On Tue, 21 Jan 2025 12:36:04 -0500, David Spiegel wrote: >Hi Rick, >You said: "... for more than 30 years. ..." >OS/390 was release in late 1995. >Did you get an early copy? > I believe OMVS antedates OS/390, perhaps MVS 5.2.2.
>On 2025-01-21 12:23, Rick Troth wrote: >> rambling and thinking-out-loud follows >> >> >> On 1/21/25 11:12 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >>> On Mon, 20 Jan 2025 21:19:46 -0500, Rick Troth wrote: >>>> ... >>>> So the next trick will be to figure out how to run it from TSO without >>>> having to get into a shell. >>>> ... >>> That feels like trying "to figure out how to run ISPF from shell >>> without having to get into TSO." (Which I have on occasion wanted.) >>> Or trying "to figure out how to visit the Louvre without having to >>> go to France." >> >> >> But see Willy Jensen's response, which I take to be typical of a lot >> of MVS people. >> Personally, I'm happy in the shell, but I have heard bitching and >> moaning about it from both MVS people and VM people for more than 30 >> years. >> Really want to make things easier for that segment of our community. >> And I get it: yet another learning curve. That sucks. >> >> Likely XFL will have a supplemental program 'pipetso' which, when >> compiled, will provide exactly that, a TSO command so that TSO users >> can run an XFL "pipe" without having to launched a USS shell. Another >> SMOP. >> Methinks a GitHub "issue" is warranted. >> >> It might not even be needed. The current 'pipe' command in XFL already >> has to un-do the command line tokenization done by the shell so that >> the pipeline can be processed as a single string. That part would be >> skipped, for starters. Maybe someone can show me how to make the >> executable visible to TSO. >> >> >>>> *https://github.com/trothtech/xfl/* -- gil ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN