Re: [issues] Female Objectification of men (was: Screenshots)

1999-10-26 Thread Steve Kudlak
J B wrote: > But does it seem overblown when somebody is freaked out about something and > articulates it clearly and why, and wonders: "Well do we want this kind of > atmosphere for this thing?" Is that a valid question, yeah it is. Should we > talk about without shouting...Well at least I th

Re: [issues] Female Objectification of men (was: Screenshots)

1999-10-24 Thread jenn
J B wrote: > Someone wrote: > > But does it seem overblown when somebody is freaked out about something and > > articulates it clearly and why, and wonders: "Well do we want this kind of > > atmosphere for this thing?" Is that a valid question, yeah it is. Should we > > talk about without shoutin

Re: [issues] Female Objectification of men (was: Screenshots)

1999-10-24 Thread Deirdre Saoirse
On Sun, 24 Oct 1999, Steve Kudlak wrote: > So yeah it happens but it is a limited thing. But it is curious in the other > direction, Gyms make a lot of money on guys thinking if they get buff, they'll > "get a girlfriend" and male writers will often cross map things assuming "this > is how I look

Re: [issues] Female Objectification of men (was: Screenshots)

1999-10-24 Thread Deirdre Saoirse
On Sun, 24 Oct 1999, J B wrote: > Frankly, I find talk about the quality of some dude's butt just as > offensive as the talk about some woman's breasts. > > > What about a "person makes them cute if it is not their body and bearing

Re: [issues] Female Objectification of men (was: Screenshots)

1999-10-24 Thread J B
But does it seem overblown when somebody is freaked out about something and articulates it clearly and why, and wonders: "Well do we want this kind of atmosphere for this thing?" Is that a valid question, yeah it is. Should we talk about without shouting...Well at least I think so. Am I bemuse

Re: [issues] Female Objectification of men (was: Screenshots)

1999-10-24 Thread Caitlyn M. Martin
Hi, Steve, > I mean I don't know. I don't see how these mysterious things are going to > destroy our civilization. I mean, hardly think so. Do I think people carry too > far sometimes. Do I think people don't carry it to far enough ...Correct. > > What I am trying to say is that a moderate leve

Re: [issues] Female Objectification of men (was: Screenshots)

1999-10-24 Thread Steve Kudlak
J B wrote: > Frankly, I find talk about the quality of some dude's butt just as > offensive as the talk about some woman's breasts. I don't bother. I might > say someone is cute or good-looking, but in most cases I think the PERSON > is cute. Their body really isn't a primary concern for me. >

Re: [issues] Female Objectification of men (was: Screenshots)

1999-10-24 Thread Steve Kudlak
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Taylor wrote: > > > Admit it: men aren't the only ones who objectify. Almost every > > woman I know (myself included) is more than willing to talk about > > the finer points of Mel G.'s rear, or movies where you get the > > absolute best exposure of David D.'s hiney.

Re: [issues] Female Objectification of men (was: Screenshots)

1999-10-24 Thread J B
Frankly, I find talk about the quality of some dude's butt just as offensive as the talk about some woman's breasts. I don't bother. I might say someone is cute or good-looking, but in most cases I think the PERSON is cute. Their body really isn't a primary concern for me. ---

Re: [issues] Female Objectification of men (was: Screenshots)

1999-10-24 Thread Brendan/Coolian
> > Admit it: men aren't the only ones who objectify. Almost every > > woman I know (myself included) is more than willing to talk about > > the finer points of Mel G.'s rear, or movies where you get the > > absolute best exposure of David D.'s hiney. We aren't delicate > > little flowers, and I

Re: [issues] Female Objectification of men (was: Screenshots)

1999-10-23 Thread Deirdre Saoirse
On Sun, 24 Oct 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Actually, the only person I've ever discussed this kind of issue with > is my husband. I've *never* been part of a group of women (or a group > of men, or a mixed group) who discusses such things. About guys OR > girls. Frankly, I find talk about t