock
Hi Phil, It seems I'm not the only one having problems with tremolos. ;-) On 7/16/07, Phil Ragnvald <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: Hello, I am typing Schubert's "Erlkoenig" and I have to combine a tuplet (3 8 notes) with a tremolo and a staff crossing. - \repeat "tremolo" 4. is not recognized as

Re: Tuplets (was Re: Constructive Criticism and a Question)

2006-12-20 Thread Tim Reeves
>And I definitely don't want \times #'(2 . 3) This pseudo-Scheme syntax is >very hard to understand for the beginner, especially the " ' " ! The least >Scheme syntax necessary, the better! I agree! Tim Reeves___ lilypond-user mailing list lily

Re: tuplets brackets

2006-01-05 Thread Gauvain Pocentek
Sent by Mats (wrong list again) : Your example works well with the latest stable version, 2.6.5, maybe it's a bug in your particular version. Actually, the default seems to be that the brackets are not printed when there is a beam of the same lenght as the triplet, so in your example you get exa

Re: tuplets brackets

2006-01-05 Thread Gauvain Pocentek
Same issue than the previous message :) Ludovic Sardain wrote: >Thank you very much. I now use the version 2.7.19, and it works. > >Thanks again > >Ludovic > >2006/1/5, Mats Bengtsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > >>Your example works well with the latest stable version, 2.6.5, >>maybe it's a bug in

Re: tuplets brackets

2006-01-05 Thread Gauvain Pocentek
This message has been sent on the wrong list... (thread on lily-user, not lily-user-fr) Ludovic Sardain wrote: >I send you an example of what I tried. I use lilypond 2.7.8: > >\version "2.7.8" > > > >global = { > > \key f \minor > > \time 4/4 > \set tupletSpannerDuration = #(ly:

Re: tuplets ratios

2006-01-05 Thread Trevor Bača
On 1/5/06, bbarros <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi list, > > How can we put a "complete" tuplet ratio with brackets in a score, > like > |---10:7--| > > not only "10", bur "10:7" with brackets. > I looked in the documentation without success. > > Than

Re: tuplets ratios

2006-01-05 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Please read the manual for version 2.7, in this particular case it should be relevant also to version 2.6. /Mats bbarros wrote: Hi list, How can we put a "complete" tuplet ratio with brackets in a score, like |---10:7--| not only "10", bur "

Re: tuplets brackets

2006-01-05 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Clearly it works in the Regressions test example you refer to, so if you need more help I recommend you to send a (small but complete) example of what you tried yourself, to the mailing list. Also, tell what LilyPond version you use. /Mats Ludovic Sardain wrote: Hello, I'd like to remove

Re: Tuplets

2005-07-02 Thread Craig Brinker
Thanks for the help everyone! On 7/2/05, Fairchild <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As advice is being dished, recognize that LilyPond's error recognition and > error messages are in their infancy. Like a baby, it is quick to squeal, > but often not capable of expressing the source of pain. > > At t

RE: Tuplets

2005-07-02 Thread Fairchild
As advice is being dished, recognize that LilyPond's error recognition and error messages are in their infancy. Like a baby, it is quick to squeal, but often not capable of expressing the source of pain. At times the only effective debugging technique is to comment out code blocks until the error

Re: Tuplets

2005-07-02 Thread VSD
On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 17:08:44 +0200, Craig Brinker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'd appreciate if someone could tell me what I'm doing wrong. I just started to use lilypond and I was trying make triplets. Here is the source I was using: the program's output speaks for itself: there's an unknown

Re: Tuplets

2005-07-02 Thread Thomas Scharkowski
Hi Craig, >\ times should be \times Thomas ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

RE: Tuplets

2005-07-02 Thread Fairchild
You're right. It is simple. Change "\ times" to "\times". Also, I believe the last "}" is not necessary and probably a bad. - Bruce -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig Brinker Sent: Saturday, July 02,

Re: Tuplets!

2003-10-16 Thread Jim Bartram
Thanks, Mats! This is exactly what I was trying to accomplish. -Jim At 10:24 AM 10/16/2003 +0200, Mats Bengtsson wrote: >I just copied some examples of property settings from >http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.0/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/Beaming.html >http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.0/Documentation

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