Re: [GNC] How to treat a sale which involves more accounts?

2024-09-24 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
You are correct, Flavio Look, we on this help list are qualified to give advice how to use gnucash to do double entry bookkeeping, That does not mean we are qualified to give accounting advice. Some of us do have a reasonable amount of knowledge/experience, but as non-professionals, treat that

Re: [GNC] Owning stocks which are not publicly quoted - which account type suits better?

2024-09-24 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
On 9/24/2024 4:56 PM, Boniforti Flavio wrote: Hi. I'm partner and own stocks of the company I work for. This company is not on the public market. The stock value is defined once per year and dividends are then paid out. Do I understand correctly, that I don't have to set up a "stock" type accoun

Re: [GNC] How to treat a sale which involves more accounts?

2024-09-26 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
Of course, following split transaction can be posted Sale with profit: selling at 3500 Debit - cash or bank - 3500 Credit - asset - 2300 Credit -gain on sale : 1200 Sale with loss : selling at 2000 Debit - cash or bank - 2000 Credit - asset - 2300 Debit - loss on sale - 300 Paras Please

Re: [GNC] Import QIF into placeholder

2024-09-28 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
On 9/28/2024 11:22 AM, Steve Butler wrote: 1. Please file an enhancement request in bugzilla for GnuCash to warn that a destination account is flagged as a placeholder. Perhaps change the line color to yellow. I think red is currently used to show the match algorithm doesn't know which account

Re: [GNC] Backup Solution - Linux Desktop to Synology NAS

2024-09-28 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
Just to note that it's not mythical. It's a per-directory setting (which you can only change on an empty - normally new - directory). To do for an existing directory X, rename to Y, (re)create directory X, apply this option to X (make names case sensitive), copy all members of Y to X, and dele

Re: [GNC] Entering my real estate and mortgage?

2024-09-28 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
HERE you are discussing transactions that were NOT enterable ib your books (which are irrelavant to books begun 31.12.2023 I would enter it as follows (let's assume the real estate total cost is 500k): Assets:Fixed Assets:Real Estate - increase 300k Liabilities:Loans:Mortgage Loans: - increas

Re: [GNC] Database storage

2024-09-20 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
On 9/19/2024 3:53 PM, Steve Butler wrote: My first job out of college had a Honeywell 115 Mod 2 box.  Hard drive (singular) was 10 MB.  RAM was 32K of magnetic core.  6 bit CPU and 7 track 556 bpi tape (3 of them). Thought we were going to heaven when it was replaced by an HP 3000 with 7 hard

Re: [GNC] How to treat a sale which involves more accounts?

2024-09-20 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
This IS the way should have started. With the problem descried in "business" terms, for the moment leaving gnucash out of it << at this level, the answers would app;y equally to old fashioned keeping the books pen and ink on paper >> a) The income or loss from sale of part of your collection i

Re: [GNC] dollar signs in reports

2024-09-20 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
On 9/20/2024 12:26 PM, Murugan Mariappan wrote: If you want to register and track non standard ISO currency , create it as a security and register and track. I was assuming that what was wanted was full accounting in this other unit of exchange. The fact that "rules" might make it not exchange

Re: [GNC] dollar signs in reports

2024-09-20 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
On 9/19/2024 8:17 PM, Murugan Mariappan wrote: You cannot remove the sign altogether. Can you explain the use case The main legitimate reason would be the accounting unit is not any generally accepted "currency" but some special unit. Nor a commodity, because by rules, not allowed to be exch

Re: [GNC] Another "multi-account" logical issue - any advice on how to register this?

2024-09-30 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
Just a hobby. Well many/most of our hobbies are not "at risk" of producing income. And jurisdictions differ. Here in the US if your hobby does produce an income, that IS taxable, but because a hobby, expenses count only toward reducing that income. In other words, losses from the hobby canno

Re: [GNC] stock spinoff and lots

2024-09-30 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
On 9/29/2024 10:20 PM, Michael Matz wrote: Geoff, Thanks for detailed example. It looks similar to a suggestion made in 2012 that I had dismissed because it closes out the original lot, which I am hoping to avoid. Why does that not create a capital gains transaction? That is NOT a gnucas

Re: [GNC] Another "multi-account" logical issue - any advice on how to register this?

2024-09-30 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
As I also have an account for "Postage expenses", how would I have to register the 10 bucks I spent for shipping, so that it also accounts towards the postage expenses in general? As I have been doing books for 501(c)3 organizations, an issue (printing and postage is a line item on the 990/9

Re: [GNC] Another "multi-account" logical issue - any advice on how to register this?

2024-09-30 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
I would absolutely record shipping as an expense, not an asset. The asset has value after you receive it; the shipping is "used up" the moment the package arrives. Only things that still have value should be listed in Assets. No . if I am in the business of buying and selling widgets I well

Re: [GNC] Another "multi-account" logical issue - any advice on how to register this?

2024-10-01 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
I concur in part. In a "hobby", expenses are no longer deductible to the extent of income, as you said, I did not say that. I said expenses not deductible beyond the extent of income (a hobby can generate a taxable profit but not a deducible loss). For example, if you had both a business

Re: [GNC] Monthly Reports

2024-09-18 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
On 9/17/2024 8:46 PM, Phyllis Bruce wrote: As the treasurer of a small, 5019(c)3 with no liabilities, I set up my Gnucash file in the same order as I will present my monthly reports. I have v 5.8+ and Windows 11. After much trial and error I was able to get an account summary for 6/30/2024. My

Re: [GNC] Database storage

2024-09-19 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
However the behavior of autosave is a pet peeve of mine. The behavior I would like to see is for gnucash to have two states, "not in the middle of entering a transaction" an "in the middle of entering a transaction"  I want autosave to pop up only when in the first state (if the timer goes off

Re: [GNC] Database storage

2024-09-19 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
On 9/19/2024 11:16 AM, Roberts K wrote: In my experience the amount of data is relatively small (even for thousands of records) A bit of historical perspective is needed, particularly because our heads have not yet absorbed a fundamental change in technology. Back in my working days, the IBM

Re: [GNC] Owning stocks which are not publicly quoted - which account type suits better?

2024-09-25 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
On 9/24/2024 8:23 PM, R Losey wrote: I think it could still be a stock - you'll just need to make sure the settings are correct -- and, of course, you cannot update the price online. Dividends fall into three categories that I can think of (and I'm using what I need for the US; not sure about yo

Re: [GNC] Another "multi-account" logical issue - any advice on how to register this?

2024-10-02 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
However, I always considered shipping costs as part of the goods value. I thought "I paid 220 for this guitar, even though 20 are for shipping, so to me it's worth 220" (I know this is wrong, because shipping doesn't add value to the goods). "Shipping cost" has added to the value of goods for tho

Re: [GNC] File Cabinet, 3-Ring Binders, Paper Records?

2024-11-06 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
I try to avoid all the go-green, switch to digital statement appeals because I get so much junk in my email that it's hard to find the relevant/important stuff. I like getting statements etc. as paper mail. If using email (as opposed to webmail) your email client might be able to help with this

Re: [GNC] Tutorial and Concepts

2024-11-24 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
On 11/24/2024 12:04 AM, R Losey wrote: Now this puzzles me... double entry bookkeeping is double bookkeeping, whether a transaction has the simple case of "used my credit card to buy gas" or a transaction with a dozen accounts (such as a paycheck, with deductions for 401K, medical insurance, de

Re: [GNC] Why is part of a split registered as "rebate" in the Transfer account?

2024-11-25 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
On 11/25/2024 12:25 PM, Boniforti Flavio wrote: Hi David. No taxation and regulations needed here: I'm a private individual, not a business. It's why we can't advise on stuff like THAT. The rules depend on jurisdiction as well as status. Here in the US technically status does not matter (in th

Re: [GNC] Why is part of a split registered as "rebate" in the Transfer account?

2024-11-25 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
Thanks anyways - probably it's best for me not to try and put everything from this sale into one transaction (with multiple splits). I'm not understanding how to make it work :-( It will look weird, but I could enter 3 transactions of "income" into my checking account: 800 (which I use to "zer

Re: [GNC] "Split" Button not showing - Only "Show Splits"

2024-11-29 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
On 11/26/2024 9:14 PM, ross.la...@gmail.com wrote: I have looked everywhere for a solution. What Am I doing wrong. OS is Win11 I haven't a clue because you haven't said what you did, what happened, and what did you expect to happen? Michael D Novack _

Re: [GNC] GNU Cash Manual

2024-11-18 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
On 11/17/2024 12:15 PM, David L wrote: Hello, I am just starting to use GNU Cash, and of couse, I have a few questions. 1. Does the Manual exist in a pdf format? Please send me a link, or a pdf. 2. I would like to be able to make entries for "Paid in Capital." How do I get sta

Re: [GNC] journal report is missing balance totals

2024-11-18 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
My general journal report has debits and credits but no balance entries. As well, I can't get a proper year to date report for 2024 when I have good ones for 2021-2023. The general ledger file is fine. The only one off is the general journal report. Any advice? Thanks. T

Re: [GNC] Dealing with mutual funds

2024-11-09 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
On 11/9/2024 6:58 AM, Boniforti Flavio wrote: \ *USD Dividends* You're right, it was not at the right place. I moved it under "Income". When I get paid dividends, how should I register this transaction? Do I increase both the "Income:USD Dividends" and the "Assets:IBKR:USD Cash" accounts? The l

Re: [GNC] 1099's

2024-11-16 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
A question: If a contractor did three different jobs during the year, and ALL of the invoices were under $1,000 (but together they sum to over $1000), would a 1099 still need to be issued? YES --- which is why I described "data needed" the way that I did. Michael D Novack

Re: [GNC] Closing out QB Pro?!

2024-11-16 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
On 11/16/2024 12:01 PM, R Losey wrote: I believe that QB lets you export the data in some form, and GnuCash will import that. Sorry to be so general, but I didn't import data; I just started fresh with GnuCash. But I believe that the process is documented in the GnuCash material. All apps SHOUL

Re: [GNC] Account Register not Populating

2024-11-15 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
On 11/14/2024 9:34 PM, R Losey wrote: I'm glad your accounts are there with your data. As other people noted, the Saved Reports are not stored with the saved data; they are part of the user configuration. I think we should keep in mind that there are two (rather different) meanings for which

Re: [GNC] Why is part of a split registered as "rebate" in the Transfer account?

2024-11-23 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
On 11/23/2024 7:58 AM, Boniforti Flavio wrote: Hi Richard. It's one payment I got from the buyer, which includes both the value of the goods and the shipping costs. F. It would have helped me give you advice had you said that earlier. Except you DID say that you had deposited the (entire) paym

Re: [GNC] Tutorial and Concepts

2024-11-23 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
I have not been saying need to know much about double entry bookkeeping TO GET STARTED USING GNUCASH and the new user won't have to do much with equity beyond opening entries if never "closing the books" << much EXPLICITLY with equity -- accounts of type "income" and "expense" are actually type

Re: [GNC] Windows 11 Reports Blank

2024-11-26 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
On 11/26/2024 6:45 AM, Keith W Jones wrote: No further forward with this, so I have reported it as a bug. Strange no one else is reporting the same issue. Which is why you report HERE first. If you are sure other people are using the feature but nobody else is reporting the same issue, then le

Re: [GNC] Closing out QB Pro?!

2024-11-16 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
Is it better on hardware or a VM, does anyone build it on a docker container with its own database? Thank you everyone, Best, John "is it better on hardware?" LOL, it has been a LONG time since anybody has been running programs "on hardware". Quite likely before you were born. You are

Re: [GNC] 1099's

2024-11-16 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
On 11/16/2024 8:20 AM, halatch1008 via gnucash-user wrote: I still can Not find answer on how to select my Vendors to print a list of my Vendors who I need to send 1099's You mean an automated way? Let's first analyze the DATA you need to make the determination. You need a list of vendors to

Re: [GNC] Transfer between two account files and Hierarchy

2024-12-01 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
On 12/1/2024 1:58 PM, Grace wrote: My situation is that I have personal accounts (CAD), a small business account (USD) and some trading accounts (CAD and USD). I think I already know the answer, but is it possible to have a transaction across any two of the separate files, i.e. pay salary from

Re: [GNC] How to restore a previous backup?

2024-12-05 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
On December 3, 2024 21:43:06 Billie Chandler wrote: I need to restore yesterday's backup. How do i do that? How do you restore any other data? What is your procedure doing backups? Are you doing them daily? (the way you worded your question implies that a back-up of yesterday exists) L

Re: [GNC] Saved report configurations

2024-12-04 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
On 12/3/2024 7:50 PM, Jim DeLaHunt wrote: John: [adding the gnucash-user list back to the cc:] I'm glad that solved it for you.p BUT --- this might be a good place to mention that this sort of problem is a CONSEQUENCE of a choice "how do I backup?" or "how do I move data to a new computer?"

Re: [GNC] Accounting for Income and Expenses from Multiple Business Locations

2024-12-08 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
On 12/7/2024 8:48 PM, Stephen M. Butler wrote: Are there intra-city transactions?  If not, the simple solution is to have one set of books per store.  However, that does make it hard to roll up to a grand total for the entire business. Well, there are pros and cons. You'd want to take into acc

Re: [GNC] Accounting for Income and Expenses from Multiple Business Locations PS

2024-12-08 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
I think I should add - I am pretty sure that "cost of goods sold" is related only to goods being sold. Yes of course, when providing a service there may well be costs from consumables used in that service. But how  you account for those costs (when "expensed") is different. Thus -- the sal

Re: [GNC] Newbie

2024-12-07 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
On 12/7/2024 1:23 PM, Mike Evans wrote: I am switching from a desktop pc to a windows 11 laptop and cannot get it to work. The program downloaded but I dont know how to move the files to the new location. Can anyone walk me through this. I am not very computer literate. Mike Your problem is NO

Re: [GNC] Scheduled transactions cannot be processed if first in list has not had variable completed.

2024-12-28 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
On 12/28/2024 3:10 AM, sunfish62--- via gnucash-user wrote: I'll simply chime in to confirm David's reply and Richard's observation. The "all or nothing" approach here is counterintuitive and unhelpful. I've generally avoided using variable based scheduled transactions for this reason. It's ano

Re: [GNC] Income earned in gold

2025-01-02 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
On 1/2/2025 11:24 AM, Fred Tydeman wrote: I have an investment in gold (so many ounces). That investment earns "interest" payable in gold (not USD). When I try to setup a new Income account, the only Namespace offered is Currencies. If I try to add a fake currency of Gold, I do not get the Curren

Re: [GNC] How to treat IRA distribution as income

2024-12-27 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
On 12/27/2024 1:24 PM, R Losey wrote: I absolutely agree with you that using a dummy account doesn't "feel right"... when I have situations that I don't fully understand, I run into that a lot. I can think of three options: In asking this question (what to do NOW, taking money out) you leaving

Re: [GNC] How to treat IRA distribution as income

2024-12-27 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
On 12/26/2024 11:30 PM, Bob Plantz wrote: I realize that an IRA distribution is not income, but the (USA) IRS treats it as income. My IRA is in a mutual fund, and I sell shares to create a distribution. The bulk of the money from that sale goes into my bank account, another portion goes to the

Re: [GNC] Linux and Windows using same data? (Ze'ev Ionis)

2024-12-29 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
An alternative which avoids depending on any sort of external services is to use syncthing. This can synchronise files directly from a Linux system to a Windows s... The only thing you mustn't do, of course, is to run GnuCash on both systems at the same time. I would NOT consider a storage d

Re: [GNC] Issues Importing CSVs

2025-02-04 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
On 2/4/2025 10:11 AM, Paul Kroitor wrote: I regularly have to transfer large batches of transactions from one set of existing books into another. Basically party A pays dozens of expenses for party B, then rebills B quarterly a lump sum total. I am temporarily ignoring your standard process to

Re: [GNC] URGENT help needed

2025-02-08 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
On 2/8/2025 10:40 AM, bullish bob bagley via gnucash-user wrote: I get this message too and so far if i click open anyway, i am so far so good.  BUT is there a better way to shut down the gnucash so that it is saved to a file i have on record with GNU Cash?  It pays to read that other people ha

Re: [GNC] Print Accounts

2025-02-02 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
On 2/2/2025 7:39 AM, bullish bob bagley via gnucash-user wrote: Wow! this really works, but you are so right---it is a very ugly baby  Can you make as good a suggestion to as easily format it as a pretty Chart of Accounts tree? Do "pretty printing" OUTSIDE the application. For exa

Re: [GNC] Print Accounts

2025-02-02 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
On 2/2/2025 1:27 PM, sunfish62--- via gnucash-user wrote: I still don't get it. Doesn't the Balance Sheet allow you to display all accounts in the hierarchy? ⁣David T.​ No. It shows all accounts of types Asset, Liability, and Equity. It includes a virtual account for the net balance of type

Re: [GNC] Print Accounts

2025-02-02 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
On 2/2/2025 1:39 PM, sunfis...@yahoo.com wrote: Indeed. You can select the accounts, but they don't display in the report. Ah well. Perhaps someone with Scheme knowledge could modify the Balance Sheet to include all accounts. ⁣David T.​ Then it would NOT be a Balance Sheet. If it included th

Re: [GNC] Print Accounts

2025-02-02 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
On 2/2/2025 2:33 AM, sunfish62--- via gnucash-user wrote: By which Derek means to imply that there isn't a report explicitly for the Chart of Accounts. Perhaps a Balance Sheet would help? ⁣David T.​ A Balance Sheet will only show the "standing accounts" (fundamental types Asset, Liability,

Re: [GNC] Asset Allocation by Sector

2025-01-31 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
On 1/31/2025 7:31 AM, rsbrux via gnucash-user wrote: I have been using GC for years for all of my bookkeeping, including investment tracking. I have managed to make rudimentary Asset Allocation reports for the major investment types (stocks, bonds, funds, etc.) but would like to also monitor t

Re: [GNC] Newbie

2024-12-10 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
On 12/10/2024 2:55 PM, Jack Lockard wrote: There are software applications that will supposedly do this type of transfer. I used one onetime and the results were less than spectacular. I would not recommend that route. The folder structure on Win10 and Win11 are the same. Unless you changed i

Re: [GNC] transaction report I think

2024-12-16 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
What I would like the report to show is on deposits rather than accounts receivable show I would like the Dues account to show or the appropriate income transfer account. Ah, you have run into the difficulty of using stuff intended for "accrual basis accounting", but like many orgs you want

Re: [GNC] How can I record reinvestment of Treasury securities?

2024-12-16 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
What I would really like to see is an actual screen shot showing how to enter the various pieces of a transaction that involves the return of the par value of the bond, the assignment of interest, the purchase of the replacement bond once the auction determines the price to be paid. First, u

Re: [GNC] How can I record reinvestment of Treasury securities?

2024-12-17 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
On 12/16/2024 9:38 PM, Art Chimes wrote: Thanks for the quick reply. I'm struggling to get the complete picture into one transaction. Mainly because I think of it as one transaction (albeit one that technically takes place over a period of days, but also because it seems more elegant that way. I

Re: [GNC] ANNOUNCE: GnuCash 5.10 Released

2024-12-18 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
On 12/17/2024 11:01 PM, John Ralls wrote: I’d made an error when I wrote bit in the bundler script that derives the version to pass to the setup-generator: It gets the release instal directories, sorts them, and grabs the last one. The problem with that is that it’s a lexical sort so if say 5.

Re: [GNC] Move GC settings

2024-12-14 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
On 12/14/2024 10:32 AM, . wrote: I'm running Debian 12 and have two versions of GC on my machine. I want to move my present GC (version 4.13) settings including reports  to be used on the other (version 5.9) Exactly, how do I do it?  (the "migrate" wiki is not helpful for me) Thanks, Peter

Re: [GNC] Placeholder accounts not totaling on reports

2024-12-19 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
Instead of addressing your problem/question in terms of a specific answer, I strongly suggest you (or any new gnucash user) EXPLORE all the options available to you for every report you intend to use. Things like show totals before or after (or both) are OPTIONS. Gnucash is a little strange in

Re: [GNC] ANNOUNCE: GnuCash 5.10 Released

2024-12-19 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
Description of solution: You have strings with format  Vm.n.o  where m,n, and o are alphameric expressions of a number. Convert these strings to format Vx.y.z where x, y, and z are numeric expressions  numbers (one byte length will be plenty if binary, two if BCD)) In other words, you need

Re: [GNC] ANNOUNCE: GnuCash 5.10 Released

2024-12-20 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
On 12/19/2024 9:24 PM, Danny Siminiuk wrote: It would be really polite if there were an issue or bug that required discussion if that could be started on a new topic rather the "ANNOUNCE" topic. Asking for a friend. :) The connection to the original matter perhaps unclear to the non-technical

Re: [GNC] ANNOUNCE: GnuCash 5.10 Released

2024-12-19 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
Yeah, but the problem isn’t on ‘nix, it’s on Windows and specifically in PowerShell. Regards, John Ralls Although I have never looked at this shell language before, I suspect "complete". Going to the formal language definition, it clearly makes provision for conversion of numbers expressed as

Re: [GNC] ANNOUNCE: GnuCash 5.10 Released

2024-12-19 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
Look --- it is NOT hard (using bash or whatever 'nix shell you prefer) to convert a string (whose characters represent a number) to a number. LOL, these days you can even look up how on the web. "10" is a string representing the number ten. It is not the NUMBER ten. Look up what the bash opera

Re: [GNC] Liabilities vs Expenses.

2024-11-22 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
Liabilities accounts are used to record money you’re going to have to pay at some time in the future, and I use them from credit and debit cards in my personal Gnucash accounts. That's a good way for folks doing personal accounting to look at it as less likely to have a CONDITIONAL liabilit

Re: [GNC] Why is part of a split registered as "rebate" in the Transfer account?

2024-11-22 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
On 11/22/2024 12:35 PM, R Losey wrote: Michael - That was a very good "stepping back" explanation. I think he is trying to record the shipping expenses both as shipping "Expense" and also have a reduction in the Income from the sale. Agreed, that's where the error is coming from. Can't have i

Re: [GNC] Why is part of a split registered as "rebate" in the Transfer account?

2024-11-21 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
Two things a) When wanting to show us a "split" transaction (more than two accounts affected) it would make more sense to show it in "journal mode". That's the way you see it when entering a split transaction, all the affected accounts at the same time. b) I'm not going to comment on the supp

Re: [GNC] Why is part of a split registered as "rebate" in the Transfer account?

2024-11-21 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
On 11/21/2024 5:39 PM, David Cousens wrote: Boniforti, The entries to record the sale of the instrument would be Asset:Checking Account Dr 1214.00 EU Assets:Current Assets:Music Equipment EUR:Korg MS-20M Cr 800.00 EU Expense:Shipping

Re: [GNC] Why is part of a split registered as "rebate" in the Transfer account?

2024-11-22 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
On 11/21/2024 6:32 PM, Boniforti Flavio wrote: Hi Michael. Thanks for your message. You mean this type of view? image.png F. The view is right, but the transaction isn't. The problem is that accounts of type income and expense are on opposite sides of the ledger. Let's step back for a bit a

Re: [GNC] Why is part of a split registered as "rebate" in the Transfer account?

2024-11-22 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
On 11/21/2024 9:52 PM, R Losey wrote: Expense accounts, because they are usually only increased, just have Expenses for debits. The credit is called a "Rebate". I don't know if you meant to make that account an expense account. I don't see an Income anywhere in the list. Your asset should have

Re: [GNC] Closing out QB Pro?!

2024-11-17 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
I will also note that while there is information online about Quicken's *other* formats, there is nothing about how a QBX file is structured. This suggests that OP will not find any help with converting into a GnuCash friendly format. Please ... watch the distinction between "Quicken" and "

Re: [GNC] Tutorial and Concepts

2024-11-23 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
On 11/23/2024 9:15 AM, R Losey wrote: I changed the subject because I want to start a discussion regarding the below comment, which regularly appears in this group (I am not throwing rocks at Stan). Sometimes, it is not a matter of understanding double-entry accounting or bookkeeping, but much m

Re: [GNC] My Bad! My balance column disappeared . . .

2024-11-23 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
On 11/23/2024 3:01 AM, sunfish62--- via gnucash-user wrote: It bears repeating: the folder on Windows in which the gcm files live (c:\Users\{USERNAME}\AppData\Roaming\GnuCash) is hidden by default. File Explorer won't show it, and won't return it as a search result. The About dialog since at l

Re: [GNC] Modifying the Register

2024-12-22 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
If you wanted to reorder the splits, it appears that GnuCash always sorts them so that the debits are first and the credits afterwards. When there are multiple debits or credits, I cannot tell how or why GnuCash sorts them as it does. The HOW gnucash sorts transactions (entered in "journal form

Re: [GNC] How do i select my checking acct to be able to print it transaction report? Under: reports, transaction report: No acct selected????????

2025-01-11 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
We probably need to keep pointing this out to people new to gnucash because it is counter-intuitive (being backwards) With gnucash you FIRST "run" a report, which brings the report up with default settings. Then you use edit=>report options to select the options that you want for this run of t

Re: [GNC] How to post "In Kind" donations

2025-01-19 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
On 1/18/2025 5:33 PM, Ross Laver wrote: I am the treasurer of a fraternal organization. I want to track "In Kind" donations for budgeting purposes. EXAMPLE: someone purchases postage and does not want to be reimbursed. Postage is a legitimate expense. Please help! Ross a) donor pays an expens

Re: [GNC] what is best procedure to 'split off' to a new set of books?

2025-01-19 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
You also own the business. I would set up an account in Equity in your personal accounts "Contributions to xyz business" and a similar Equity account in the business books "Owners contributions". More generally, you own part of this business. Why under Equity? Why different from any other i

Re: [GNC] Accoount Type Cash

2025-01-19 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
On 1/19/2025 9:14 AM, Fred Tydeman wrote: I am running GnuCash 5.10 on Fedora Linux 41 My Default Currency is USD I imported from a QIF file some stock transactions. I sold some Canada stock from my US brokerage account. The money went into a CAD cash account in the brokerage. The "dollar" amou

Re: [GNC] what is best reconcile/update procedure?

2025-01-19 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
RECONCILE means check one against another (and resolve any differences) If you are ENTERING transactions into your books by migrating in a bank statement or credit card statement you are not reconciling. I guarantee will always match. What you SHOULD be looking for are transactions the bank ha

Re: [GNC] Simple report(s) wanted

2025-01-22 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
On 1/22/2025 10:27 AM, Christopher Lam wrote: Try the Transaction Report. Select your desired bank account in *Accounts / Accounts* Ensure the *Display / Account Balance* is ticked. Select your desired time period in *General / Start-End Date* I realize what literally was asked about was "bank

Re: [GNC] Simple report(s) wanted

2025-01-21 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
On 1/21/2025 6:02 AM, Chris Green wrote: I need to present our PCC/Church accounts to the PCC (Parochial Church Council) three or four times a year. Every time I do this I struggle to find a report which simply shows the bank balance at the start of the period, where money came in from, where mo

Re: [GNC] You do not have permission to access C:\...........\Bruce.gnucash

2025-01-21 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
I actually have two files - a personal one as subject and another for an organization where I am the treasurer. Both are appearing in the same log directory. Is that correct? It could be correct IF (for some bizarre reason) you had both data files (both sets of books) in the same directory.

Re: [GNC] porting Gnucash from W10 to Linux Mint

2025-01-24 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
On 1/23/2025 11:32 PM, sunfish62--- via gnucash-user wrote: With regard to downgrading, note that there have been several points in GnuCash history where the data structures were changed that make downgrading difficult if not impossible. I cannot put my finger on the chart that notes those jump

Re: [GNC] Report Generation problem

2025-01-24 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
On 1/23/2025 3:34 PM, Colin Penner wrote: I want to switch from Quicken to Gnu-Cash. The only problem that I have is that Gnu-Cash Balance Sheet reports include a line of either "Retained Earnings" or "Retained Liabilities". For my requirements I MUST eliminate both of these lines. Is there any

Re: [GNC] what is best procedure to 'split off' to a new set of books?

2025-01-20 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
equity transfer from the personal books to the business books. David On Sun, 2025-01-19 at 10:24 -0500, Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash- user wrote: You also own the business. I would set up an account in Equity in your personal accounts "Contributions to xyz business" and a sim

Re: [GNC] what is best procedure to 'split off' to a new set of books?

2025-01-20 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
On 1/20/2025 3:36 PM, David Cousens wrote: Michael, you have convinced me that it does make more sense to treat the contributions as an asset rather than a reduction in equity. David "Contributions?    I am confused. On the books of these businesses, equity represents the ownership interes

Re: [GNC] Report Generation problem

2025-01-25 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
//I will repeat, the "net retained earnings" (or losses) appearing on the Balance Sheet is the NET of all income and expense accounts. Those are temporary accounts of fundamental type equity but not yet incorporated into an actual equity account BECAUSE THE BOOKS HAVE NOT (YET) BEEN CLOSED. Tha

Re: [GNC] support for a new company

2025-01-13 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
On 1/13/2025 3:18 PM, bullish bob bagley via gnucash-user wrote: On the equity side of my balance sheet How do i set up my beginning numbers  (i followed your instructions to do the equity opening balances for my bank accts) for my Equity Entries     Capital Stock     Add Paid in Capital     R

Re: [GNC] screwed up my cash acount

2025-01-13 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
On 1/13/2025 12:51 PM, Steve Butler wrote: Make liberal use of FILE: SAVE AS. The default has backups made automatically using your file name as the base name then adding date and timestamp. There are stored in the same place as your file. It also stores log files there in a similar manner wi

Re: [GNC] support for a new company

2025-01-13 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
On 1/13/2025 6:13 PM, bullish bob bagley via gnucash-user wrote: b.  we started in 1989.  been with qb for decades.moved to linux and want to stay with gnucash., paid in cash is because i make a lot of market mistakes,     net income--I put the ? there because I wasn't sure of the net incom

Re: [GNC] screwed up my cash acount

2025-01-13 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
On 1/13/2025 12:37 PM, bullish bob bagley via gnucash-user wrote: ok mark, how do you make a backup in gnucash?  extremely new to it.  Thank you How do you make a backup of all the other user data on your computer? <> You should not be looking at different backup of user data from each appl

Re: [GNC] Income earned in gold

2025-01-02 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
On 1/2/2025 3:14 PM, Derek Atkins wrote: Bitcoin isn't technically a currency. -derek Neither, in the US, is gold. Back in the 1930's when we went off "the gold standard" it became illegal to contractually require payment in gold. Existing contracts had that part declared null and void. LOL, a

Re: [GNC] Modifying the Register

2024-12-23 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
"Closing the books" is a formal accounting procedure originating primarily in the days of manual accounting in paper ledgers. As others have pointed out, Gnucash carries out the necessary calculations in its reports so there is no real need to carry out the formal procedure. For the (VERY COMMON

Re: [GNC] When importing an account tree from a csv file, account type information disappears

2025-01-08 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
On 1/8/2025 5:52 PM, ha...@finne.net wrote: I am a new GnuCash user. I have several problems when trying to import an account tree from an accounting program (Mamut Datax) I have used before. One of these problems can be described as follows. I export the account structure from my MD system to

Re: [GNC] Log File?

2025-01-17 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
On 1/17/2025 5:50 AM, Geoff wrote: Hi John, and welcome to the wonderful world of GunCash! To answer your question: > Each time I close the program a .log file appears on my > desktop.  How do I stop this? Edit -> Preferences -> General -> Retain log/backup files -> Never Perhaps more to th

Re: [GNC] Log File?

2025-01-17 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
On 1/17/2025 12:47 PM, William Prescott wrote: While I agree that it seems somewhat unusual to save data files to the desk top, I take exception to any generalization about how people use the desktop. Personally, I don't put anything on it, and find it odd when I see someone's machine with row

Re: [GNC] screwed up my cash acount

2025-01-15 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
On 1/14/2025 8:12 PM, Kalpesh Patel wrote: See https://storware.eu/blog/grandfather-father-son-gfs-backup/ for very popular backup scheme. I advocate backing up the entire system - not just bits here and bytes there. Even with modern electronics in the hard drives (spinning platter ones or the

Re: [GNC] Importing CC Transactions, Positive or Negative, Debit or Credit?

2025-01-16 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
The statement from the credit card company is likely from THEIR point of view. Just like the statement of your bank account you get from your bank is from their point of view. What you owe them is a credit in your books but a debit in theirs. What money they owe you is a debit in your books an

Re: [GNC] confusion on new fields in csv import

2025-02-09 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user
On 2/9/2025 5:11 AM, David Cousens wrote: David I think the main issue is there is no well defined protocol/standard for CSV data and the importer does not know where the CSV file originates and whether the data is presented from the perspective of the entity which provided the data or that of t

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