Re: Corporate Contribution [Blondie's Parallel Lines...]

2011-06-02 Thread Sam Ruby
nize that any resulting project at the Apache Software >> Foundation would be the effort of individuals, not companies per say. >> So these two answers would go a long way to ensure that the long term >> project health is not beholden to Oracle's absence, or any threat of >>

Re: Volunteering for the Apache OpenOffice podling?

2011-06-03 Thread Sam Ruby
bes, and a second that reflects the individual's public name. The latter is often not on the ICLA. I'll also note that this particular Phillip spells his name with two 'l's. I've made the necessary corrections, both to the file name and to iclas.txt. > Craig - Sam R

Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal: Splitting the Community?

2011-06-03 Thread Sam Ruby
rictionless exchange of code between the various groups. - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal: Splitting the Community?

2011-06-03 Thread Sam Ruby
possible, and all sorts of divisions of labor could be contemplated. In fact, the division of labor could be dynamic in that we could experiment with all sorts of different arrangements and find out what works best. - Sam Ruby --

Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal: Splitting the Community?

2011-06-03 Thread Sam Ruby
. > If we wanted to we could specify a time/date/event > upon which that license terminates, and the "new" > stuff going on at the ASF would be distributing code > under the mark. Just remember, we haven't yet even voted on whether or not to accept the podling. These are de

Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal: Splitting the Community?

2011-06-03 Thread Sam Ruby
and send in an ICLA and commit these changes themselves once the project arrives here; at which point the TDF has a clean base upon which to build. > S. - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache

Re: "opportunity to reunite the related communities" Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal: Splitting the Community?

2011-06-03 Thread Sam Ruby
enses/quick-guide-gplv3-compatibility.png > Robert - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal: Splitting the Community?

2011-06-03 Thread Sam Ruby
gt; just for showing up. This email has no place on this list. Take it elsewhere. - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: "opportunity to reunite the related communities" Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal: Splitting the Community?

2011-06-03 Thread Sam Ruby
definitely like to see the proposal explain whether this would be >> possible and practical. >> > > More than that, I'd like to see it as an objective to facilitate this > collaboration. There's too much talk of just giving up and treating > ideological div

Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal: Splitting the Community?

2011-06-03 Thread Sam Ruby
Whoops. Forgot to copy the list. On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 2:30 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. > wrote: >> On 6/3/2011 1:17 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: >>> >>> Are you ready to call for a vote? :) > > No; there are som

Re: Proposal for OpenOffice Incubator strategy

2011-06-03 Thread Sam Ruby
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Simon Phipps wrote: > On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 7:42 PM, Greg Stein wrote: > >> When I read Jim's email, I took it to mean your tweets[1]. Not your >> emails to this list. > > Greg:  I am being told by Sam Ruby to not talk about these t

Re: "opportunity to reunite the related communities" Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal: Splitting the Community?

2011-06-03 Thread Sam Ruby
all participants: don't see this apology as an invitation to return to the use of such inflammatory language. This situation isn't one that any of us here invited, and will be hard enough to resolve without such invectives. > S. - Sam Ruby ---

Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal: Splitting the Community?

2011-06-03 Thread Sam Ruby
h, but I do agree that we should wait until some of the more active threads become dormant. - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: Apache OpenOffice.org Incubator Proposal: Collaboration with TDF/LO

2011-06-03 Thread Sam Ruby
y to add such a tone to the proposal. > > What do you think? The reason it is a wiki is exactly for this reason. Go for it! > Cheers > Daniel - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apach

Re: A possibly gratuitous meta- thread on the open office discussion

2011-06-03 Thread Sam Ruby
t and concern and focus attention onto them and away from > everything else. - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal: Splitting the Community?

2011-06-03 Thread Sam Ruby
hange your mind! > Danese - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: Apache OpenOffice.org Incubator Proposal: Collaboration with TDF/LO

2011-06-03 Thread Sam Ruby
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 4:48 PM, Simon Phipps wrote: > On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 9:46 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > >> On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 4:11 PM, dsh wrote: >> > >> > Besides that, I was asking myself why Rob is the only one who could >> > add such a tone to th

Re: Apache OpenOffice.org Incubator Proposal: Collaboration with TDF/LO

2011-06-03 Thread Sam Ruby
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Simon Phipps wrote: > On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 10:17 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > >> On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 4:48 PM, Simon Phipps wrote: >> > On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 9:46 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: >> > >> >> On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 4:11

Re: Apache OpenOffice.org Incubator Proposal: Collaboration with TDF/LO

2011-06-03 Thread Sam Ruby
a bit of a telephone game where what I thought I said and what ultimately resulted after passing through several people's retelling is not recognizable to me. My principles were to suggest that people focus on what they bring to the table, and to and to actively seek out others and get THEM to identify what they bring to the table. Again, the end result clearly did not come out that way, and I will see what I can do to rectify that. - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: Apache OpenOffice.org Incubator Proposal: Collaboration with TDF/LO

2011-06-03 Thread Sam Ruby
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Leif Hedstrom wrote: > On Jun 3, 2011, at 3:50 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > >> There are two common patterns at the ASF: RTC and CTR, which are >> Review The Commit and Commit Then Review.  Most places operate with a >> CTR policy. > > I

Re: OpenOffice and the ASF

2011-06-03 Thread Sam Ruby
. Nor am I going to ask anyone to change their choice in licenses. However I will state that in cases where widespread use of the code is vital for advancing the cause of free software that the Apache License, Version 2.0 is an appropriate choice: http://www.

Re: TDF/LO, what is the art of the possible?

2011-06-03 Thread Sam Ruby
are welcome to pick up the entire list and respond in either or both venues if they prefer. - Sam Ruby [1] http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/msg01052.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: ge

Re: Blondie's Parallel Lines...

2011-06-04 Thread Sam Ruby
scuss mailing list with a similar request: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/msg01055.html > Norbert - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: Apache OpenOffice.org Incubator Proposal: Collaboration with TDF/LO

2011-06-04 Thread Sam Ruby
her complements that might apply in other situations. > Cheers, > -g > > "It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is" >  -- Mr Clinton Cute quote, but the license question still remains. - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Licensing Q's [was: Incubator Proposal]

2011-06-04 Thread Sam Ruby
ssive ideals, and they are also modern, > well-considered licenses. I'm not sure the question has come up, so we > have no policy that I'm aware of. CC-by 2.5 is listed as acceptable: http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#ca

Re: OpenOffice.org: Question to IBM regarding license of Lotus Symphony

2011-06-04 Thread Sam Ruby
ersion 2.0 is not an appropriate choice in this situation? - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: OpenOffice and the ASF

2011-06-04 Thread Sam Ruby
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 6:32 AM, Simon Phipps wrote: > On Jun 4, 2011 2:03 AM, "Sam Ruby" wrote: >> However I >> will state that in cases where widespread use of the code is vital for >> advancing the cause of free software that the Apache License, Version

Re: Apache OpenOffice.org Incubator Proposal: Collaboration with TDF/LO

2011-06-04 Thread Sam Ruby
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 7:43 AM, Simon Phipps wrote: > > On 4 Jun 2011, at 12:19, Sam Ruby wrote: >> >>> >> LibreOffice complements anything we do here at Apache to those who >> agree with the license terms under which LibreOffice is made >> available.  U

Re: OpenOffice and the ASF

2011-06-04 Thread Sam Ruby
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 7:46 AM, Simon Phipps wrote: > > On 4 Jun 2011, at 12:38, Sam Ruby wrote: > >> On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 6:32 AM, Simon Phipps wrote: >>> On Jun 4, 2011 2:03 AM, "Sam Ruby" wrote: >>>> However I >>>> will state t

Re: OpenOffice.org: Question to IBM regarding license of Lotus Symphony

2011-06-04 Thread Sam Ruby
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 8:30 AM, Cor Nouws wrote: > Sam Ruby wrote (04-06-11 13:35) >> >> On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 6:24 AM, Andreas Kuckartz >>  wrote: > >>> If yes: which licenses would IBM be willing to consider ? >> >> Is there any reason to believe t

Re: Build machines: external or colocated?

2011-06-04 Thread Sam Ruby
is important to realize is that our system administrative staff understandably wishes to constrain the number of different types of operating systems that they use. > Regards, > > -Rob - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: gene

Re: OpenOffice.org: Question to IBM regarding license of Lotus Symphony

2011-06-04 Thread Sam Ruby
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 9:35 AM, wrote: > I'd be satisfied to merely not have the project's potential existence > portrayed as a disease that must be eradicated from the face of the earth. This type of rhetorical flourish does not lead to mutual cooperation. Take it elsewh

Re: OpenOffice.org: Question to IBM regarding license of Lotus Symphony

2011-06-04 Thread Sam Ruby
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Andreas Kuckartz wrote: > Am 04.06.2011 16:00, schrieb Sam Ruby: >> While other choices may make sense depending on the >> specific circumstances, a necessary consequence of making a choice >> that does not cast the widest possible net is fr

Re: Build machines: external or colocated?

2011-06-04 Thread Sam Ruby
e at >> infrastructure@a.o, but I'm considering mentoring this podling to help bridge >> any gaps. > > I think it would be invaluable to OO for you to be a mentor, so I hope you do. +1. And not just to help br

Re: OpenOffice.org: Question to IBM regarding license of Lotus Symphony

2011-06-04 Thread Sam Ruby
each of has said (or failed to say) publicly behind us. - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: TDF/LO, what is the art of the possible?

2011-06-04 Thread Sam Ruby
issue. On the subject of licenses I *can* speak authoritatively on behalf of the ASF. I've engaged in the discussion both here and on the documentfoundation.org lists. The best summary I am aware of to date on this issue can be found at: http://s.apache.org/lY > -Rob - Sam Ruby --

Re: TDF/LO, what is the art of the possible?

2011-06-04 Thread Sam Ruby
n by those same individuals, so your questionnaire seems > counterproductive and destined to add antagonism, rather than remove some, > and I'd suggest you withdraw it. Our emails may have crossed in the ether. My suggestion is that I take ownership of this question. I will state that

Re: OO/LO License

2011-06-04 Thread Sam Ruby
://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-x http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-b http://www.gnu.org/licenses/quick-guide-gplv3-compatibility.png >  - Dennis - Sam Ruby

Re: OO/LO License

2011-06-04 Thread Sam Ruby
efinition of what the Apache Software Foundation produces. It sets an expectation of what our users can expect from us. Further details here: http://www.apache.org/legal/ramblings.html > Regards, > Dave Fisher - Sam Ruby ---

List of files covered by the OpenOffice grant

2011-06-05 Thread Sam Ruby
authoritative. Without further ado, here are the list of files: http://people.apache.org/~rubys/openoffice.files.txt I do not recommend accessing this page via a dialup connection as this list alone is ~1.75Mb - Sam Ruby - To

Re: OpenOffice.org: Question to IBM regarding license of Lotus Symphony

2011-06-05 Thread Sam Ruby
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 6:42 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: > On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 1:47 PM, Cor Nouws wrote: >> Ian Lynch wrote (04-06-11 14:39) >>> >>> On 4 June 2011 13:30, Cor Nouws  wrote: >>> >>>> Sam Ruby wrote (04-06-11 13:35) >>&g

Re: OpenOffice: were are we now?

2011-06-05 Thread Sam Ruby
is to spill over into early next week I would be fine with that too. > Cheers, > Christian - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

OO.o ICLAs

2011-06-05 Thread Sam Ruby
form and instructions at: http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: TDF/LO, what is the art of the possible?

2011-06-05 Thread Sam Ruby
and consolidate there, choose a > name for the product ...) The ASF is not a consortium. There is no mechanism for a foundation to participate as an entity, only individuals. I agree that naming is an important discussion. - Sam Ruby ---

Re: OpenOffice: were are we now?

2011-06-05 Thread Sam Ruby
elped answer a bunch of questions, and helped negotiate the Software Grant. As near as I can tell, the final decision was made by Oracle as, after all, it is their software that they granted to the ASF. > Florian - Sam Ruby - To

Re: OpenOffice or OpenOffice.org

2011-06-05 Thread Sam Ruby
the first tasks of the PPMC, if and when one gets established. The VP of Brand Management, one or more actual attorneys, myself, and a number of others will assist. > S. - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr

Re: OpenOffice & LibreOffice

2011-06-05 Thread Sam Ruby
to have that license. Stripping the header > off of it, and applying a different license, is a copyright violation. An example of how another project has dealt with this: http://wikis.sun.com/display/GlassFish/Copyrights > -g - Sam Ruby

Re: OpenOffice or OpenOffice.org

2011-06-05 Thread Sam Ruby
ow things work around here. - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: OpenOffice: were are we now?

2011-06-05 Thread Sam Ruby
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 8:39 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote: > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 5:32 AM, Sam Ruby wrote: > >> > I've been asking for reasons since my first e-mail to this list, but you >> > didn't reply so far. So, if you could elaborate on that, I'd r

Re: OpenOffice & LibreOffice

2011-06-05 Thread Sam Ruby
hat make the > whole thing proprietary. People can make Apache code proprietary > somehow, right? That is the big benefit of it. And when I've done > that, I don't have to worry about the old redistribution terms or any > of the old

Re: [OO.o] updated mailing lists in proposal

2011-06-05 Thread Sam Ruby
*before* any project infrastructure is > created. Mention that in the proposal. > -Rob - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: Legal concern: Are we getting to close ot a "division of markets" conversation?

2011-06-06 Thread Sam Ruby
ntributing substantially similar functionality to the ASF under a more liberal license. > Cheers > Daniel - Sam Ruby [1] http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/msg06396.html - To unsubsc

Code covered by the Oracle grant

2011-06-06 Thread Sam Ruby
Forwarding as requested. - Sam Ruby -- Forwarded message -- From: Christian Lohmaier Date: Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 5:45 AM Subject: [tdf-discuss] Code covered by the Oracle grant (was: Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice) To: disc...@documentfoundation.org Hi Sam, *, please

Re: Initial source files (was: OpenOffice: were are we now?)

2011-06-06 Thread Sam Ruby
if they compete with one another. - Sam Ruby > On Jun 6, 2011, at 9:16 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > >> FWIW, IMO it's Sam's call as he is the sponsor.  Jim >> is just trying to avoid a situation where people who >> aren't signed up for the project start placing

Re: Code covered by the Oracle grant

2011-06-06 Thread Sam Ruby
good faith. It is my expectation that if we make reasonable requests and that if those requests are within Oracle's power to fulfill those requests, that we will obtain subsequent software grants. - Sam Ruby - To unsubscrib

Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

2011-06-06 Thread Sam Ruby
hich is why we don't publish them for public inspection. I have already published an extracted list of files. I'm told that there is some line break problems with my extraction methods, and will look into that. - Sam Ruby

Re: OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal

2011-06-06 Thread Sam Ruby
uld need a neutral Chair/Organiser and a suitably egalitarian > agenda, naturally.  Is this worth exploring? Sounds like a rat-hole. I'd suggest that each chair a meeting at their respective venue. Or vice versa. > S. - Sam Ruby ---

Re: List of files covered by the OpenOffice grant

2011-06-06 Thread Sam Ruby
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 6:43 AM, Sam Ruby wrote: > I extracted the text from the Grant.  It needed some minor cleanup > (for example, to remove page numbers).  It is possible that I > introduced errors in the process, but that seems unlikely given how > clean this data was.  In any

Re: List of files covered by the OpenOffice grant

2011-06-06 Thread Sam Ruby
n-integrated work-in-progress patches in the form of CWSs that it would be > important to secure. Michael Meeks collated everyone's input and sent me a > list of them categorised by status, and I've made it available for download: > > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1792694/cws.ods Tha

Re: Code covered by the Oracle grant

2011-06-07 Thread Sam Ruby
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 12:01 AM, Ralph Goers wrote: > > On Jun 6, 2011, at 7:27 AM, Sam Ruby wrote: > >> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Christian Lippka wrote: >>> >>> While the technical analyze here seems (should not use that word) correct my >>>

Re: Code covered by the Oracle grant

2011-06-07 Thread Sam Ruby
y help make any such requests end up with a positive outcome for all concerned. - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: OpenOffice & LibreOffice

2011-06-07 Thread Sam Ruby
y sense continues to be that the best outcome would > be close to my original proposal[1], although that got substantial push-back > from some quarters. I saw pushback from multiple sides. From what I can see, that push-back still exists. Reminding people of this is not going to help. >

Re: OpenOffice & LibreOffice

2011-06-07 Thread Sam Ruby
> > So let's address the push-back. That is not the only push-back, and my suggestion is that we not focus on the differences we have. Let's instead focus on how we can maximize the areas we have in common. - Sam Ruby ---

Re: OpenOffice & LibreOffice

2011-06-07 Thread Sam Ruby
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > Sam Ruby wrote: > >> my suggestion is that we not focus on the differences we have. >> Let's instead focus on how we can maximize the areas we have >> in common. > > Isn't that what: > &g

Re: Code covered by the Oracle grant

2011-06-08 Thread Sam Ruby
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 6:53 AM, Steve Loughran wrote: > > Now, the database with OOo is hsqldb, Java based, so assuming we want to run > this on Apache Harmony, does the Java TCK becomes a test dependency of OOo? No -

Re: Upstream/Downstream (was OpenOffice & LibreOffice)

2011-06-08 Thread Sam Ruby
't.  E.g. that the "ASF representatives" who engage > the TDF community are the Podling PMC members, old hats and newcomers alike, > and that this communication and community bridge-building is delegated to > that podling itself. +1 > But if there are new concerns raise

Vote plans for OOo proposal

2011-06-09 Thread Sam Ruby
rries. Otherwise, the vote fails. If any of this is unclear or if I got anything wrong, please speak up. - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: gene

Re: Remediation ...

2011-06-09 Thread Sam Ruby
the ASF that involve changes to the code base will be done in smoke-free and publicly archived mailing lists. If you have questions relating to prior work done by groups other than the ASF, I encourage you to contact those groups directly.

Re: Remediation ...

2011-06-09 Thread Sam Ruby
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Simon Phipps wrote: > On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > >> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Michael Meeks >> wrote: >> > >> >        IMHO this is vastly preferable to some smoke and lawyer (IANAL) >>

Re: Remediation ...

2011-06-09 Thread Sam Ruby
of all of this is that there will need to be a substantial public aspect to this entire discussion. Yes, I will probably have some private discussions with ASF lawyers over time over this matter, but I can't see any way that we can -- or sho

Re: Remediation ...

2011-06-09 Thread Sam Ruby
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Michael Meeks wrote: > Hi Sam, > > On Thu, 2011-06-09 at 13:54 -0400, Sam Ruby wrote: >> The net of all of this is that there will need to be a substantial >> public aspect to this entire discussion.  Yes, I will probably have >> some p

Re: Remediation ...

2011-06-09 Thread Sam Ruby
nt conclusions as to the relative risk. How we sort this out will depend entirely on the specifics of each instance. - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional command

Re: Remediation ...

2011-06-09 Thread Sam Ruby
verall history of the ASF and how we have dealt with patents in the past and not presume that we will suddenly abandon how we approach such matters. >        HTH, > >                Michael. - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: Remediation ...

2011-06-10 Thread Sam Ruby
d, I will keep the incubator PMC informed. > -- > Nick Kew > > Available for work, contract or permanent > http://www.webthing.com/~nick/cv.html - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: Vote plans for OOo proposal

2011-06-10 Thread Sam Ruby
action. :-) > There's no problem with them joining later, is it? Nope. I intend to proceed as planned. - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

FSF Statement on OpenOffice.org's move to Apache

2011-06-10 Thread Sam Ruby
aph is inaccurate (we haven't even had a vote yet), overall, it appears to be a balanced piece. Providing clear licensing information on extensions is certainly an area for improvement. > Volker > > -- > Volker Merschmann > Member of The Document Foundation > http:

[VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-10 Thread Sam Ruby
/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201106.mbox/browser Please cast your votes: [ ] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation [ ] +0 Indifferent to OpenOffice.org incubation [ ] -1 Reject OpenOffice.org for incubation This vote will close 72 hours from now. - Sam Ruby = OpenOffice.org - An open pro

Re: OpenOffice patent issues (was Remediation ...)

2011-06-10 Thread Sam Ruby
age asking questions as to how we should handle purely hypothetical scenarios as my experience is that such discussions are rarely productive. > Thanks, > > Allen - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@inc

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-10 Thread Sam Ruby
[X] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: [DISCUSSION] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread Sam Ruby
s very list: http://s.apache.org/gB - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: Request to join as initial committer

2011-06-11 Thread Sam Ruby
for the new PPMC. > You might also like to get a ICLA off as well [2] > > 1: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenOfficeProposal > 2: http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt Yes, please do. And if you care to do so, cast a vote on the proposal itself. > Steve Lee > Full Measure

[VOTE][RESULT] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-13 Thread Sam Ruby
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:00 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > > Binding votes are ones that are cast by Incubator PMC members.  Quorum > is 3 binding +1 yes votes.  Once quorum is met, if more +1 votes are > received than -1, the vote carries.  Otherwise, the vote fails. Vote started on Frida

Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-13 Thread Sam Ruby
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Phillip Rhodes wrote: > On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > >> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:00 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: >> > >> > Binding votes are ones that are cast by Incubator PMC members.  Quorum >> > is 3 bi

OpenOffice.org next steps

2011-06-13 Thread Sam Ruby
I've divided up the list of proposed committers into four categories, based on their current status. --- Have IDs: damjan Damjan Jovanovic florentFlorent André grobmeier Christian Grobmeier gstein Greg Stein jimJim Jagielski lrosen Lawrence Rosen rdonkinRobert Burrell

Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-13 Thread Sam Ruby
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:39 PM, Manfred A. Reiter wrote: >> A (v)olunteer on the committer roster > > me too, if allowed Oversight on my part. One that has no bearing on the process. Next step for you is to send in an ICLA. http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt >

Re: OpenOffice.org next steps

2011-06-13 Thread Sam Ruby
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > > --- Have IDs: > > damjan     Damjan Jovanovic > florent    Florent André > grobmeier  Christian Grobmeier > gstein     Greg Stein > jim        Jim Jagielski > lrosen     Lawrence Rosen > rdonkin    Robert Bur

Re: [OpenOffice] Status page

2011-06-13 Thread Sam Ruby
ho have thought to step up, > but then declined for some reason later. +1 > I am referring to the project as "OpenOffice.org", not as > "OpenOffice". Hope thats fine too +1 > If OK, I will update the incubator stie now. +1 > Cheers - Sam Ruby ---

Re: OpenOffice.org next steps

2011-06-13 Thread Sam Ruby
s for requesting an id. - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: OpenOffice.org next steps

2011-06-13 Thread Sam Ruby
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > If I can get a few volunteer list moderators I'll go ahead > and create the mailing lists. I'll be glad to moderate. - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: OpenOffice.org next steps

2011-06-13 Thread Sam Ruby
r, and wish to subscribe to this list using an ID other than your apache.org id, please make sure that that id is listed in members.txt. I've already got two moderation requests for ids that look like they might be from ASF members, but it is much easier for me to verify this if I can match it to memb

Re: OpenOffice.org next steps

2011-06-13 Thread Sam Ruby
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Simon Brouwer wrote: > Op 13-6-2011 22:14, Daniel Shahaf schreef: >> >> Sam Ruby wrote on Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 15:48:37 -0400: >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Greg Stein  wrote: >>>> >>>> On Jun

Bluesky status and plans (was: Monthly reports missing)

2011-06-14 Thread Sam Ruby
half years ago. It is time to decide that incubation is not going to succeed for this podling? >        --- Noel - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands,

Re: Bluesky status and plans (was: Monthly reports missing)

2011-06-14 Thread Sam Ruby
he mailing list for a while now and I don't see > any progress towards what could become an Apache project eventually. All past struggles aside, if there are no credible plans to produce an ASF project after 2.5 years, then IMHO it is time to begin the process of terminating the

Re: Bluesky status and plans (was: Monthly reports missing)

2011-06-14 Thread Sam Ruby
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > Sam Ruby wrote: > >> All past struggles aside, if there are no credible plans to produce an >> ASF project after 2.5 years, then IMHO it is time to begin the process >> of terminating the incubation of this podl

Re: This list is for how not why?

2011-06-19 Thread Sam Ruby
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Re: ODF Toolkit Incubation Pre-Proposal

2011-06-27 Thread Sam Ruby
holder remove their headers; but if we can not get agreement on that we respect the license terms under which the software has been offered. > -Rob - Sam Ruby > On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: >> I support this idea. >> >> I think wit

Re: SGA for AL 2.0 licensed code base

2011-07-18 Thread Sam Ruby
k involved any other way. > Regards, > Alan - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: [PROPOSAL] ODF Toolkit for Incubation

2011-07-25 Thread Sam Ruby
ll for a vote in 72 hours (late morning EDT on Thusrday) is that enough time for discussion? - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

[VOTE] Accept ODF Toolkit for Incubation

2011-07-28 Thread Sam Ruby
[ ] +1 Accept ODF Toolkit for incubation [ ] +0 Indifferent to ODF Toolkit incubation [ ] -1 Reject ODF Toolkit for incubation This vote will close 72 hours from now. - Sam Ruby = The ODF Toolkit = == Abstract == The ODF Toolkit is a set of Java modules that allow programmatic creation, sca

[VOTE][RESULT] Accept ODF Toolkit for Incubation

2011-07-31 Thread Sam Ruby
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > > As the discussions on the ODF Toolkit threads seem to be winding down, > I would like to initiate the vote to accept the ODF Toolkit as an > Apache Incubator project. > > This vote will close 72 hours from now. Voting is n

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