> > On 9/19/07, fiëé visuëlle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Am 2007-09-17 um 17:00 schrieb Valentin Villenave: > > > > > Trevor: there can be *no* name for such > hideous rhythms... :) > > > We may use "rythmes irrationnels" (one "h", > two "n"s), or > > > "monnayages", but generally speaking the > terms we use for such > > > *things* are so rude I can't consider posting > any of them here... even > > > in French ;) > > :-D > > > > In German the word is "Tupel" vs. "Duole", > "Triole", "Pentole" etc. > > I never really heard "Tupel" in musical > context, only mathemathically. > > My musical lexicon doesn't know it - but my > favourite online > > dictionary doesn't know "tuplet" either. > > Yeah, I may be spreading unsubstantiated rumours > here, but the term > seems definitely to have shown up first in > English (rather than FR or > DE) and I *think* it actually originated in an > early version of the > Finale user manual (God help us). I've never been > able to verify this > last bit, but, if true, it would at least explain > why the word doesn't > seem to exist in any EN dictionaries yet.
The word "tuplet" is certainly used in Coda Music Technology's Finale PrintMusic2000 manual, copyrighted 1999, to mean "triplets, quintuplets, and so on". (I used this before I discovered LP, and still have a copy). Don't know if this was the first occurrence though. > > Henning, is das (?) Tupel the same word that gets > used in math to talk > about ordered collections of stuff like (17, 18, > 29)? EN has "tuple" > for such things ... and "tuplet" (with the final > t) seems to be a > completely novel musical term backformed from > triplet, quadruplet, > quintuplet, [s|h]extuplet, etc. Maybe DE has to > make due with only one > form of the word? Or possibly you guys could > borrow in "Tuplet"? Or > perhaps that simply looks absurd ... > > Trevor Bača > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _______________________________________________ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
