Sorry ... I'm including the years before that when "mainframe people"
and "Unix people" were at odds.
In those days, I worked in shops where interoperability reigned, so I
was sensitive to the noise and was (am) frustrated by the disconnect.
But ... no ... no early copy. I got access to "OpenEdition" probably May
of 1995, so not quite 30 years ... yet.
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On 1/21/25 12:36 PM, David Spiegel wrote:
Hi Rick,
You said: "... for more than 30 years. ..."
OS/390 was release in late 1995.
Did you get an early copy?
Regards,
David
On 2025-01-21 12:23, Rick Troth wrote:
rambling and thinking-out-loud follows
On 1/21/25 11:12 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2025 21:19:46 -0500, Rick Troth wrote:
...
So the next trick will be to figure out how to run it from TSO without
having to get into a shell.
...
That feels like trying "to figure out how to run ISPF from shell
without having to get into TSO." (Which I have on occasion wanted.)
Or trying "to figure out how to visit the Louvre without having to
go to France."
But see Willy Jensen's response, which I take to be typical of a lot
of MVS people.
Personally, I'm happy in the shell, but I have heard bitching and
moaning about it from both MVS people and VM people for more than 30
years.
Really want to make things easier for that segment of our community.
And I get it: yet another learning curve. That sucks.
Likely XFL will have a supplemental program 'pipetso' which, when
compiled, will provide exactly that, a TSO command so that TSO users
can run an XFL "pipe" without having to launched a USS shell. Another
SMOP.
Methinks a GitHub "issue" is warranted.
It might not even be needed. The current 'pipe' command in XFL
already has to un-do the command line tokenization done by the shell
so that the pipeline can be processed as a single string. That part
would be skipped, for starters. Maybe someone can show me how to make
the executable visible to TSO.
*https://github.com/trothtech/xfl/*
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