directory feature is
actually the corner case for specifying multiple configurations for a
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Network interface configuration used to be either a file or a directory
named ifconfig.. With the latest lsb-compliant bootscripts,
it seems that the bootscript won't accept a file and neither will ifup
unless using -c. Is this intentional?
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> http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/development/appendices/mit.html
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> This license is fine with me.
I have no objections, either. Just wondering why.
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> AFAIK Alexander, Archaic, Bruce, Dan, Jeremy, Matt, Michael Tremmor
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> simply because it was requested so many times in the past, but possibly
> disable the functionality by default?
Disabled by default sound like a good compromise.
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The kernel printk level is initially chosen before the consolelog script
runs, yet that script demands that the choice is also made in
/etc/sysconfig/console else it may override your initial decision. If
someone uses 'quiet' on the kernel cmdline, they've made their choice
and, IMO, should not hav
fig.h
@@ -1357,7 +1357,7 @@
#define HAS_UNAME /**/
/*#define HAS_PHOSTNAME/ **/
#ifdef HAS_PHOSTNAME
-#define PHOSTNAME "/tools/bin/hostname"/* How to get the host name */
+#define PHOSTNAME "/usr/bin/hostname" /* How to get the host name */
On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 09:22:47PM +0300, Agathoklis D. Hatzimanikas wrote:
>
> Actually Tony answered me, that the most
> sane solution is to source mswin.vim which offers a more nice environment.
Was he referring to vim on linux or vim on windows?
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The vimrc that LFS creates is very spartan. There is a default
configuration that isn't bad plus it gives new users a quick idea of how
powerful the rc can be.
cp runtime/vimrc_example.vim /etc/vimrc
The if statement for bg=dark is not included, but could be appended if
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+http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/";>
I was hoping to use &kernel;, but that has /pub/ at the end. Oh well. :)
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However, too many language choices isn't necessarily a good thing.
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intimately familiar with this package?
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on reentrancy. I currently have access only to Arch Linux and FreeBSD,
and the main perl binary in those links to libpthread. I'm curious what
debian-based and redhat-based distros are doing.
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> > PS: Nice to see you back on the lists, Archaic.
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> I agree. Archaic, don't be a stranger.
/me waves at Bruce!
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> # type [
> [ is a shell builtin
>
> # type test
> test is a shell builtin
If this is true for all sh-compatible shell, then I concur. Haven't
tested it, though.
> PS: Nice to see you back on t
The LFS bootscripts use both [ and test, so these should be moved to
/bin. readlink is not used by LFS/BLFS bootscripts, but is moved to
/bin. The FHS does not mention readlink at all, so just wondering if
this is the correct thing.
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I'm running builds on 3 machines. 2 are dual CPU so I'll probably just
use the 3rd box which was used to create all the previous logs.
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> I have clean logs for Ch. 6 gcc, glibc and binutils if you'd like me
> to do this now.
Go right ahead. I've run into difficulties with the build.
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> Please create a ticket for this.
Done. http://wiki.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/ticket/1845
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Subject says it all. I know of three developers that have said it works.
I've been using it since Dan first made the patch. I see this as a must
for the final release. I recall someone saying something about fixingthe
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> instructions?
I just re-rolled my local tarball, but it slows down testers who build
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The udev-config tarball unpacks into the wrong directory.
# tar tf ../sources/udev-config-6.2-pre2.tar.bz2
udev-config-6.2/
udev-config-6.2/25-lfs.rules
<..>
Note the missing "-pre2" from the directory name. This causes the jhalfs
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> I believe that, previously, Archaic was creating these build logs with
> his personal scripts, which up to now has been sufficient.
Not just previously. Still.
> Now, however, we have perhaps a opportunity to
On Wed, May 24, 2006 at 08:35:09PM +0100, TheOldFellow wrote:
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> What I can't understand is why, when the CLFS rules have been working
> for months, that LFS had to reinvent the wheel?
The LFS rules have existed since at least June 15, 2004. They predate the
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email that detailed all the changes currently
made. There's more in my working copy as well. Things like adding more
subsystem rules so a few more devices won't need to be enumerated.
svn://linuxfromscratch.org/LFS/trunk/udev-config
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rules should be confronted, but neither of them should be the base for
the new rules because they both do inefficient things.
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have the ability to have computer monitor's hooked up to them.
I can certainly understand that, but would that require a change to blfs
bootscripts, or just the base bootscripts? Other than architectural
differences in the base scripts, what would need to be changed in blfs?
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packaged it, so what has been done so far is basically Alex's work with
me pitching in a bit. IOW, there is no need to throw the baby out with
the bath water yet.
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pecially since they use cat commands to create the rules
they need.
As for bootscripts, it was always my put forth that CLFS differs in
method, but not final product, so I'm not understanding why the
bootscripts are different, either. Any cluebats would be welcome.
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On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 11:03:49AM -0500, Randy McMurchy wrote:
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> I surely don't see it that way.
Not that yes or no question, the fact that a lot of questions have had
to be asked to write up the deps of various packages to contend for the
differences.
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any editor here use Xfree?
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his unified, same as many others. Please reply to the link above and we
can start the ball rolling. If it becomes a productive thing, I will have
another email ready shortly for the next chunk of device rules to be
scrutinized.
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> That was the point of this thread, Archaic, I said after Ryan and I
> discussed this I would post a response. So let's just forgot the whole
> thing and leave both projects separate.
Jim, you didn't post
his is nothing new nor is it a bad thing
especially in regard to how threads go so off topic on this list.
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On Sun, May 21, 2006 at 10:20:53PM -0700, Jim Gifford wrote:
> Archaic,
>Can you provide a link to that post?
I'll link to every pending lfs-dev item in my inbox. The first one is a
summary with several more links (some of which are already dealt with).
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t with. Some are not ticketed
so I posted a consolidating thread that serves well for notes. I don't
think we can freeze this week.
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On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 06:04:28PM -0500, Randy McMurchy wrote:
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> I suppose this one is just personal preference. I find creating and
> exiting a shell a much cleaner, more elegant solution.
Perhaps, but it doesn't script as easily. ;)
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:) I am inclined to go with 620, but I'll wait for community discussion.
BTW, in many cases a ^l will "unclobber" the screen (like in vim, and
ncurses-based apps).
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> TTYPERM 0600
> needs to be
> TTYPERM 0620
I forgot to mention that 620 is how the book sets up /dev/pts as well.
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've started a new thread that adds much more to think about. And yes,
dumping the script and using the pre-existing tools is the way to go if
we switch to manual creation of these rules.
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;t want to assume.
For a 5th option, we could use (in the case of Alex's drive):
ACTION=="add", ENV{ID_SERIAL}=="5VO1306DM00190", SYMLINK+="cdrom1"
This is true device persistence without the problem of uniqueness
associated with #3 above. However, it suffers from a s
ill be able to see the output of it
when it generates the rules file that the book instructs them to edit.
I'm indifferent on this. I see merit in both ways. However, if there is
ever to be a cooperative udev configuration between the books, we will
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ated for these devices only
once. This generated file is completely customizable, and those device
symlinks will never change. Plus, and new devices added will
automatically be added to the generated file (again, each device is
added only one time). It seems like a win-win.
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> Archaic and all I came around an interesting way to fix the cd-symlink
> issue
Jim, this thread is for discussion of what I posted. There was nothing
about disks in my OP. Please start a new thread so people can
distinguish b
in /etc/udev/rules.d. Why?
For modularity. All rules could be in one file, but then adding more
rules becomes harder (think BLFS instructions to add digital cameras).
> Is the newest udev compatible with older kernels, like 2.6.11.12?
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> KERNEL=="vcs*", GROUP="tty"
Forgot one that isn't matched by the above:
KERNEL=="vcs", GROUP="tty"
# Added
# (clfs) doesn't have
hat, suse
KERNEL=="tty[0-9]*",MODE="620" GROUP="tty"
# Changed from 666 (too lax). Need to ensure this doesn't break anything. A live
# debian box shows 620, but the rules show 666.
# (clfs) NAME="%k" is unneeded
# last_rule - debian, gentoo, redhat, suse
KERNEL=="vcs*", GROUP="tty"
# Changed from 600 to default
# (clfs) NAME="%k" is unneeded and 620 is suse-specific. All others use default.
# last_rule - gentoo, redhat, suse
KERNEL=="console", MODE="600" GROUP="tty"
# Changed from 622
# (clfs) NAME="%k" is unneeded
# last_rule - debian, redhat, suse
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> Agreed. Let's just ditch it. It's going nowhere fast.
And the others (save the latest stable release)?
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time) when you have to retrieve the root of the repo. Look in
LFS/trunk and you will see a file documenting exactly what revision
each tag/branch was removed. It is trivial to grab the revision you
need. Also, the XML is already archived for historical purposes at
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> If you do that it will take me another thousandth of a second to update
> my working copy.
>
> *sigh*
Shall I drop the occasional 60 MB file in there, then? :)
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I can't imagine anyone disagreeing, but just to make sure, I'm wanting
to add the udev-config stuff to the root of the LFS repo just like the
bootscripts are. We currently have no revision control and that is just
a hassle.
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a philosophical POV. The whole user/group thing is still in debate, so I
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new book. The new server has been shipped and it is possible that that
will interfere with release anyway. Until then, we just keep doing test
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contradicted yourself. :) After much thought on Ken's
thread about the "stable" releases, I see no reason to freeze the
kernel, at least within 2.6.16. 2.6.17 will not be added.
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> When building LFS-20060420, I had an error while testing tar in
> chapter6.
Please post on lfs-support. This is an error on your end, not the
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our patches do, either. Why
provide links for some and md5s for others?
> I've never seen a ticket assigned to me to answer questions. After all
> that's why we have the ticket system in place.
Discussion, for the most part, happens here, not in tickets.
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gt; know I haven't done a lot of work in LFS lately, but today since I had
> some free time, I ventured out and looked at the outstanding tickets,
> and this is how I felt after looking at them.
Perhaps you should visit more often. ;) There have been a few udev rules
threads that I'd
the
name of the wiki page, I'd say that all topics covered on the book page
are fair game. If that is the case, I'd place the notest link at or near
the top of the book page. Currently it only holds font info, but it
could include something from the earlier paragraphs causing the link to
b
faces", could you please
> change this to 30-network.rules and verify with your single network card?
Gimme half a day and I can test it on my gateway with 2 NICs. I've got a
build going currently and will test once that is done. Until then, I'll
test a 1 NIC system and repo
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I found it once, but forget where. It was a c file in the kernel. A
#DEFINE, IIRC.
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> Originally I did just want a separate file to be included with the
> book's source. But, after Archaic reminded me that we actually link
> directly to the packages now, it seems like a good idea to inclu
ut PAM is
well-known for it (though granted it is generally user error).
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usb_device", PROGRAM="/bin/sh -c 'X=%k X=$${X#usbdev} B=$${X.*}
D=$${X#*.}; echo bus/usb/$$B/$$D'", NAME="%c"
I put it at the beginning of the USB section.
The new tarball is here:
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static device nodes. When will the next incompatible change happen
in udev?
Of course, if you are volunteering to track the kernel changes in
released books and keep the errata up to date, that would be welcomed.
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meone who knows toolchains to answer
the "should or should not" question, and then I need a way to test (Dan
mentioned coreutils-cvs).
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On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 01:50:58PM -0700, Jim Gifford wrote:
> Here's a simple program to test with archaic.
Thanks Jim. :)
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t fixes it is the patch below? (needed for distros that
> don't want to rev the whole package...)
Alex, was the attached patch the proper fix? And have you heard anymore
about the 3.3 release? There still only exists the pre1 tarball from
February.
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Thanks for the info, Dan. I forgot to ask (and it's OT according to the
subject line), but do you have some advice about testing the new
syscalls, or better yet, does anyone see a need to include the new
syscalls?
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it. I'd like to stay away from gui apps if at all possible because it
would take quite some time to get to the actual testing stage.
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On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 08:01:28PM -0400, Jeremy Huntwork wrote:
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> OK, here's a second go at it:
Looks good. I see one thing, though:
"The most likely reason is that something went wrong with the specs file
amendment above."
s/above// because it isn't relevant on t
S installation can establish sanity and stability. We would need huge
compile farms to try and reach any level of confidence if the base
system kept changing.
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> and (b) try out test (-rc) kernels [ because they do need testing ] if
> they are prepared to do the necessary background reading to follow
> what is going on, and prepared to handle reporting bugs on lkml.
I disagree. It isn't the readers responsibility to test
On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 06:37:39PM -0600, Archaic wrote:
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> This issue was fixed around 3.1.10. If the patches were created properly
> by us and applied properly by you, then this should not happen. I'll
> look into it. Thanks for the report.
Hrmm, the patch is right, and
ted properly
by us and applied properly by you, then this should not happen. I'll
look into it. Thanks for the report.
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On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 06:15:50PM -0400, Chris Staub wrote:
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> I'm guessing you mean Automake, not Autoconf.
Yes, hasty in my typing. :)
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