Probably because you haven't seen anyone use the conventional gear for a tri
gear configuration. It makes it harder to rotate with higher speeds needed.
The use of the conventional gear caused the nose gear to shimmy and break.
That also is one of the factors why Dan changed the gear leg profile and
went to the 4130 strut. Mark's data would be interesting to have or see if
there are still people out there with this configuration. Dan recalled all
the fiberglass struts they sent out.

The design of the conventional gear leg placed the axle point at the same
location where Ken designed the retract gear to be. When on the back side of
the spar it places the wheels too far aft. The gear leg profile for the
trigear (like Jones' KR) placed the wheels farther forward allowing easier
rotation on take-off. 

For those still not sure of which leg is which, the gear leg pictured on nV
Aero is the conventional leg. I may be pulling the plug on the website soon.

Steve Glover


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From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-boun...@list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of Mark Langford
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Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2018 12:19 AM
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Subject: Re: KR> Gear legs - G loading


That's the first I've heard of issues with the nose dropping abruptly on the
tri-gear versions, so it looks like a bit more investigation is in order.
I've seen drawings in the aircraft design books regarding recommended gear
angles with respect to CG for both conventional and tri-gear installations,
and will fish those out when I get I chance.
Pazmany did some especially good work in this area, with fairly precise
descriptions for the geometry of both gear types.   Any anecdotal
information from KR pilots (with reasonable CGs and some hours of KR flying
experience) who've noticed the nose dropping suddenly on their tri-gear KR
would be appreciated.  I'll try to add some of this increased gear knowledge
to my gear site in the next few weeks.  This is also a reminder to me that I
need to update www.krnet.org also, so we can pass on this useful information
to aid future builders.  I'll probably be asking for some dimensions from
tri-gear guys who are satisfied with their landings in that process, as well
as any who feel their nose drops abruptly, if there are any still flying.

Also, it's worth pointing out that the gear was either designed/tested, or
both to 3 g's.  That's presumably for a 900 lb KR2.  My first landing was
5.5 g's as felt by the panel-mounted meter, at what was probably 950 pounds,
so it's pretty safe to say that my first landing proved that the standard
Diehl conventional gear legs of the mid-nineties is good for
5.8 g's!  I dropped it in from what seemed like 8'....at least 5'. That was
my first lesson on sudden full throttle excursions from idle....the engine
quit dead, just when I desperately needed a few hundred RPMs.  
At the time I felt quite lucky I didn't tear the gear off entirely (it was
quite a jolt), although I did finally manage to tear one off in a terraced
hay field dead-stick landing 1130 hours later!

Thanks,

Mark Langford, Harvest, AL
ML "at" N56ML.com
www.N56ML.com


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