"Jenn V." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You're starting in a bad position. I accept and admit that. But I suspect
> that when you research things, you'll find that your position is no worse
> than those of the women who first formed support for women with 'strict'
> husbands.
To say the least!
Robert Kiesling wrote:
>And my ranting about it doesn't seem to do any more good than
> your ranting about it.
I dunno. Women's ranting about issues has given us the vote, 75%
of equal pay, the opportunity to actually earn our own living
(mostly), _some_ subsidy for shelters, roughly equivalent
"J B" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I must disagree here. It may often be because of money, but in most of the
> cases I know of, the guy is attracted to the strong independent woman who
> just happens to be a geek (in the hetero relationships, obviously). Men
> that were raised in a househo
Snarfblat wrote:
> And thus brings up an interesting point. What about daughters? Are
> they influenced by the personality of their mothers to a severe extent?
> Does anyone know of a relationship between the mothers view of
> technology (i.e. a 'geek' or very not 'geek') and how that affects t
As far as I can tell, children go for exactly the opposite of what their
parents do for the teenage years, but they seem to emulate a mixture of
both of their parents to one degree or another...
I don't know if this is the case in families that grew up under a single
parent, but I do know that I h
With girls, I think it is more even between father and mother, though
personally I have found it leans toward the father.
I have a great relationship with my father, he likes to tinker with
things and understand how they work. When he started college in the mid
1970s, he started in computers... u
J B wrote:
>
> On Fri, 7 Apr 2000, Susannah Rosenberg wrote:
>
> > i agree that geekiness is becoming attractive. however, it's
> > becoming attractive because of _money_.
>
> I must disagree here. It may often be because of money, but in most of the
> cases I know of, the guy is attracted t
On Fri, 7 Apr 2000, Susannah Rosenberg wrote:
> i agree that geekiness is becoming attractive. however, it's
> becoming attractive because of _money_.
I must disagree here. It may often be because of money, but in most of the
cases I know of, the guy is attracted to the strong independent wo
Lynette Quinn wrote:
> I think everyone wants to feel desirable. Girls at the age of 12 or so have
> a lot to sort out about their own sexuality etc. It is helpful for both men
> and women to portray smart women as attractive and desirable.
Smart guys too :)
The sad fact is that the culture we
One thing that hasn't been touched upon in this discussion is the attitude a
girl's father plays in all of this. I have read information and studies
about the importance of adult male comments at this stage in a girl's life.
I think everyone wants to feel desirable. Girls at the age of 12 or so ha
On Thu, 30 Mar 2000 22:32:39 +1000
"Jenn V." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It concludes that there is a tendancy for girls, around the
> early teenage years, to stop using computers by choice. They
> continue to use them for specific tasks, but stop experimenting
> and playing.
My sister and I re
I am a high school teacher, computer science and webmastering in Dallas, Texas.
I attended Carnegie Melon's 6APT workshop for AP Computer Science Teachers several
years ago addressing this issue.
We teachers, do a horrible job teaching young girls. I am attempting to do better,
and it shows,
On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, Jenn V. wrote:
> I just bought and read the book 'Does Jane Compute?'
> Do people think this is still the case - current information
> only please! but anecdotal is fine - and do people have any
> suggestions?
Well anecdotally - I just got off the phone from my 19-yr-old
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