Re: SMPE Receive Order Error

2025-01-21 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
> GIM69192S ** RECEIVE PROCESSING HAS FAILED FOR ORDER ORD00014. AN ERROR WAS > FOUND IN THE RESPONSE RECEIVED FROM THE > SERVER AT > https://eccgw01.boulder.ibm.com/services/projects/ecc/ws/ WHEN PROCESSING > ORDER ORD00014 WITH > ORDERID H09421646. > GIM69226Ifault

Re: File transfer question

2025-01-21 Thread Rick Troth
Not disagreeing with Charles at all, his response in this thread triggered more thoughts on this end. As I said privately to the OP, there are really only two options when transferring files between mainframe op sys (MVS, VM, VSE, TPF) and PC (Windoze, Mac, Linux): binary and plain text. Anyth

Re: IBM-MAIN Digest - 19 Jan 2025 to 20 Jan 2025 (#2025-20)

2025-01-21 Thread Gary Weinhold
I never had to think about blocksize when the input was from a physical card reader 50 years ago.  Best practices change so quickly! On 2025-01-21 12:00 a.m., IBM-MAIN automatic digest system wrote: Date:Mon, 20 Jan 2025 20:48:36 -0500 From:Matt Hogstrom Subject: Re: Does this make any

Re: Pipes

2025-01-21 Thread Willy Jensen
Interesting, please let us know when it runs from TSO. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

OMVS

2025-01-21 Thread Tony Newman
Wasn’t MVS Open Edition available in MVS 4.3. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: Pipes

2025-01-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 20 Jan 2025 21:19:46 -0500, Rick Troth wrote: >... >So the next trick will be to figure out how to run it from TSO without >having to get into a shell. >... That feels like trying "to figure out how to run ISPF from shell without having to get into TSO." (Which I have on occasion w

Re: Pipes

2025-01-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 21 Jan 2025 12:36:04 -0500, David Spiegel wrote: >Hi Rick, >You said: "... for more than 30 years. ..." >OS/390 was release in late 1995. >Did you get an early copy? > I believe OMVS antedates OS/390, perhaps MVS 5.2.2. >On 2025-01-21 12:23, Rick Troth wrote: >> rambling and thinking-out

Re: Pipes

2025-01-21 Thread Rick Troth
rambling and thinking-out-loud follows On 1/21/25 11:12 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Mon, 20 Jan 2025 21:19:46 -0500, Rick Troth wrote: ... So the next trick will be to figure out how to run it from TSO without having to get into a shell. ... That feels like trying "to figure out how

Re: EXTERNAL Email: CBTView ISPF Dialog - quick survey/question

2025-01-21 Thread Farley, Peter
Financial institutions in particular strictly control what sites outside of the mainframe can be accessed by the mainframe (outgoing requests in particular). I put those restrictions down to auditor paranoia and incompetence with respect to the mainframe environment, which are widespread if not

Re: File transfer question

2025-01-21 Thread Phil Smith III
Paul Gilmartin wrote, in part: >What does UNICODE say about overstrike? Nothing. That's not a character thing per se. Now, there are "combining" characters, like some accents, but that's kinda different. -- For IBM-MAIN subscri

Re: Pipes

2025-01-21 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Rick, You said: "... for more than 30 years. ..." OS/390 was release in late 1995. Did you get an early copy? Regards, David On 2025-01-21 12:23, Rick Troth wrote: rambling and thinking-out-loud follows On 1/21/25 11:12 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Mon, 20 Jan 2025 21:19:46 -0500, Rick Tr

Re: File transfer question

2025-01-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 21 Jan 2025 09:35:12 -0500, Rick Troth wrote: > >As I said privately to the OP, there are really only two options when >transferring files between mainframe op sys (MVS, VM, VSE, TPF) and PC >(Windoze, Mac, Linux): binary and plain text. Anything else really needs >to be considered a specia

Re: File transfer question

2025-01-21 Thread Seymour J Metz
Internet protocols use CRLF for new line, as do several PC OS's, *IX use LF. What OS are you running sed in? --  Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר From: IBM Mainframe Discussion L

Re: EXTERNAL Email: CBTView ISPF Dialog - quick survey/question

2025-01-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 21 Jan 2025 16:19:46 +, Jerry Whitteridge wrote: >Yes absolutely ! FTP to external sites is strictly controlled. > Is the concern with the intrinsic weakness of FTP? would FTPS (AT/T:S) be better? Does cbttape.org support those? If the concern is malware infiltration, curl, HTTPS, an

Re: File transfer question

2025-01-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 21 Jan 2025 16:45:42 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >Not naive at all; it allowed overprinting. That's true even when the target >device doesn't implement those functions; the device driver deals with it. > "The good thing about standards is ..." There's also Machine Carriage Control and "

Kale

2025-01-21 Thread Bob Bridges
Normally I like to include attribution on these taglines, but I'm afraid I ran into that at some random location and can't tell you where it came from. I promise I didn't invent it myself, though. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Opportunity is missed by most people

Re: OMVS

2025-01-21 Thread Mark Jacobs
>From what I remember, and it's been decades, MVS Open Edition came out with >MVS/ESA 5.2.2, but I could be very wrong too. Mark Jacobs Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. GPG Public Key - https://api.protonmail.ch/pks/lookup?op=get&search=markjac...@protonmail.com On Tuesday

Re: REXX Outtrap Secret

2025-01-21 Thread Lionel B Dyck
Convoluted and not intuitive but it works. On Tue, Jan 21, 2025 at 6:05 PM Glenn Knickerbocker wrote: > > On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 21:10:57 -0600, Lionel B Dyck wrote: > >Corrected URL as the article was moved to the Tutorials section of the site > >https://dinoframe.io/tutorial/a-rexx-outtrap-secret

Re: OMVS

2025-01-21 Thread Lionel B Dyck
You are correct - Open Edition was released with MVS//SP 4.3 in1986 On Tue, Jan 21, 2025 at 6:23 PM Mark Jacobs <0224d287a4b1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > From what I remember, and it's been decades, MVS Open Edition came out with > MVS/ESA 5.2.2, but I could be very wrong too. >

Re: Pipes

2025-01-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 21 Jan 2025 12:23:17 -0500, Rick Troth wrote: >rambling and thinking-out-loud follows >...> >It might not even be needed. The current 'pipe' command in XFL already >has to un-do the command line tokenization done by the shell so that the >pipeline can be processed as a single string.

Re: File transfer question

2025-01-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 21 Jan 2025 16:04:45 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >Internet protocols use CRLF for new line, as do several PC OS's, *IX use LF. > "veral PC OS's" are getting better. I discovered lately that Notepad works without the . was the naive design practice of conflating device protocols with da

Re: EXTERNAL Email: CBTView ISPF Dialog - quick survey/question

2025-01-21 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
Yes absolutely ! FTP to external sites is strictly controlled. Jerry Whitteridge Sr Manager Managed Services jerry.whitteri...@albertsons.com 480 578 7889 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Lionel B Dyck Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2025 9:16 PM To: IBM-MAI

Re: File transfer question

2025-01-21 Thread Seymour J Metz
Not naive at all; it allowed overprinting. That's true even when the target device doesn't implement those functions; the device driver deals with it. --  Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר ___

Re: SMPE Receive Order Error

2025-01-21 Thread Mark Pace
Thanks, Kurt. Opened a Support Case. On Tue, Jan 21, 2025 at 8:46 AM Kurt Quackenbush wrote: > > GIM69192S ** RECEIVE PROCESSING HAS FAILED FOR ORDER ORD00014. AN ERROR > WAS FOUND IN THE RESPONSE RECEIVED FROM THE > > SERVER AT > > https://eccgw01.boulder.ibm.com/services/projects

Re: Pipes

2025-01-21 Thread Rick Troth
Sorry ... I'm including the years before that when "mainframe people" and "Unix people" were at odds. In those days, I worked in shops where interoperability reigned, so I was sensitive to the noise and was (am) frustrated by the disconnect. But ... no ... no early copy. I got access to "OpenEd

Re: AI makes stuff up

2025-01-21 Thread Dick Williams
Experts just today confirmed an investment of 500 billion to build AI data centers. No matter what this group believes, AI is real and the future of technology.  https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/21/tech/openai-oracle-softbank-trump-ai-investment?cid=ios_app Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Tues

Re: AI makes stuff up

2025-01-21 Thread Dick Williams
I want the truth, always. Like manmade global warming is real. Today, the truth is whatever bull people want to believe. You can find people who believe the earth is flat. (It isn’t) That’s why I always deferred to the experts here. Not the ones who think they are experts but the actual experts.

Re: REXX Outtrap Secret

2025-01-21 Thread Glenn Knickerbocker
On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 21:10:57 -0600, Lionel B Dyck wrote: >Corrected URL as the article was moved to the Tutorials section of the site >https://dinoframe.io/tutorial/a-rexx-outtrap-secret It took me a while to understand what the alternative was to call outtrap 't.' x = sayit('Calling LISTD')

z/PDOS-generic

2025-01-21 Thread Paul Edwards
A 35+ year quest to port MSDOS (or similar) to the mainframe has now been sufficiently done. My usual integrity test is to see if gcc 3.2.3 can reproduce itself. The z/PDOS-generic version of gcc 3.2.3 can now do this - byte-exact. A ridiculous amount of effort was spent to get here. More-or-less

Re: z/PDOS-generic

2025-01-21 Thread René Jansen
wow Paul, congratulations! Cannot wait to check it out! best regards, René. > On 22 Jan 2025, at 07:53, Paul Edwards > <0676ab6435a5-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > A 35+ year quest to port MSDOS (or similar) to the mainframe > has now been sufficiently done. > > My usual integ