Re: [issues] YAFGA (Yet Another Female Geeks Article)

2000-02-22 Thread steph
= = (Yes, I really am celibate, and by choice, not circumstance. Apart from = any other benefit, I find it frees me up to flirt with my gay male friends, = because we all know where the boundaries lie. And yes, most of these guys = are geeks.) = = Claudine = Um, unless I'm missing somethin

Re: [issues] YAFGA (Yet Another Female Geeks Article)

2000-02-22 Thread Dan McGarry
- Original Message - From: Claudine Chionh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 11:47 PM Subject: Re: [issues] YAFGA (Yet Another Female Geeks Article) > On Tue, Feb 22, 2000 at 10:57:46PM -0500, Dan McGarry wrote: > > > We-ell, I've always been ru

Re: [issues] YAFGA (Yet Another Female Geeks Article)

2000-02-22 Thread Claudine Chionh
On Tue, Feb 22, 2000 at 10:57:46PM -0500, Dan McGarry wrote: > We-ell, I've always been ruled by *both* hemispheres of my brain. I write > left-handed, but throw right-handed. I love geekly topics like hardware and > software architectures, and am just as passionate about creating art. How about

Re: [issues] YAFGA (Yet Another Female Geeks Article)

2000-02-22 Thread coder
Dan McGarry wrote: > > More like a hash, if you ask me > hmmm.. if I were to choose a god to worship it would be hash ;) -- .oO()Oo.oO()Oo.oO()Oo.oO()Oo.oO()Oo.oO()Oo.oO()Oo.oO()Oo.oO()Oo. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://cubicmetercrystal.com/ "You are the product of a mutational

Re: [issues] YAFGA (Yet Another Female Geeks Article)

2000-02-22 Thread Dan McGarry
- Original Message - From: Rik Hemsley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 4:25 AM Subject: Re: [issues] YAFGA (Yet Another Female Geeks Article) > #if Dan McGarry > > Dan (still pining for a mixed-brain-dominant job) McGarry > > Wots one of them

Re: [issues] YAFGA (Yet Another Female Geeks Article)

2000-02-22 Thread Dan McGarry
- Original Message - From: Rik Hemsley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 4:39 AM Subject: Re: [issues] YAFGA (Yet Another Female Geeks Article) > > $DEITY only knows why this is. *shrug* > Presumable that's an array ? ;) More like a hash, if

Re: [issues] YAFGA (Yet Another Female Geeks Article)

2000-02-22 Thread Dan McGarry
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 2:32 AM Subject: Re: [issues] YAFGA (Yet Another Female Geeks Article) > Dan McGarry wrote: > > > > > Dan (still pining for a mixed-brain-dominant job) McGarry > > Documenting code. T

Re: [issues] Re; YAFGA (Yet Another Female Geeks Article)

2000-02-22 Thread Jenn V.
Mary Wood wrote: > In a class full of guys, the instructor will hover > over me and my friend Monica asking "Are you ladies all right? > Let me show you how to ... ." > In such classes, I feel awkward asking questions because I > get the looks like "Oh, of course -you- don't get it..." Yes. This

[issues] Re; YAFGA (Yet Another Female Geeks Article)

2000-02-22 Thread Mary Wood
> Have any of you ever felt excluded or neglected in tech > classes because of your gender? (little behind responding ...) More often, I feel the implication that I need more help because of my gender. In a class full of guys, the instructor will hover over me and my friend Monica asking "Are

Re: [issues] YAFGA (Yet Another Female Geeks Article)

2000-02-22 Thread Rik Hemsley
#if Jeff > I always think of it as $DEITY, an environmental variable set by my .login or >.profile scripts, I set mine to Kibo, y'all can set yours to whatever god/goddess you >worship most (my current understanding of polytheism is that one would believe in >many gods, but have one they primar

Re: [issues] YAFGA (Yet Another Female Geeks Article)

2000-02-22 Thread Jeff
On Tue, Feb 22, 2000 at 12:19:16PM +, Kirrily 'Skud' Robert wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Rik Hemsley wrote: > >> $DEITY only knows why this is. *shrug* > >Presumable that's an array ? ;) > > An array would be @DEITIES. I guess I should say: > > $DEITIES[rand(@DEITIES)] I alway

Re: [issues] This is an odd thing.

2000-02-22 Thread Snarfblat
Bad Mojo wrote: > > On Tue, 22 Feb 2000, Caitlyn Martin wrote: > > First, I disagree 100%. To me, taking the monopoly (and the power it inevitably > > brings) from Microsoft is important. I really would like to take the control of > > information out of the commercial arena as much as possible

Re: [issues] This is an odd thing.

2000-02-22 Thread Bad Mojo
On Tue, 22 Feb 2000, Caitlyn Martin wrote: > First, I disagree 100%. To me, taking the monopoly (and the power it inevitably > brings) from Microsoft is important. I really would like to take the control of > information out of the commercial arena as much as possible so that it can > benefit th

Re: [issues] This is an odd thing.

2000-02-22 Thread Caitlyn Martin
> I may be wrong, but I think you miss my point. It doesn't matter how I > mess wth Linux. It dosn't matter how I build my machines. The rest of the > world wants easy to understand, easy to work with Linux and when they > don't get it, they might just forget about it. > > But I guess that's not a

Re: [issues] YAFGA (Yet Another Female Geeks Article)

2000-02-22 Thread Rik Hemsley
#if Kirrily 'Skud' Robert > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Rik Hemsley wrote: > > > >If you have more (qualified) women than men applying for posts, then > >you can hardly be accused of reverse discrimination. > > They can't take it to court and expect to win, no. However, it is not > unlikely

Re: [issues] YAFGA (Yet Another Female Geeks Article)

2000-02-22 Thread Rik Hemsley
#if Kelly Lynn Martin > Why? The only reason for having this is to make it easier for guys > who are attracted to bisexual women (yeh) but are themselves not > actually bisexual to more easily identify their prey. Good point. Sod it. Rik -- Usurp reality. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [issues] YAFGA (Yet Another Female Geeks Article)

2000-02-22 Thread Claudine Chionh
Some time in the past, "Jenn V." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scripsit, > Lets make Melbourne an enclave of Linux-wielding hippie geek > vegan dykes - and those who don't quite fit that description. > (linux-wielding hippie geek vegan males are welcome too. And > those who don't quite fit...) Hmm, cou

Re: [issues] YAFGA (Yet Another Female Geeks Article)

2000-02-22 Thread Kirrily 'Skud' Robert
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >(dyke: lesbian) Not quite. It implies a whole bunch of social/political overhead. Dykes (in Melbourne, Australia, anyway) tend to be less political, more butch. Dykes can occasionally get away with sleeping with MOTOS, but lesbians can

Re: [issues] YAFGA (Yet Another Female Geeks Article)

2000-02-22 Thread Jenn V.
Kirrily 'Skud' Robert wrote: > >We have reverse discrimination here. You have to employ a certain > >number of disabled (don't know the pc term) people, even if none > >of them have the skills, qualifications or experience. > > Hrm, that sucks. We've been employing disabled people *because* the

Re: [issues] YAFGA (Yet Another Female Geeks Article)

2000-02-22 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Tue, 22 Feb 2000 09:35:35 +, Rik Hemsley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >>The same as for a bi women. Bi or bisexual. >That's crap though. We need two new words, one for bi women, one for >bi men. Then make everyone in the world aware of them and they move >into common use. Reckon that can be

Re: [issues] This is an odd thing.

2000-02-22 Thread Bad Mojo
On Mon, 21 Feb 2000, Robert Kiesling wrote: > It helps to think of the way that the FSF and Linux define > themselves. Linux (according to Linus) is the kernel. The rest > is free software, mostly. > > What I do generally is install a basic Debian system, then add X > from ftp.x.org, and ev

Re: [issues] YAFGA (Yet Another Female Geeks Article)

2000-02-22 Thread Kirrily 'Skud' Robert
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Rik Hemsley wrote: > >If you have more (qualified) women than men applying for posts, then >you can hardly be accused of reverse discrimination. They can't take it to court and expect to win, no. However, it is not unlikely that we might get accused of it in less

Re: [issues] YAFGA (Yet Another Female Geeks Article)

2000-02-22 Thread Rik Hemsley
#if Jenn V. > We *actually have* a unisex descriptor word for a category of > human beings where sex/gender is irrelevent - and you want to > split it? > > Why? I don't understand. Genuine question, not sarcasm. WHY? Good point, actually. Leave it ambiguous :) Rik -- Transgress. **

Re: [issues] YAFGA (Yet Another Female Geeks Article)

2000-02-22 Thread Jenn V.
Rik Hemsley wrote: > Jenn V. wrote: > > The same as for a bi women. Bi or bisexual. > > That's crap though. We need two new words, one for bi women, one for > bi men. Then make everyone in the world aware of them and they move > into common use. Reckon that can be done in 6 months or so ? Why?

Re: [issues] YAFGA (Yet Another Female Geeks Article)

2000-02-22 Thread Rik Hemsley
#if [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > If I sit in front of a screen all day and program, does that > > necessarily make me a geek ? :) > > Nope. There's plenty of proto-suits who do it, after all. Hmm. I noticed the word 'suit' in there. Having never worn one on principle, I don't think I count for that cat

Re: [issues] YAFGA (Yet Another Female Geeks Article)

2000-02-22 Thread Rik Hemsley
#if Kirrily 'Skud' Robert > Suits me. Cept that if I hire any more female geeks, I'm going to start > getting accused of reverse discrimination. > > Actually, you recall what I said about training courses, that we're > getting more women than men attending them? We're also getting more > women

Re: [issues] YAFGA (Yet Another Female Geeks Article)

2000-02-22 Thread Rik Hemsley
#if Dan McGarry > Dan (still pining for a mixed-brain-dominant job) McGarry Wots one of them ? Rik -- Mock your own urgency. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] YAFGA (Yet Another Female Geeks Article)

2000-02-22 Thread Jeff
On Mon, Feb 21, 2000 at 11:46:59PM -0800, Dakota Surmonde wrote: > On Mon, 21 Feb 2000, Jeff wrote: > > > Ah, yes, the life of the wunderkind. I've been chased by that > > stereotype since I was a second-grader (no one-upmanship intended), and > > I'm just now beginning to be able to live parts