KR>gear legs

2021-08-15 Thread Flesner
As to our discussion on gear legs, does anyone have info on this nice looking KR in Poland? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8wpv9H_sBw Larry Flesner -Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html -Change list delivery options at htt

KR>gear legs, plans, KR Forum, etc....

2021-07-30 Thread Mark Langford
This effort to source gear legs fits right in with the main topic of this year's OSH KR Forum, which is the inability to source KR specific parts. The question of where to get certain KR parts (not to mention plans) is a recurring theme, and it's becoming clear that most of these are no longe

Re: KR> Gear legs - G loading

2018-06-26 Thread Rllanning via KRnet
Thanks I think he just wants something he run through the copy machine or fax maybe not sure But the one in the plans will have to do. Sent from my iPad > On Jun 26, 2018, at 5:46 AM, Mark Langford via KRnet > wrote: > > Rick Lanning wrote: > > > My FSDO is coming July 3 to my airworthiness

Re: KR> Gear legs - G loading

2018-06-26 Thread Mark Langford via KRnet
Rick Lanning wrote: > My FSDO is coming July 3 to my airworthiness certificate he wants a 3 D drawing what did you use for that the one broke apart in the book? I hope that is good for Him. If I understand what you mean, I would bet money the guy will pass you without a 3D drawing, but the o

Re: KR> Gear legs - G loading

2018-06-25 Thread Flesner via KRnet
On 6/25/2018 3:10 PM, Rllanning via KRnet wrote: My FSDO is coming July 3 to my airworthiness certificate he wants a 3 D drawing what did you use for that the one broke apart in the book? I hope that is good for Him.

Re: KR> Gear legs - G loading

2018-06-25 Thread Daniel Heath via KRnet
via KRnet Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 4:10 PM To: KRnet Cc: Rllanning Subject: Re: KR> Gear legs - G loading Mark My FSDO is coming July 3 to my airworthiness certificate he wants a 3 D drawing what did you use for that the one broke apart in the book? I hope that is good for Him. Sent from

Re: KR> Gear legs - G loading

2018-06-25 Thread Rllanning via KRnet
Mark My FSDO is coming July 3 to my airworthiness certificate he wants a 3 D drawing what did you use for that the one broke apart in the book? I hope that is good for Him. Sent from my iPad > On Jun 14, 2018, at 3:18 AM, Mark Langford via KRnet > wrote: > > > That's the first I've heard of

Re: KR> Gear legs

2018-06-17 Thread brian.kraut--- via KRnet
To add a bit more to what Larry recommends on lengthening the legs, I don't know if Steve will sell longer legs, but I would expect to pay a hefty premium for them. I spoke to Dan Diehl years ago and he told me that he buys the scotchply sheets in 4' X 8' pieces so they are cut down to get 24" bla

Re: KR> Gear legs - G loading

2018-06-14 Thread Chris Gardiner via KRnet
Mark, The old literature I have from Diehl Aero-Nautical on the KR 2 Landing Gear states “gear has been tested to 5Gs” . I also have had a few bad “drop in “ landings that tested the gear to that extent and it has never cracked or failed. Cheers Chris Gardiner Sent from my iPad > On Jun 14, 20

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2018-06-14 Thread Joe Wallace via KRnet
Thanks Steve, for the clarifications…. jw > On Jun 13, 2018, at 17:20, Steve G. via KRnet wrote: > > For the sake of accurate info in the archives, here is the deal. > > The conventional cut gear was the first and only type produced by Dan. > Initially they told people they were reversible (w

Re: KR> Gear legs

2018-06-14 Thread Christopher Pryce via KRnet
Straight edge is conventional Double edge is tricycle They are both the current style On Thu, Jun 14, 2018, 18:36 mark jones via KRnet wrote: > Someone clear this up. There are two types of Diehl legs out there. One > has a straight edge the entire length on one side and the other style has > a

Re: KR> Gear legs - G loading

2018-06-14 Thread Steve G. via KRnet
nV Aero is the conventional leg. I may be pulling the plug on the website soon. Steve Glover -Original Message- From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-boun...@list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of Mark Langford via KRnet Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2018 12:19 AM To: KRnet Cc: m...@n56ml.com Subject: Re: KR

Re: KR> Gear legs

2018-06-14 Thread mark jones via KRnet
Someone clear this up. There are two types of Diehl legs out there. One has a straight edge the entire length on one side and the other style has an angle on both edges. Which is the current style and which should be used on which gear configuration. Mark Jones Oldsmar, Fl www.flykr2s.com flyk

Re: KR> Gear legs - G loading

2018-06-14 Thread Mark Langford via KRnet
That's the first I've heard of issues with the nose dropping abruptly on the tri-gear versions, so it looks like a bit more investigation is in order. I've seen drawings in the aircraft design books regarding recommended gear angles with respect to CG for both conventional and tri-gear installat

Re: KR> Gear legs

2018-06-13 Thread John Bouyea via KRnet
be out there." This is one of those valuable postings. Thanks Steve. John Bouyea N5391M/ KR2 OR81/ Hillsboro, OR -Original Message----- Subject: Re: KR> Gear legs For the sake of accurate info in the archives, here is the deal. ... Steve Glover

Re: KR> Gear legs

2018-06-13 Thread Ppaulvsk via KRnet
Thank you Steve.  Good to hear from you. It's been awhile.☺ Paul ViskBelleville Il.618-406-4705 Original message From: Tony King via KRnet Date: 6/13/18 5:29 PM (GMT-06:00) To: KRnet Cc: Tony King Subject: Re: KR> Gear legs Good info Steve.  Thanks for clearing

Re: KR> Gear legs

2018-06-13 Thread Jeff Scott via KRnet
Steve,   Thanks for putting the history of this question into context.   -Jeff Scott -  Cc: "Steve G." Subject: Re: KR> Gear legs For the sake of accurate info in the archives, here is the deal. The conventional cut gear was the first and only

Re: KR> Gear legs

2018-06-13 Thread Tony King via KRnet
Good info Steve. Thanks for clearing that up. On Thu, 14 Jun 2018 at 08:26, Steve G. via KRnet wrote: > For the sake of accurate info in the archives, here is the deal. > > The conventional cut gear was the first and only type produced by Dan. > Initially they told people they were reversible (

Re: KR> Gear legs

2018-06-13 Thread Steve G. via KRnet
For the sake of accurate info in the archives, here is the deal. The conventional cut gear was the first and only type produced by Dan. Initially they told people they were reversible (which is probably what Larry was thinking). The trigear type cut didn’t come about until about 1991. There ha

Re: KR> Gear legs

2018-06-13 Thread Flesner via KRnet
On 6/13/2018 8:19 AM, Rob Schmitt wrote: My empty weight at 1st flight was 600 pounds. +++ Rob, Thanks for the reply.  Our KR's are like people, we tend to get heavier with age. :-) Larry Flesner __

Re: KR> Gear legs

2018-06-13 Thread Rob Schmitt via KRnet
. Thanks, Rob Schmitt N1852Z -Original Message- From: KRnet On Behalf Of Flesner via KRnet Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2018 7:43 AM To: krnet@list.krnet.org Cc: Flesner Subject: Re: KR> Gear legs On 6/12/2018 7:50 PM, mark jones via KRnet wrote: > The manual I have has no date on

Re: KR> Gear legs

2018-06-13 Thread Flesner via KRnet
On 6/12/2018 7:50 PM, mark jones via KRnet wrote: The manual I have has no date on it but the gear kit it came with was bought mid 90’s. It states “for tail dragged mount leg on front of spar angled forward and for tri-gear mount leg on rear of spar angled rearward”. +

Re: KR> Gear Legs

2018-06-12 Thread Steve G. via KRnet
c69fb81.ba996.b...@mx.google.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > I'll see if I can make it out there this month on the way back from? Carthage? > > > Paul ViskBelleville Il.618-406-4705 > Original message From: Ken Hurley via KRnet >

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2018-06-12 Thread Sid Wood via KRnet
ground procedures! Up in the air this month,, is my goal! Thanks Ken Hurley kenhurle...@gmail.com ___ Search the KRnet Archives at https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org

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2018-06-12 Thread mark jones via KRnet
Also, interestingly the instructions mention this is rated for 3G. Mark Jones Oldsmar, Fl www.flykr2s.com flyk...@gmail.com Sent from my iPhone 7 > On Jun 12, 2018, at 8:50 PM, mark jones via KRnet > wrote: > > The manual I have has no date on it but the gear kit it came with was bought > m

KR> Gear legs

2018-06-12 Thread mark jones via KRnet
The manual I have has no date on it but the gear kit it came with was bought mid 90’s. It states “for tail dragged mount leg on front of spar angled forward and for tri-gear mount leg on rear of spar angled rearward”. The drawing Larry made is representative of the one in the manual. Now here i

Re: KR> Gear legs

2018-06-11 Thread donald january via KRnet
I sold the Diehl gear off myKR2 (1985 built)and I remember it was the same shape as the earlier drawing in resent post. I kick myself in the a$$ because I do believe they would work on my Taylor-monoplane. If I'm right you get your CG on the airfoil first then set your gear angle to the wanted tail

Re: KR> Gear legs

2018-06-11 Thread Jeff Scott via KRnet
I purchased my gear legs from Diehl 20+ years ago and they had one straight edge the entire length of the leg.  They look to be the same as NVaero is selling now.  Unless Dan changed the design before I hooked up with the KR community some 28 years ago I have no idea about the set from the donor K

Re: KR> Gear legs

2018-06-11 Thread Flesner via KRnet
On 6/11/2018 6:11 PM, Christopher Pryce via KRnet wrote: My first set came from a donor KR2 I purchased in Mississippi. It was a tri gear and I was planning on using the gear legs for my conventional setup. After I purchased it, I found out that the legs were cut with angles on both sides. I w

Re: KR> Gear legs

2018-06-11 Thread Christopher Pryce via KRnet
My first set came from a donor KR2 I purchased in Mississippi. It was a tri gear and I was planning on using the gear legs for my conventional setup. After I purchased it, I found out that the legs were cut with angles on both sides. I was expecting them to have a straight edge on one side. I c

Re: KR> Gear legs

2018-06-11 Thread Flesner via KRnet
On 6/11/2018 1:32 PM, Christopher Pryce via KRnet wrote: I have physically held both of them in my hand and there is a difference. +++ Chris, Do you recall the brand / supplier for each of the sets and what the difference was?  M

Re: KR> Gear Legs

2018-06-11 Thread Flesner via KRnet
On 6/11/2018 11:43 AM, Sid Wood via KRnet wrote: I originally put the tail wheel version gear legs on my tri-gear KR-2; I could not get into the plane without dumping on its butt. + Sid, As I

Re: KR> Gear legs

2018-06-11 Thread Jeff Scott via KRnet
at 1:32 PM From: "Christopher Pryce via KRnet" To: KRnet Cc: "Christopher Pryce" Subject: Re: KR> Gear legs I am not disputing that purpose built conventional gear can be used for tricycle gear. I am just stating the fact that there are two types of purpose built main

Re: KR> Gear legs

2018-06-11 Thread Christopher Pryce via KRnet
I am not disputing that purpose built conventional gear can be used for tricycle gear. I am just stating the fact that there are two types of purpose built main gear for the two types. This is not an opinion, it is a fact. I have physically held both of them in my hand and there is a difference.

Re: KR> Gear legs

2018-06-11 Thread Larry via KRnet
I reversed a set many years ago as per Diehl instructions to convert a taildragger into a nose dragger. I had to take mounting brackets off of the front side of the spars put the brackets on opposite sides of the fuselage and then mount them on the back/aft side of the front spars. The most seve

Re: KR> Gear Legs

2018-06-11 Thread Sid Wood via KRnet
For a Tri-gear KR-2, the main wheel axles need to be 20 inches behind the the aft face of the main spar for the aircraft to balance with people onboard. Otherwise it it will fall on its butt. I originally put the tail wheel version gear legs on my tri-gear KR-2; I could not get into the plane

Re: KR> Gear legs

2018-06-11 Thread mark jones via KRnet
I reversed mine on my first KR. They were ordered as conventional and I installed as tri gear. Worked great for me. I have the original instructions and will look when I get home. Mark Jones Oldsmar, Fl www.flykr2s.com flyk...@gmail.com Sent from my iPhone 7 > On Jun 11, 2018, at 9:04 AM, Fle

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2018-06-11 Thread Flesner via KRnet
NVAero list a set of Diehl gear on their web page at http://www.nvaero.com/products/Diehl-Main-Landing-Gear-Assembly.html for tail wheel setup. The photo for trigear shows the same gear leg and bracket and the shape of the leg is similar to the little drawing I posted. http://www.nvaero.

Re: KR> Gear legs

2018-06-10 Thread Christopher Pryce via KRnet
Last I checked Steve Glover at NvAero still sells them. On Mon, Jun 11, 2018, 07:12 Jeff Scott via KRnet wrote: > > Was there info on who the supplier is/was on the gear leg that is > different than the Diehl design? Is there any supplier now selling gear > legs? > > Larry Flesner > > > > Fletc

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2018-06-10 Thread Jeff Scott via KRnet
Was there info on who the supplier is/was on the gear leg that is different than the Diehl design?  Is there any supplier now selling gear legs? Larry Flesner   FletchAir in Comfort, TX was selling fiberglass Grumman gear legs that many people bought to use for their KRs.  -Jeff Scott __

Re: KR> Gear legs

2018-06-10 Thread Flesner via KRnet
On 6/10/2018 8:16 PM, Christopher Pryce via KRnet wrote: I found the conversations we had about this in 2014 confirming that there are two different types of Main gear legs now. + Was there info on who the supplier is/wa

Re: KR> Gear legs

2018-06-10 Thread Flesner via KRnet
On 6/10/2018 8:33 PM, Flesner via KRnet wrote: The drawing below is not accurate but is as I remember the leg from 14 years ago. + The little drawing didn't come through.  With luck you can see it at https://www.dropbox.com/s/

Re: KR> Gear legs

2018-06-10 Thread Flesner via KRnet
On 6/10/2018 8:03 PM, Christopher Pryce via KRnet wrote: I was told there was a difference between conventional and tricycle gear The drawing below is not accurate but is as I remember the leg from 14 years ago.  The short angled e

Re: KR> Gear legs

2018-06-10 Thread Christopher Pryce via KRnet
Follow up: If you search the archives I found the conversations we had about this in 2014 confirming that there are two different types of Main gear legs now. ___ Search the KRnet Archives at https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. Please see

Re: KR> Gear legs

2018-06-10 Thread Christopher Pryce via KRnet
I will say that I bought a donor project that had tricycle gear and the legs had angles on both sides. After confirming with nvaero, I was told there was a difference between conventional and tricycle gear. The conventional gear I ordered only has an angle cut onto one side of the gear legs. Mayb

Re: KR> Gear legs

2018-06-10 Thread mark jones via KRnet
Larry I am pretty sure you are correct. I am out of town till Wednesday and when I get home I will check the instructions and see if our memories are good. Mark Jones Oldsmar, Fl www.flykr2s.com flyk...@gmail.com Sent from my iPhone 7 > On Jun 10, 2018, at 8:20 PM, Flesner via KRnet wrote: >

Re: KR> Gear legs

2018-06-10 Thread Flesner via KRnet
I turned the gear around and have flown as a taildragger for 1200 hours now Every time this subject comes up I keep thinking the original Diehl instructions for the gear said they were reversible.  Put them on the f

Re: KR> Gear legs

2018-06-10 Thread Mark Wegmet via KRnet
I’m just an engineer, it’s about geometry… just do the math. JMHO Mark W. N952MW From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-boun...@list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Scott via KRnet Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 3:39 PM To: krnet@list.krnet.org Cc: Jeff Scott Subject: Re: KR> Gear legs Man, I keep read

KR> Gear legs for sale.

2018-06-10 Thread mark jones via KRnet
If anyone is interested, I have a brand new set of Diehl main gear legs with spar brackets and axle brackets. Nothing has been done to them as far as mounting holes being drilled and the brake line has not been installed yet. I am using a set of Grove gear as my mains. If interested email me dir

Re: KR> Gear legs

2018-06-10 Thread Jeff Scott via KRnet
is that I just remounted the gear brackets to the other side of the spar without redrilling anything and moved on with building the rest of the plane.   -Jeff Scott Cherokee Village, AR   Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 at 1:11 PM From: "Sid Wood via KRnet" To: krnet@list.krnet.org Cc

Re: KR> Gear legs

2018-06-10 Thread Sid Wood via KRnet
I have the template I used for my KR-2 Tri-gear using the Grumman blanks. The template is for the aft facing gear legs. Tri-gear and tail dragger legs are not interchangeable. The Grumman blanks are 1-inch thick; you will need to plane them down to 3/4-inch thick. A bench mounted power planer

Re: KR> Gear legs

2018-06-09 Thread Ppaulvsk via KRnet
0) To: '''KRnet''' Cc: pi...@mymts.net Subject: KR> Gear legs I am wondering if anyone has a template or dimensions that I should cut the Grumman gear legs down to for my Kr2. The original weight of C-GSJS was just over 400 lbs. I don't want to make these ne

KR> Gear legs

2018-06-09 Thread Robert Russell via KRnet
I am wondering if anyone has a template or dimensions that I should cut the Grumman gear legs down to for my Kr2. The original weight of C-GSJS was just over 400 lbs. I don't want to make these new legs ( removed the original retracts) too stiff but sure don't want them to fail. I will also be a

KR> Gear Legs

2014-12-17 Thread Jeff Scott
Dan Diehl sold his KR molds and tooling to Steve at NVAero. So until Steve decides whether he plans to sell parts again, sell the rights to sell many of the parts, or someone else decides to sell "like" parts, that's where we are. The parts aren't readily available. -Jeff Scott Los Alamos, NM

KR> Gear Legs

2014-12-16 Thread Mike T
So does this discussion about unavailability mean that Diehl won't sell their products directly to builders (or have they stopped making their products altogether?) On Dec 16, 2014 12:49 PM, "Rodger via KRnet" wrote: > By chance, does anyone have a set of Diehl brackets for sale? > > Thanks, > >

KR> Gear Legs

2014-12-16 Thread Rodger
By chance, does anyone have a set of Diehl brackets for sale? Thanks, Rodger

KR> Gear Legs

2014-12-16 Thread John Bouyea
n5391m/newlgear/index.htm John Bouyea N5391M/ KR2 OR81/ Hillsboro, OR -Original Message- Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 9:08 PM Subject: Re: KR> Gear Legs This thread started as a request for the dimensions for the Diehl legs. ... BUT I have no idea because I don't know the dimens

KR> Gear Legs

2014-12-15 Thread Pete and Karen Gauthier
This thread started as a request for the dimensions for the Diehl legs. The Rand Robinson Engineering legs being replaced are 7075 aluminum, very similar to the one Steve just described and the mount/bracket is cast aluminum (very stout cast aluminum). The legs angle out at 22 deg. (not much

KR> gear legs

2014-12-15 Thread Tony King
It's pretty simple. From memory I paid about 35 bucks plus delivery for a pair of Grumman gear legs. If I'd found Deihl legs for a similar price I'd have been happy to use them. Also not sure where to get Deihl gear from these days. TK Sent from my iPhone > On 14 Dec 2014, at 9:23 pm, Dan He

KR> Gear Legs

2014-12-14 Thread STEVE
Gear Legs: We made a set of aluminum gear legs for Steve Glover (NVAERO) before he called it quits. They are made from 2024t351 x .750" T. They were cut the same tapered shape I assume that the Diehl Legs are. I don't know if he ever got a chance to try them out. I think they are less tha

KR> gear legs

2014-12-14 Thread Kenneth Wiltrout
Dan I built 6399U (KR2S) with the Diehl landing gear and have had no issues after 13 years of flying. I was so impressed with how stiff they were that I did not wrap them in fiberglass, I installed them as I received them. No problems so far.I have had several hard landings over the years with n

KR> Gear legs

2014-12-14 Thread r.macdonald at clear.net.nz
Hi guys, have a look at a product called Pultrusion it is continuous glass fibres pulled through a die with resin added, comes in all shapes & sizes used for anything from fishing rods to replace structural steel to trailer springs. All it needs is someone to do a bit of investigation. I can ge

KR> gear legs

2014-12-14 Thread Dan Heath
I am really curious about the reason for these posts. Why are not the Diehl legs the best for the KR? I am sure I must have missed something along the way. Or, is it just the overwhelming desire of KR builders to do it differently? See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org -

KR> Gear legs

2014-12-13 Thread laser147 at juno.com
Just for another data point on this subject, Ken Cottle put Sonari gear on his (mine now) KR 1?. He bought the gear through Steve at Great Plains Aircraft. They've worked fine for about 1300 hours now. I'm not sure but I think Grove makes the Sonari gear. Mike KSEE __

KR> gear legs

2014-10-11 Thread Flesner
Recent discussion on gear legs using Yankee gear. I measured my Diehl legs (30 inches long) to which I added additional glass and they measure 1 inch thick. I also added 1 inch of foam to the front and rear edge to run brake line and to shape to streamline. My empty weight is 765 pounds an

KR> Gear legs

2008-10-12 Thread Phil Matheson
I have now added Don Laverick's Gear leg Photo's to my web page. The last 5 photo's on the Aussie KR page These are the pultrusion type legs as discussed a few weeks ago. Plus added a few Engine items to the Engine Page http://www.philskr2.50megs.com/ Phil Matheson VH-PKR mathes...@dodo.com.au

KR> gear legs

2008-10-12 Thread Larry&Sallie Flesner
>Can anyone tell me if I need to wrap the entire leg >with the glass,or just the lower portion around the drinking straw >I'm using the Diehl legs >Robert Pesak ++ If you are just wrapping the leg to conceal the brake line in a straw o

KR> gear legs

2008-10-12 Thread Dan Heath
I do believe that the Dan Diehl instructions state that the legs must be wrapped. I do know that mine are wrapped. See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building

KR> gear legs

2008-10-12 Thread Larry&Sallie Flesner
At 06:24 PM 6/7/2006, you wrote: >I do believe that the Dan Diehl instructions state that the legs must be >wrapped. I do know that mine are wrapped. ++= I pulled my many years old instructions out of the file cabinet and Dan Diehl suggest you

KR> gear legs

2008-10-12 Thread Charles Buddy & Cheryl Midkiff
n kit.) The length will vary depending on the axle and type of brake available. Cleveland and Matco are the most common. Bud Midkiff Lynnwood, WA - Original Message - From: "Dan Heath" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 4:24 PM Subject: Re: KR> gear legs >I do believ

KR> gear legs

2008-10-12 Thread Robert K Pesak
Hay Everyone Can anyone tell me if I need to wrap the entire leg with the glass,or just the lower portion around the drinking straw? I'm using the Diehl legs. Robert Pesak

KR> gear legs

2008-10-12 Thread Kenneth Wiltrout
Pesak" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 10:02 PM Subject: KR> gear legs > Hay Everyone > Can anyone tell me if I need to wrap the entire leg with the > glass,or just the lower portion around the drinking straw? I'm using the > Diehl legs. > >

KR> gear legs

2008-10-12 Thread Brian Kraut
:34 PM To: 1...@lizard.esosoft.net; hermit...@lizard.esosoft.net; t...@lizard.esosoft.net; KRnet Subject: Re: KR> gear legs I used the Diehl legs as wellI only wrapped the bottom and have had no issues for 6 yrs now. That being said I believe the instructions that came with the l

KR> gear legs

2008-10-12 Thread Barry Kruyssen
m/kr2/kr2.htm -Original Message- From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Brian Kraut Sent: Wednesday, 7 June 2006 1:47 PM To: KRnet Subject: RE: KR> gear legs I spoke to Dan about it when I did mine because he shorted me on the amount of cloth. He

KR> Gear legs and belly-boards

2008-10-12 Thread Dan Heath
If you want simple, use the Grove single piece gear. Expensive, but reliable simple, and easy on maintenance. Much easier to install and does not require as much surgery to the KR. I have installed both, and there is no comparison for simple. I think the belly board is the only way to go. Simple

KR> Gear legs and belly-boards

2008-10-12 Thread VIRGIL N SALISBURY
If you float, you are carring too much speed on final, Virg On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 17:37:05 -0500 "Rich Meyer" writes: > Joe, > Can you (or others) give me the pros and cons of aluminum > gear legs > vs. the Diehl scotchply composite? I'm about a week away from > ordering the > Di

KR> Gear legs and belly-boards

2008-10-12 Thread Mark Langford
> I think the belly board is the only way to go. Simple and the last thing you > need when landing is more lift generated by flaps. I'm not sure if I believe that, because no airplanes would have flaps if that were the case. The big thing that flaps give you (besides free drag) is they lower the

Fw: KR> Gear legs and belly-boards

2008-10-12 Thread P.Byington
- Original Message - From: "Mark Langford" To: "KRnet" Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 7:11 PM Subject: Re: KR> Gear legs and belly-boards Mark; I had the same problem with my airspeed indicater when I first flew N54PB back in 1991. I too had installed the s

KR> Gear legs and belly-boards

2008-10-12 Thread Dan Heath
Virgil, Can you give us some examples of your landings in a KR, to help us understand that statement. Like how to avoid too much speed, in a KR. See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering There is a time for building and a time for FL

KR> Gear legs and belly-boards

2008-10-12 Thread VIRGIL N SALISBURY
In any aircraft, the idea is to touch down at minimum speed. This you learned in flight school or from your instructor. Regardless of the aircraft, if you float on landing, your touchdown speed was too fast. Stick and Rudder is an excellent place to get this information. Perfect practice m

KR> Gear legs and belly-boards

2008-10-12 Thread ifly...@aol.com
Landing a tri gear at minimun speed is not an issue. Landing a low taildragger is a problem at minimum speed because the tail wheel will impact the runway before the mains and set up a miserable bounce. Therefore a little more speed is required on some taildraggers - such as mine- for a s

KR> Gear legs and belly-boards

2008-10-12 Thread VIRGIL N SALISBURY
On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 11:23:59 EDT ifly...@aol.com writes: > Landing a tri gear at minimun speed is not an issue. Landing a low > > taildragger is a problem at minimum speed because the tail wheel > will impact the > runway before the mains and set up a miserable bounce. When the tai

KR> Gear legs and belly-boards

2008-10-12 Thread fles...@midwest.net
When the tail is on the ground first, it will not bounce. you are locked into landing. proved many times in Cubs Champs & Tcraft. As you slow, the angle of attack becomes less and you will not become airborne, VJ +++ Most

KR> Gear legs and belly-boards

2008-10-12 Thread Orma
While my KR was a retract, and before I installed flaps, the only was to slow the KR to a reasonable landing speed was to fly with the nose high and the tail low. If not, the approach speed would always get too high. It was quite common for me to come in and land with the tail touching first

KR> Gear legs and belly-boards

2008-10-12 Thread Steve Glover
Well Virg, I would say since you have not flown a KR, you really are not qualified to comment here. I have also flown Champs, Cubs, etc. in addition to the 300 hours in my KR. They land VERY different from a KR in speed and weight. I can assure you, the KR will bounce back into the air after the

KR> Gear legs and belly-boards

2008-10-12 Thread VIRGIL N SALISBURY
On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 11:58:27 -0500 (GMT-05:00) fles...@midwest.net writes: > > > When the tail is on the ground first, it will not bounce. > you are > locked into landing. > proved many times in Cubs Champs & Tcraft. As you slow, the > angle > of attack > becomes less

KR> Gear legs and belly-boards

2008-10-12 Thread VIRGIL N SALISBURY
Accepted as not a flame BUT if the tailwheel stays on the ground you will NOT get airborne., Virg Aerodynamics do not change regardless of aircraft. On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 10:42:15 -0700 "Steve Glover" writes: > Well Virg, I would say since you have not flown a KR, you really are > not > qu

KR> Gear legs and belly-boards

2008-10-12 Thread Rich Meyer
Joe, Can you (or others) give me the pros and cons of aluminum gear legs vs. the Diehl scotchply composite? I'm about a week away from ordering the Diehl kit for converting from original retracts to fixed trigear. Simple, tested . . . Are there other options I should consider? A

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2008-10-12 Thread Colin Rainey
There was a commentary a short while back about cutting a grove gear leg set and how it would weaken the setup. Might want to check on the effect of cutting in the strength department prior to making that cut. Alot of that strength may have come from being one piece. Check the archives for the

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2008-10-12 Thread M & C
r brackets. Mike Turner Jackson, Missouri Swing the prop and light the fire, dance amoung the stars.N642MC - Original Message - From: "Colin Rainey" To: Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 7:15 PM Subject: KR> Gear Legs > There was a commentary a short while back abou

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2008-10-12 Thread Martindale Family
Hey Jeff Are they set at a steeper angle or are they thicker to take out some of the springiness? Must look like a KR on stilts or do you extend the tailwheel as well. John - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 11:14 AM Subject: Re: KR> glide rato.. > 30" Diehl

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2008-10-12 Thread Jeff Scott
No, No, and yes. There are lots of photos on the web from the gatherings. You'll have to judge for yourself. -Jeff -- "Martindale Family" wrote: Hey Jeff Are they set at a steeper angle or are they thicker to take out some of the springiness? Must look like a KR on stilts or do you extend

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2008-10-12 Thread Mark Langford
Jeff Scott wrote: >There are lots of photos on the web from the gatherings. My wallpaper on my home computer is http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/jeff_wallpaper.jpg . Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama see homebuilt airplane at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net

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2008-10-12 Thread thepitt...@juno.com
What is the length of the deihl gear legs? Mine are 26 1/2" just curious. Eric Pitts Terre Haute, In KR2S ___ Speed up your surfing with Juno SpeedBand. Now includes pop-up blocker! Only $14.95/month -visit http://www.juno.com/surf

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2008-10-12 Thread Mark Langford
Eric Pitts wrote: > What is the length of the deihl gear legs? Mine are 26 1/2" just curious. The composite legs themselves are 24". Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net --

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2008-10-12 Thread thepitt...@juno.com
Thanks for the info Mark, 2.5 inches should help on the prop clearance. Eric -- "Mark Langford" wrote: Eric Pitts wrote: > What is the length of the deihl gear legs? Mine are 26 1/2" just curious. The composite legs themselves are 24". Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama see KR2S project N56M

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2008-10-12 Thread Glasseyegav
Hi all, Quick question!! on the Dan Deihl type gear legs, Do the bolts holding the legs to the wing spar bracket require aluminium back up plates against the fibreglass leg or are flat washers enough surface area?? Gavin -- next part -- No virus found in this outgoing me

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2008-10-12 Thread Brian Kraut
+brian.kraut=engalt@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Glasseyegav Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 9:35 PM To: KR builders and pilots Subject: KR> Gear legs Hi all, Quick question!! on the Dan Deihl type gear legs, Do the bolts holding the legs to the wing spar bracket require aluminium back up pla

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2008-10-12 Thread Dean Cooper
Gavin wrote: >Do the bolts holding the legs to the wing spar bracket require aluminium back up plates Gavin, I bought my Diehl kit 12 months ago and it came with AN960 flat washers and locknuts. Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_coo...@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocitie