lilypond 2.16.2 soon in Debian?

Speaking about LilyPond on Linux... yesterday I've seen that version 2.16 is still in debian experimental: http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=lilypond The next Debian stable, which is going to be released in a few days, will have 2.14 again. Hopefully 2.16 will be added to backports in the

Re: LilyPond Linux distro?

Hi Ryan, like Frederico mentioned, you don't need more than damn small linux, lilypond and frescobaldi. But one thing, I would like to ask in this context is, what would it mean, to set up a repository - in ubuntu it probably would be a PPA on launchpad - where you can install the current stab

Re: some Musikmesse and MusicXML

On 23 April 2013 02:01, Klaus Föhl wrote: > > Hello, > > As Urs initiated quite some discussion with his 'lobbying' paper, > I shall turn my ballpen-on-paper notes from Frankfurt into Bytes... > ... my comments, clarifications {} ... > > organised by scorio { it took some locals to get that done }

Re: MusicXML

On 23 avr. 2013, at 22:32, Urs Liska wrote: > I think that a Python program might be a good idea: > - I'm sure there is good XML support with Python (don't really know, > though) You're right - it is good. > - We could surely use code or experience from the musicxml2ly project. It'd be mostly

Re: LilyPond Linux distro?

2013/4/24 ryanmichaelmcclure > I have been looking for something like this but have been unable to find > anything...does anyone know if there is a LilyPond distro? That is, one > made > entirely for LilyPond? It would be nce to have a small, portable distro > that > just had LilyPond, a text edi

LilyPond Linux distro?

I have been looking for something like this but have been unable to find anything...does anyone know if there is a LilyPond distro? That is, one made entirely for LilyPond? It would be nce to have a small, portable distro that just had LilyPond, a text editor, and a PDF viewer (or a LilyPond GUI li

Re: MusicXML

On 24 April 2013 05:32, Urs Liska wrote: > As David (and Mike) pointed out not everything is included in the music > stream, so a XSLT conversion won't be completely sufficient (although > probably a good start and way better than the status quo). > > Maybe there would be a way using a (Python?) a

Re: Guile 2 for Lilypond

Thomas Spuhler writes: > The documentation says, lilypond needs at least Guile (1.8.2 or newer) > Can I assume the guile-2.0-6 will now work? At least with the > development version? No. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user

Guile 2 for Lilypond

The documentation says, lilypond needs at least Guile (1.8.2 or newer) Can I assume the guile-2.0-6 will now work? At least with the development version? -- Best regards Thomas Spuhler signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. _

Re: Alignment problem with instrument name

Wim, Thanks. As a newbie I'm a bit surprised that Lilypond doesn't do that automatically. But at least I've got a workaround. Best regards, Peter mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com www.ptoye.com - Tuesday, April 23, 2013, 8:50:04 PM, you wrote: What you need is setting the ind

Re: Setting X-offset and Y-offset graphically.

Hi all, I just felt the need to say a big THANK YOU to everyone involved here - LilyPond is so damn powerful, and my scores always look great when printed. Between Denemo and Frescobaldi both helping me to harness the power of LilyPond, it's just a dream - really. Engraving music prior to using

Re: Alignment problem with instrument name

What you need is setting the indent-values and tune these to what you need/want.'indent' in the paper block is for the first system, 'short-indent' for all others. Notation manual (v.2.16.0) page 485/486.Small compiling example attached.Another option could be to make a column out of "C.A." that de

Re: MusicXML

Am 23.04.2013 21:32, schrieb Urs Liska: > Am Dienstag, den 23.04.2013, 20:45 +0200 schrieb Urs Liska: > Hm, this seems not to be the first time my phone censors my reply > text :-( Thunderbird didn't display it for me either, but in the source code of your previous mail, the following passage was

Re: Extension:Score

Janek Warchoł writes: > Wow! I thought that was abandoned. Great news! > Now let's just fix 2658, release 2.18, tell mediawiki to upgrade and > we can begin replacing all ugly Sibelius-made examples with Lily! 2658 makes rather little difference for PNG generation. They'll probably love us mo

Re: How to get dynamics centred on a piano staff?

2013/4/22 Peter Toye : > > Also, I have to use the << || >> construction a lot because there's a mix of > homophonic and polyphonic writing. I can't work out how to start (say) a > crescendo in the middle of a polyphonic section and terminate it in a > monophonic section, and vice-versa, as LP asso

Re: MusicXML

Am Dienstag, den 23.04.2013, 21:43 +0300 schrieb m...@mikesolomon.org: > On 23 avr. 2013, at 21:21, Christopher R. Maden wrote: > > > I am comfortable with LilyPond, but not quite an expert. > > > > I am an expert in XML and XSLT, and it sounds like it would be of > > benefit to LilyPond to have

Re: MusicXML

Am Dienstag, den 23.04.2013, 20:45 +0200 schrieb Urs Liska: Hm, this seems not to be the first time my phone censors my reply text :-( What I had written is somewhat like: > "Christopher R. Maden" schrieb: > I am comfortable with LilyPond, but not quite an expert. > >

Re: MusicXML

On Apr 23, 2013, at 2:21 PM, "Christopher R. Maden" wrote: > Can someone please summarize (or point me to a summary of) the current > state of MusicXML support, what needs to be done, and the > infrastructure? E.g., is a standalone XSLT conversion acceptable, or > should MusicXML import/export b

Re: MusicXML

"Christopher R. Maden" schrieb: >I am comfortable with LilyPond, but not quite an expert. > >I am an expert in XML and XSLT, and it sounds like it would be of >benefit to LilyPond to have better support for MusicXML (though I don’t >use it myself). > >Can someone please summarize (or point me

Re: MusicXML

On 23 avr. 2013, at 21:21, Christopher R. Maden wrote: > I am comfortable with LilyPond, but not quite an expert. > > I am an expert in XML and XSLT, and it sounds like it would be of > benefit to LilyPond to have better support for MusicXML (though I don’t > use it myself). > > Can someone ple

Re: How to get dynamics centred on a piano staff?

Thanks Urs and all others who pointed out what I'd missed in the documentation. Maybe the heading in the documentation is a bit misleading - in this particular case the dynamic is definitely NOT attached to a note! Best regards, Peter mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com www.ptoye.com --

MusicXML

I am comfortable with LilyPond, but not quite an expert. I am an expert in XML and XSLT, and it sounds like it would be of benefit to LilyPond to have better support for MusicXML (though I don’t use it myself). Can someone please summarize (or point me to a summary of) the current state of MusicX

Question regarding connectArpeggio.

Greetings All, Is it possible, once PianoStaff.connectArpeggios has been set to ##t, to revert this change within an instantiated voice? Any acvice is welcome. Thank you so much. Hwaen Ch'uqi ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http

Re: Extension:Score

Il 23/04/2013 17:49, Klaus Föhl ha scritto: Hello, Just snooping around and discovering that this markup: \relative c' { f d f a d f e d cis a cis e a g f e } now [works on|has been enabled for] mediawiki i.e. en.wikipedia.org Commands like \time or \key seem not to work... Regards, Carlo --

Re: Setting X-offset and Y-offset graphically.

2013/4/23 Richard Shann : > On Tue, 2013-04-23 at 18:23 +0200, Janek Warchoł wrote: >> Hey, i have an idea: what about conbining both approaches? >> - user enters slur editing mode, control points appear. >> - user clicks on first control point >> - holding the mouse button down, he moves the curso

Re: Setting X-offset and Y-offset graphically.

On Tue, 2013-04-23 at 18:23 +0200, Janek Warchoł wrote: > 2013/4/23 Richard Shann : > > On Tue, 2013-04-23 at 17:49 +0200, Janek Warchoł wrote: > >> What about this: ask the user to drag the control points. Then he > >> doesn't have to click precisely on the control point. > > > > ... well, contin

Re: Extension:Score

Wow! I thought that was abandoned. Great news! Now let's just fix 2658, release 2.18, tell mediawiki to upgrade and we can begin replacing all ugly Sibelius-made examples with Lily! Yippie! Janek 2013/4/23 Klaus Föhl : > Hello, > > Just snooping around and discovering that this markup: > \relati

Re: Setting X-offset and Y-offset graphically.

2013/4/23 Richard Shann : > On Tue, 2013-04-23 at 17:49 +0200, Janek Warchoł wrote: >> What about this: ask the user to drag the control points. Then he >> doesn't have to click precisely on the control point. > > ... well, continuing from my email in response to Urs > Denemo does not know where a

Re: Setting X-offset and Y-offset graphically.

On Tue, 2013-04-23 at 17:49 +0200, Janek Warchoł wrote: > 2013/4/23 Richard Shann : > > On Tue, 2013-04-23 at 17:16 +0200, Urs Liska wrote: > >> David Nalesnik schrieb: > >> >I'm a little confused here too. I watched the demo (very cool, BTW!) > >> >and you are starting with a default curve, if I

Re: Setting X-offset and Y-offset graphically.

On Tue, 2013-04-23 at 17:31 +0200, Urs Liska wrote: > Am 23.04.2013 17:25, schrieb Richard Shann: > > On Tue, 2013-04-23 at 17:16 +0200, Urs Liska wrote: > >> > >> > >> David Nalesnik schrieb: > >> > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> > >>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Janek Warchoł > >>> wrote: > >>> >

Re: Setting X-offset and Y-offset graphically.

2013/4/23 Richard Shann : > On Tue, 2013-04-23 at 17:16 +0200, Urs Liska wrote: >> David Nalesnik schrieb: >> >I'm a little confused here too. I watched the demo (very cool, BTW!) >> >and you are starting with a default curve, if I'm not mistaken. > > Well, only if the user clicks accurately on t

Extension:Score

Hello, Just snooping around and discovering that this markup: \relative c' { f d f a d f e d cis a cis e a g f e } now [works on|has been enabled for] mediawiki i.e. en.wikipedia.org Cheers Klaus ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org ht

Re: Setting X-offset and Y-offset graphically.

On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Urs Liska wrote: > Am 23.04.2013 17:37, schrieb David Nalesnik: > [...] > > Right--no guarantees, but you won't face the prospect of the right end > of your tweaked slur becoming detached from its notehead when the spacing > changes. > > Although I'm mostly i

Re: Setting X-offset and Y-offset graphically.

Am 23.04.2013 17:37, schrieb David Nalesnik: On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Urs Liska > wrote: Am 23.04.2013 17:25, schrieb Richard Shann: On Tue, 2013-04-23 at 17:16 +0200, Urs Liska wrote: [...] But of course, setting the control

Re: Setting X-offset and Y-offset graphically.

On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Urs Liska wrote: > Am 23.04.2013 17:25, schrieb Richard Shann: > > On Tue, 2013-04-23 at 17:16 +0200, Urs Liska wrote: > > [...] > But of course, setting the control points directly is really problematic. >>> >> I guess the trouble comes when you change the m

Re: Setting X-offset and Y-offset graphically.

Am 23.04.2013 17:25, schrieb Richard Shann: On Tue, 2013-04-23 at 17:16 +0200, Urs Liska wrote: David Nalesnik schrieb: Hi, On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Janek Warchoł wrote: 2013/4/23 Richard Shann : On Sun, 2013-04-21 at 22:11 +0200, Janek Warchoł wrote: what would be the nicest

Re: Request for feedback on 'lobbying' paper

David Kastrup wrote: > Klaus Föhl writes: >> Cross-referencing to that Frankfurt meeting: one problem described >> to have happened at one point was that midi had turned staccato >> into brief note -rest -brief note. > > Well, that's the fault of the Midi backend. The music stream still has > the

Re: Setting X-offset and Y-offset graphically.

On Tue, 2013-04-23 at 17:16 +0200, Urs Liska wrote: > > > > David Nalesnik schrieb: > > >Hi, > > > > > >On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Janek Warchoł > >wrote: > > > >> 2013/4/23 Richard Shann : > >> > On Sun, 2013-04-21 at 22:11 +0200, Janek Warchoł wrote: > >> >> > what would be the nicest

Re: Setting X-offset and Y-offset graphically.

David Nalesnik schrieb: >Hi, > > >On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Janek Warchoł >wrote: > >> 2013/4/23 Richard Shann : >> > On Sun, 2013-04-21 at 22:11 +0200, Janek Warchoł wrote: >> >> > what would be the nicest syntax using that data? >> >> >> >> \shape by David Nalesnik (it's awesome!) D

Re: Setting X-offset and Y-offset graphically.

Hi, On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Janek Warchoł wrote: > 2013/4/23 Richard Shann : > > On Sun, 2013-04-21 at 22:11 +0200, Janek Warchoł wrote: > >> > what would be the nicest syntax using that data? > >> > >> \shape by David Nalesnik (it's awesome!) Docs are here: > >> > http://www.lilypond.

Re: Request for feedback on 'lobbying' paper

Klaus Föhl writes: > David Kastrup writes: >> Likely at best halfways. For example, no header is contained in the >> hypothetical "music output stream". Things like \transpose don't make >> it into the "music output stream" but rather just its results. >> >> Which may be enough for some workfl

Re: Setting X-offset and Y-offset graphically.

2013/4/23 Richard Shann : > On Sun, 2013-04-21 at 22:11 +0200, Janek Warchoł wrote: >> > what would be the nicest syntax using that data? >> >> \shape by David Nalesnik (it's awesome!) Docs are here: >> http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.17/Documentation/notation/modifying-shapes >> note that \shape s

Re: Request for feedback on 'lobbying' paper

David Kastrup writes: > Likely at best halfways. For example, no header is contained in the > hypothetical "music output stream". Things like \transpose don't make > it into the "music output stream" but rather just its results. > > Which may be enough for some workflows, but not necessary all.

Re: Request for feedback on 'lobbying' paper

Urs Liska writes: > Am Dienstag, den 23.04.2013, 13:45 +0200 schrieb David Kastrup: >> Selling LilyPond with vaporware MusicXML makes only sense if we want >> to >> hook people on LilyPond with the promise that they can take their >> scores >> into other products eventually. > Yes, of course. >

Re: Setting X-offset and Y-offset graphically.

On Sun, 2013-04-21 at 22:11 +0200, Janek Warchoł wrote: > > what would be the nicest syntax using that data? > > \shape by David Nalesnik (it's awesome!) Docs are here: > http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.17/Documentation/notation/modifying-shapes > note that \shape syntax is a bit different in 2.16

Re: Request for feedback on 'lobbying' paper

Am Dienstag, den 23.04.2013, 13:45 +0200 schrieb David Kastrup: > Selling LilyPond with vaporware MusicXML makes only sense if we want > to > hook people on LilyPond with the promise that they can take their > scores > into other products eventually. Yes, of course. > And that promise only makes

Re: some Musikmesse and MusicXML

Am Dienstag, den 23.04.2013, 13:43 + schrieb Klaus Föhl: > Janek Warchoł wrote: > > Many thanks for this report! You made me realize that i didn't > > promote LilyPond actively enough. We have unique features to offer > > and people in the music industry should know about us. > > As the Lily

Re: some Musikmesse and MusicXML

Janek Warchoł wrote: > Many thanks for this report! You made me realize that i didn't > promote LilyPond actively enough. We have unique features to offer > and people in the music industry should know about us. As the Lilypond name was mentioned a few times in that said meeting, my impression w

Re: Request for feedback on 'lobbying' paper

2013/4/23 David Kastrup : > Janek Warchoł writes: > >> 2013/4/23 David Kastrup : >>> But what word are we spreading? "Can it work with our existing >>> scores and data, possibly through MusicXML?" "No, but if it could, >>> it would likely be the best at it." >> >> yeah, that's bad. But it's not

Re: Request for feedback on 'lobbying' paper

Janek Warchoł writes: > 2013/4/23 David Kastrup : >> Janek Warchoł writes: >>> Technically speaking, you are 100% correct. I agree that talking >>> doesn't get the job done, and i understand the frustration when >>> someone reminds you about an issue that you remember very well but >>> don't ha

Re: Request for feedback on 'lobbying' paper

2013/4/23 David Kastrup : > Janek Warchoł writes: >> Technically speaking, you are 100% correct. I agree that talking >> doesn't get the job done, and i understand the frustration when >> someone reminds you about an issue that you remember very well but >> don't have time to tackle. > > It's not

Re: Request for feedback on 'lobbying' paper

Urs Liska writes: > please let me take most of your comment as acknowledged and allow me one > further inquiry: > > Am Montag, den 22.04.2013, 12:30 +0200 schrieb David Kastrup: > >> Reality check. >> > ... > >> So moving LilyPond into a strategic position is more than just >> vigorously agreein

Re: Request for feedback on 'lobbying' paper

Janek Warchoł writes: > 2013/4/22 David Kastrup : > >> Reality check. >> >> _Nobody_ is writing a single line of code related to MusicXML. >> Nobody is trying to see how much work it would be to consolidate some >> of the MusicXML work from the Philomelos guys back into LilyPond >> proper. Nobod

Re: Request for feedback on 'lobbying' paper

Christ van Willegen writes: > On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 12:00 PM, Urs Liska wrote: >> Am Montag, den 22.04.2013, 11:41 +0200 schrieb David Kastrup: >>> Uh, are we still talking about LilyPond? >> Maybe I wasn't clear enough, and maybe this should actually have been >> written in a private email. >

Re: Request for feedback on 'lobbying' paper

2013/4/22 David Kastrup : > Urs Liska writes: > >> Am Montag, den 22.04.2013, 11:41 +0200 schrieb David Kastrup: >>> Urs Liska writes: >>> >>> >> > [...] MusicXML [...] >>> >> >>> >> indeed. >>> >> ;) >>> > I'd actually say it is crucial to have that in order to get LilyPond a >>> > foot in the p

Re: Request for feedback on 'lobbying' paper

Hi, On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 12:00 PM, Urs Liska wrote: > Am Montag, den 22.04.2013, 11:41 +0200 schrieb David Kastrup: >> Uh, are we still talking about LilyPond? > Maybe I wasn't clear enough, and maybe this should actually have been > written in a private email. > I'm not refering to LilyPond's

Re: Request for feedback on 'lobbying' paper

Hi David, please let me take most of your comment as acknowledged and allow me one further inquiry: Am Montag, den 22.04.2013, 12:30 +0200 schrieb David Kastrup: > Urs Liska writes: > > > Am Montag, den 22.04.2013, 11:41 +0200 schrieb David Kastrup: > >> Urs Liska writes: > >> > >> >> > [...]

Re: Finale and Sibelius files

>> To be fair: the LilyPond file will get more verbose too if you use one >> of the Frescobaldi templates. And not using a template is "expert >> usage". > I'm taking the liberty to slightly exaggerate in order to emphasize the > point here. Can't see anything evil in it ;-) IMHO, that's perfectl

Re: Conditionally color all tweaked objects

Urs Liska writes: > Am Montag, den 22.04.2013, 19:03 +0200 schrieb David Kastrup: >> >> You could redefine \tweak but it is probably more reliable to use >> internals: >> >> > So would such a thing be possible, maybe in Scheme? >> > Or if that's not possible in Scheme would that be an interesti

Re: Finale and Sibelius files

Am 23.04.2013 10:09, schrieb David Kastrup: "Phil Holmes" writes: - Original Message - From: "Urs Liska" To: Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 9:09 PM Subject: Finale and Sibelius files could somebody be so kind and send me Finale and/or Sibelius files with the equivalent of this LilyPo

Re: some Musikmesse and MusicXML

Many thanks for this report! You made me realize that i didn't promote LilyPond actively enough. We have unique features to offer and people in the music industry should know about us. cheers, Janek 2013/4/22 Klaus Föhl : > Hello, > > As Urs initiated quite some discussion with his 'lobbying' p

Re: Conditionally color all tweaked objects

Am Montag, den 22.04.2013, 19:03 +0200 schrieb David Kastrup: > Urs Liska writes: > > > Hi, > > > > is it possible somehow to hook into the engraving process and color all > > grobs that have been manually tweaked? > > > > In my library I have a 'draft mode'. All my functions or shorthands that >

Re: Finale and Sibelius files

Am Dienstag, den 23.04.2013, 10:09 +0200 schrieb David Kastrup: > "Phil Holmes" writes: > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Urs Liska" > > To: > > Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 9:09 PM > > Subject: Finale and Sibelius files > > > >> could somebody be so kind and send me Finale and/or

Re: Finale and Sibelius files

"Phil Holmes" writes: > - Original Message - > From: "Urs Liska" > To: > Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 9:09 PM > Subject: Finale and Sibelius files > >> could somebody be so kind and send me Finale and/or Sibelius files with >> the equivalent of >> this LilyPond file: >> >>{ c' } >

Re: Finale and Sibelius files

On 2013-04-23 09:47, Urs Liska wrote: Thank you, basically that's exactly what I need for my presentation ;-) But may I ask you to send me two more/different Finale files with the following content? If you want you can download Finale Notepad for free. It reads/writes finale files. http://w

Re: Finale and Sibelius files

- Original Message - From: "Urs Liska" To: Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 9:09 PM Subject: Finale and Sibelius files Hi, could somebody be so kind and send me Finale and/or Sibelius files with the equivalent of this LilyPond file: { c' } ? Thank you I'll send you something sim

Re: Finale and Sibelius files

Thank you, basically that's exactly what I need for my presentation ;-) But may I ask you to send me two more/different Finale files with the following content? 1) { c'2( d') } 2) { \slurUp c'2( d') } I think that makes a nice example, comparing the two Finale files 'source' and then the LilyPo

Re: nudging hairpins

Tried spacer rests, works (sort of). The decresc. hairpin now begins correct but stands a bit lower than the cresc. hairpin. Making the score to look uneven. How can that be solved? Ursus Op 23-4-2013 0:50, Nathan [via Lilypond] schreef: > << a2. { s4\! s2\> } >> | gis2. | R2.\! > -- View t